Re: [Repoze-dev] bfg 1.3 on gae problem scanning

2010-11-03 Thread Andreas Reuleaux
OK, thanks (again).

That's what I did for now.

- Andreas


On Thu, Nov 04, 2010 at 06:40:14AM +0800, Tim Hoffman wrote:
 Hi
 
 In my experience I personally wouldn't use scan and in fact I am
 trying to use zcml as little as possible
 
 For any app to be successful on appengine it needs to start fast. zcml
 parsing is slowing than explicit
 imports.  The docs suggest scan is slow too.
 
 Also during startup you can get DeadlineExceeded errors, and if this
 happens during zcml processing your
 instance will be broken.
 
 So I would do all view setups etc explicitly and not through zcml and
 decorators.
 
 Sorry this doesn't help solve your reported problem ;-)
 
 Rgds
 
 Tim
 
 On Thu, Nov 4, 2010 at 4:59 AM, Andreas Reuleaux reule...@web.de wrote:
  I follow exactly the steps described in the bfg on appengine tutorial,
  i. e. I am
 
  * using the current gae (1.3.8)
 
  * with python2.5 as that seems the the maximum
   python version supported by appengine monkey / GAE
 
  * using the current/simple index for bfg
     bin/easy_install -i http://dist.repoze.org/bfg/current/simple/ repoze.bfg
   that is as of today bfg 1.3
 
  * having my bfgapp created from bfg_starter template
   + configuration steps as described in the turial
 
  Then I start the application
 
  $ python2.5 /opt/appengine/google_appengine/dev_appserver.py  bfgapp/app
 
  and have a look at it
 
   http://localhost:8080
 
  Everything is fine.
 
  BUT: As soon as I try to add scanning
 
  * either by adding
      scan package=. /
   to my configure.zcml
 
  * or by adding a line
     config.scan()
   somewhere between config.begin() and config.end()
   in my run.py
 
  (and restart my
   $ python2.5 /opt/appengine/google_appengine/dev_appserver.py  bfgapp/app
  ) I get
 
   Traceback (most recent call last):
   File 
  /opt/appengine/google_appengine/google/appengine/tools/dev_appserver.py, 
  line 3211, in _HandleRequest
     self._Dispatch(dispatcher, self.rfile, outfile, env_dict)
   File 
  /opt/appengine/google_appengine/google/appengine/tools/dev_appserver.py, 
  line 3154, in _Dispatch
     base_env_dict=env_dict)
   File 
  /opt/appengine/google_appengine/google/appengine/tools/dev_appserver.py, 
  line 527, in Dispatch
     base_env_dict=base_env_dict)
   File 
  /opt/appengine/google_appengine/google/appengine/tools/dev_appserver.py, 
  line 2404, in Dispatch
     self._module_dict)
   File 
  /opt/appengine/google_appengine/google/appengine/tools/dev_appserver.py, 
  line 2314, in ExecuteCGI
     reset_modules = exec_script(handler_path, cgi_path, hook)
   File 
  /opt/appengine/google_appengine/google/appengine/tools/dev_appserver.py, 
  line 2210, in ExecuteOrImportScript
     exec module_code in script_module.__dict__
   File /home/reuleaux/tmp/bfgapp/app/runner.py, line 59, in module
     application = application(*(config_args or ()), **(config_kwargs or {}))
   File /home/reuleaux/tmp/bfgapp/app/bfgapp/run.py, line 14, in app
     config.scan()
   File 
  /home/reuleaux/tmp/bfgapp/app/lib/python/repoze.bfg-1.3-py2.5.egg/repoze/bfg/configuration.py,
   line 1455, in scan
     scanner.scan(package, categories=categories)
   File 
  /home/reuleaux/tmp/bfgapp/app/lib/python/venusian-0.4-py2.5.egg/venusian/__init__.py,
   line 47, in scan
     module_type = loader.etc[2]
  TypeError: 'NoneType' object is unsubscriptable
 
 
  Something in venusian. - I don't know if this is related:
  in the initial installation step (installing repoze.bfg from
  the current/simple index with python2.5) I got already some
  problem:
 
