On Sat, Jan 16, 2010 at 3:54 PM, Hanno Schlichting ha...@hannosch.euwrote:
Hi.
I'm not a representative of the Repoze project, so I'll just share my
personal view.
On Sat, Jan 16, 2010 at 9:23 PM, ken manheimer ken.manhei...@gmail.com
wrote:
these seem to be likely questions if you're interested in adoption of
repoze.plone by the wider plone community. please let me know if i'm
misunderstanding something basic, or if i've missed somewhere that covers
the issues...
repoze.zope2 and .plone have been written largely by Agendaless for
the KARL project. That project has gone through another iteration and
nowadays uses repoze.bfg without any Plone instead. While there are
some individual users of the repoze.plone approach, there's currently
no driving party behind it anymore.
good to know!
Now it's perfectly possible to use most of the software with
up-to-date versions of Zope2 and Plone, but this setup isn't
particular well documented or explained anywhere. The entire stack is
however production proven and there's no doubt about its quality.
At this point I see repoze.zope2 / .plone as a prototype for a full
WSGI integration into Zope2. It's likely not going to see major
adoption in its current form. It's more likely that the lessons
learned from this project will be merged back in some form into Zope2
itself, providing it with an OOTB WSGI story. If everything goes well,
I hope to see Plone have official WSGI support in the future. The
timeline for that is probably Zope 2.13 or later and Plone 5.0 with a
final release somewhere in 2011 or 2012. With such a long timeframe
there's obviously lots of unknowns.
i'm getting the impression that you have a talent for understatement. :-)
through a happy accident, a search through my inbox for repoze turned up
shane hathaway's february 2009 zope.pipeline proposal. it's very
illuminating. it definitely helps me understand more about what all the
fuss is, and more of what's going on.
In this situation it's up to every user to decide if the benefits of
the WSGI approach outweigh the costs of going with a non-standard
approach. As always you can make a difference by getting involved and
driving this project forward yourself ;-)
another masterful understatement.
now, instead of just asking whether and how to use plone under wsgi, i'm
considering whether i should be looking at switching my focus to bfg, at
least for some projects. while i'm thankful to better understand the
various projects, i'm a bit overwhelmed at the uncertainties in each
direction and division of attention necessary to keep all in sight! tres
has often referred to the ironic chinese curse, may you live in interesting
times - these are interesting times, indeed, for a web application
developer.
it's clear i'm going to have to better formulate my goals, and examine the
options with specific purposes in mind. while this all may sound like
(existential) complaining, the info is very helpful - thanks!!
Hanno
--
ken
http://myriadicity.net
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