   ...
   Searching for nose
   Reading http://pypi.python.org/simple/nose/
   Reading http://somethingaboutorange.com/mrl/projects/nose/
   Best match: nose 0.11.4
   Downloading 
  http://somethingaboutorange.com/mrl/projects/nose/nose-0.11.4.tar.gz
   Processing nose-0.11.4.tar.gz
   Running nose-0.11.4/setup.py -q bdist_egg --dist-dir 
  /tmp/easy_install-sS34JB/venusian-0.4/temp/easy_install-Psmz2u/nose-0.11.4/egg-dist-tmp-bWA16F
   no previously-included directories found matching 'doc/.build'
 
   Installed /tmp/easy_install-sS34JB/venusian-0.4/nose-0.11.4-py2.5.egg
     File 
  build/bdist.linux-i686/egg/venusian/tests/fixtures/classdecorator.py, 
  line 4
       class SuperClass(object):
           ^
   SyntaxError: invalid syntax
 
     File 
  /home/reuleaux/tmp/bfgapp/app/lib/python/venusian-0.4-py2.5.egg/venusian/tests/fixtures/classdecorator.py,
   line 4
       class SuperClass(object):
           ^
   SyntaxError: invalid syntax
 
   Adding venusian 0.4 to easy-install.pth file
 
   Installed /home/reuleaux/tmp/bfgapp/app/lib/python/venusian-0.4-py2.5.egg
   ...
 
 
  Note that I have asked this question before
   http://www.mail-archive.com/repoze-dev@lists.repoze.org/msg02671.html
  (with little help.)
 
  At the time the bfg from current/simple was still 1.2.x so I figured
  maybe for bfg this is preferred for some reason, and I continued
  to use 1.2.x, but now this is really bothering me

[Repoze-dev] problem with scan package=. / on google appengine

2010-07-10 Thread Andreas Reuleaux
If have an application that used to work just fine under
bfg+google appengine - cf. the tutorial at
  
  http://docs.repoze.org/bfg/1.3/tutorials/gae/index.html

There is a

   scan package=. /

in its configure file (which recently caused me no problems
under gae)

Now with a recent bfg (1.3a4) on gae 1.3.5 when running the dev_appserver.py
script (under py25) I get this error if I have a 
scan like above (scan package=. /) in my configuration, any idea?:

(This app runs just fine, when run under my system python,
i. e. without gae.)

By the way: is there a possibility to run bfg on gae under python2.6?
- My system python is 2.6 already, but the bottleneck seems to
be, that appengine-monkey insists on 2.5.



-Andreas



Traceback (most recent call last):
  File 
/opt/appengine/google_appengine/google/appengine/tools/dev_appserver.py, line 
3199, in _HandleRequest
self._Dispatch(dispatcher, self.rfile, outfile, env_dict)
  File 
/opt/appengine/google_appengine/google/appengine/tools/dev_appserver.py, line 
3142, in _Dispatch
base_env_dict=env_dict)
  File 
/opt/appengine/google_appengine/google/appengine/tools/dev_appserver.py, line 
524, in Dispatch
base_env_dict=base_env_dict)
  File 
/opt/appengine/google_appengine/google/appengine/tools/dev_appserver.py, line 
2401, in Dispatch
self._module_dict)
  File 
/opt/appengine/google_appengine/google/appengine/tools/dev_appserver.py, line 
2311, in ExecuteCGI
reset_modules = exec_script(handler_path, cgi_path, hook)
  File 
/opt/appengine/google_appengine/google/appengine/tools/dev_appserver.py, line 
2207, in ExecuteOrImportScript
exec module_code in script_module.__dict__
  File /home/reuleaux/work/website/gae/app/runner.py, line 63, in module
application = application(*(config_args or ()), **(config_kwargs or {}))
  File /home/reuleaux/work/website/gae/app/website/run.py, line 13, in app
config.load_zcml(zcml_file)
  File 
/home/reuleaux/work/website/gae/app/lib/python/repoze/bfg/configuration.py, 
line 519, in load_zcml
xmlconfig.file(filename, package, execute=True)
  File 
/home/reuleaux/work/website/gae/app/lib/python/zope/configuration/xmlconfig.py,
 line 653, in file
context.execute_actions()
  File 
/home/reuleaux/work/website/gae/app/lib/python/zope/configuration/config.py, 
line 606, in execute_actions
callable(*args, **kw)
  File 
/home/reuleaux/work/website/gae/app/lib/python/repoze/bfg/configuration.py, 
line 1232, in scan
scanner.scan(package, categories=categories)
  File /home/reuleaux/work/website/gae/app/lib/python/venusian/__init__.py, 
line 47, in scan
module_type = loader.etc[2]
ConfigurationExecutionError: type 'exceptions.TypeError': 'NoneType' object 
is unsubscriptable
  in:
  File /home/reuleaux/work/website/gae/app/website/configure.zcml, line 
18.2-18.22
scan package=. /

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Re: [Repoze-dev] bfg + logging

2009-10-28 Thread Andreas Reuleaux
Yes that got me running, I know have in my website.ini

  [loggers]
  keys=root

  [handlers]
  keys=hand

  [formatters]
  keys=form

  [logger_root]
  level=DEBUG
  handlers=hand

  [handler_hand]
  class=StreamHandler
  level=NOTSET
  formatter=form
  args=(sys.stdout,)
  stream=sys.stdout


  [formatter_form]
  ; format=F1 %(asctime)s %(levelname)s %(message)s
  format=%(message)s
  datefmt=

and I get some logging output in my paster.log

Very good tutorial by the way, this
  http://www.red-dove.com/python_logging.html#config

Maybe it would be good to have this in the bfg docs ?
- I mean: just a basic example to get something running 
and a link to this tutorial - no details of how to make
a more complicated configuration - or is it just me,
that didn't know of this hidden feature of PasteDeploy ?

Thanks,
  Andreas



On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 12:27:09PM -0400, Chris McDonough wrote:
 A hidden feature of PasteDeploy (the package which defines the .ini format 
 for a BFG package.ini file) is that you can just inject something in the 
 .ini 
 format found at e.g. http://www.red-dove.com/python_logging.html#config into 
 the BFG app .ini file (literally just paste it in to the BFG app .ini file) 
 and 
 PasteDeploy will configure the logging module.  Then you can use the logging 
 API to log to the loggers you've defined in the BFG config file.
 
 Andreas Reuleaux wrote:
 ...
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Re: [Repoze-dev] bfg + logging

2009-10-28 Thread Andreas Reuleaux
Yes, I can have a look (not immediately though).
Should I just provide some patches or do you
want to give me svn write access (should I sign
some contributor agreement)?

-Andreas


On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 01:29:14PM -0400, Chris McDonough wrote:
 Andreas Reuleaux wrote:
  
  Maybe it would be good to have this in the bfg docs ?
  - I mean: just a basic example to get something running 
  and a link to this tutorial - no details of how to make
  a more complicated configuration - or is it just me,
  that didn't know of this hidden feature of PasteDeploy ?
 
 Probably.  Do you think you could take a stab at changing the docs in a 
 fashion 
 that suited this problem?  (http://svn.repoze.org/repoze.bfg/trunk/docs).
 
 - C
 
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Re: [Repoze-dev] zope.schema, zope.formlib in bfg? or help a newb understand zca coolness

2009-10-03 Thread Andreas Reuleaux
You might also want to look at Malte's repoze.formapi,
see e. g. his blog entry 

   http://mockit.blogspot.com/2009/05/forms-that-dont-make-you-tense-and.html

Personally I can't comment on repoze.formapi vs. formish, as I have
used neither of them yet, but I think both should work well with bfg,
whereas z3c.form would require some porting effort.

-Andreas


On Sat, Oct 03, 2009 at 01:17:21PM -0400, Chris McDonough wrote:
 +1 to what Martin wrote, with something else that can only add to the 
 confusion:  recently I have been using Formish (http://ish.io) to do 
 autogenerated forms.  I think both zope.formlib and z3c.form try to paint 
 forms 
 based on model objects; formish doesn't even try.  It just lets you create 
 your own form schema and attempts to draw forms based on that.  This is 
 enough for my needs currently.
 
 - C
 
 
 Martin Aspeli wrote:
  Thomas G. Willis wrote:
  OK, not sure if this is a blasphemous question or not. I've been slowly 
  working through Web Component Development with Zope 3 , and instead of 
  trying out the things in zopeproject, I figured that trying out the 
  things in bfg as well may yield a greater understanding of what the heck 
  is going on. I realize that this may be incredibly dumb, so I'm not 
  surprised that I'm hitting roadblocks once in a while.
  
  Bear in mind that whilst repoze.bfg uses a number of Zope packages, it 
  is not built on top of Zope 3 (in the same way that, say, Grok is). BFG 
  contains forks/re-implementations of some Zope things, omits a large 
  number of package traditionally part of a Zope 3 bundle (this is a good 
  thing!), and solves certain things differently (e.g. the way views are 
  done in bfg is different from the way they are done in Zope).
  
  For this reason, Philipp's book will probably not apply in many cases if 
  you're using BFG, and I don't think there's any documentation or good 
  guides to *which* parts will apply and which parts won't (i.e. a bfg 
  delta zope document).
  
  That said, I can't see it being impossible to use zope.schema + a forms 
  library in repoze.bfg. Not that I've tried. ;)
  
  After reading up on zope.schema and zope.formlib, it seems that schema 
  based forms, fit my brain, and I would like to use them in bfg if 
  possible rather than tw.forms etc...
  
  This won't help with your specific question, but most people seem to be 
  ditching zope.formlib in favour of z3c.form, which is more feature 
  complete, better documented and better maintained. The basic principles 
  are still the same: you build a schema and then create a form from that 
  schema.
  
  http://docs.zope.org/z3c.form has the documentation.
  
  To use it, you need to depend on it in your own package's setup.py so 
  that it gets installed, and include its configuration via include 
  package=z3c.form / in your configure.zcml. To use the default widgets 
  (which you probably want) you also need to mark the request with the 
  IFormLayer marker interface. I'm not sure what facility repoze.bfg has 
  for that, though.
  
  Martin
  
 
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[Repoze-dev] repoze.bfg.viewgroup

2009-07-11 Thread Andreas Reuleaux
Is there any particular reason

  repoze.bfg.viewgroup

hasn't made it from the lemonade index:

  http://dist.repoze.org/lemonade/dev/simple

to the (more recent / up to date) bfg/current/simple index?:

  http://dist.repoze.org/bfg/current/simple

What is the recommended way to use repoze.bfg.viewgroup?
I am using buildout and remember in a discussion on this
list not to long a ago (bfg vs buildout), that it is not
particular fun to have two index= in one buildout.

-Andreas
 
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Re: [Repoze-dev] repoze.bfg.viewgroup

2009-07-11 Thread Andreas Reuleaux
On Sat, Jul 11, 2009 at 03:42:46PM -0400, Chris McDonough wrote:
 On 7/11/09 2:51 PM, Andreas Reuleaux wrote:
  Is there any particular reason
 
 repoze.bfg.viewgroup
 
  hasn't made it from the lemonade index:
 
 http://dist.repoze.org/lemonade/dev/simple
 
  to the (more recent / up to date) bfg/current/simple index?:
 
 http://dist.repoze.org/bfg/current/simple
 
 The current index contains only the software required to run BFG itself; it 
 contains no add-ons.

OK, I see.

 
 
  What is the recommended way to use repoze.bfg.viewgroup?
  I am using buildout and remember in a discussion on this
  list not to long a ago (bfg vs buildout), that it is not
  particular fun to have two index= in one buildout.
 
 
 Something like this should work (in your [buildout] section):
 
 find-links = http://dist.repoze.org/bfgsite/repoze.bfg.viewgroup-0.2.tar.gz
 
 Then name repoze.bfg.viewgroup as a dependency in an eggs = section of a 
 zope.recipe.egg part.
 
 - C

Yes, that worked, thanks.


-Andreas
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Re: [Repoze-dev] repoze.bfg trunk C-free

2009-05-04 Thread Andreas Reuleaux
On Sun, May 03, 2009 at 02:14:02PM -0400, Chris McDonough wrote:
 ...
 I have no plans to chase a ZPT-on-GAE ball around the yard personally.  But I 
 might go ahead and create BFG bindings for plain old Genshi (as opposed to 
 chameleon.genshi).  Plain-old-Genshi seems to be supported on GAE.. or at 
 least 
 I'd be able to verify that if http://genshi.edgewall.org/wiki/AppEngine was 
 responding at the moment.

Yes, that would be nice: I would prefer genshi over zpt/jinja2/etc.

-Andreas

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