On 20/10/2017 14:11, Malcolm Hutty wrote:
> However, when the taskforce asked NCC staff to look into this, they
> discovered (to their own surprise) that the NCC has no formal document
> of any nature that sets out a normative expectation that the RIPE NCC
> will so much as take community policy
Malcolm
On 20/10/2017 11:11, Malcolm Hutty wrote:
I don't think anyone would seriously suggest that the NCC ought to be
bound to implement absolutely anything that comes out of the RIPE
community without limitation. You are rather tilting at a straw man of
your own creation here.
Well, whereas
On 19/10/2017 12:28, ripe-list-requ...@ripe.net wrote:
> What Jim and I were both trying to say, and obviously something got lost
> in translation, is that ever since the PDP's inception the NCC has
> carried out the policies as formulated by the RIPE Community, without
> exception, even when th
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On 19/10/2017 12:21, Nigel Titley wrote:
> I'm generally against additional comp
> On 19 Oct 2017, at 09:24, Jim Reid wrote:
>
>
>> On 18 Oct 2017, at 23:53, William Sylvester
>> wrote:
>>
>> 1. Do you think the "public benefit" or "the greater good" is a core
>> aspirational factor in decisions made by the RIPE community? Alternatively,
>> are RIPE community members m
Dear Alexander
On 19/10/2017 12:10, Alexander Isavnin wrote:
Dear Nigel!
Thank you for the answers (in both capacities).
Because we are in "RIPE Accountability" thread i do not think, that such
answers are sufficient.
Yes, it's very unusual combination of Dutch nonprofit, community, some
int
On 19/10/2017 00:53, William Sylvester wrote:
> 1. Do you think the "public benefit" or "the greater good" is a core
> aspirational factor in decisions made by the RIPE community? Alternatively,
> are RIPE community members merely working/cooperating for their own benefit?
> (If the community
Dear Nigel!
Thank you for the answers (in both capacities).
Because we are in "RIPE Accountability" thread i do not think, that such
answers are sufficient.
Yes, it's very unusual combination of Dutch nonprofit, community, some
international relations, shared resources etc.
I feel you feel skep
On 19/10/2017 12:21, Nigel Titley wrote:
> I'm generally against additional complication, especially where past
> practice doesn't give cause to worry, but as I say it doesn't really
> bother me.
For what the opinion of one of the initial architects of this is worth:
Complication and over-speci
On 19/10/2017 10:27, Carsten Schiefner wrote:
Hi Nigel,
On 19.10.2017 10:36, Nigel Titley wrote:
The NCC Board does of course take account of policies, and also comments
on them as part of the evaluation process that the NCC does during
policy development. In all cases up until now we have in
Alexander Isavnin wrote:
> Dear Nigel!
>
> May i clarify some things?
>
> Did i get right, that "RIPE NCC is secretariat for community" is a
> fairy tale, told to RIPE Meetings newcomers?
Legally, the RIPE NCC is answerable only to its members. This is a
requirement under Dutch law, and there i
On 19/10/2017 10:56, Alexander Isavnin wrote:
Dear Nigel!
May i clarify some things?
Did i get right, that "RIPE NCC is secretariat for community" is a fairy tale,
told to RIPE Meetings newcomers?
No, RIPE NCC is a membership association which carries out Network
coordination activities on
Dear Nigel!
May i clarify some things?
Did i get right, that "RIPE NCC is secretariat for community" is a fairy tale,
told to RIPE Meetings newcomers?
And relations of RIPE NCC to RIPE Community are just 4 letters E I P R in the
name?
And Number Resources allocation in this region happens not
Hi Nigel,
On 19.10.2017 10:36, Nigel Titley wrote:
> The NCC Board does of course take account of policies, and also comments
> on them as part of the evaluation process that the NCC does during
> policy development. In all cases up until now we have instructed the NCC
> to follow policy. However,
On 19/10/17 09:24, Jim Reid wrote:
>
>> On 18 Oct 2017, at 23:53, William Sylvester
>> wrote:
>
>> 2. There is no explicit obligation anywhere that the RIPE NCC will adhere to
>> policies developed by the RIPE community. Strictly speaking, the RIPE NCC is
>> accountable to its membership o
> On 18 Oct 2017, at 23:53, William Sylvester
> wrote:
>
> 1. Do you think the "public benefit" or "the greater good" is a core
> aspirational factor in decisions made by the RIPE community? Alternatively,
> are RIPE community members merely working/cooperating for their own benefit?
> (If t
Dear colleagues,
Over the past year, our task force has been reviewing the structures,
documentation, and processes of RIPE to identify our accountability as an
organization. At the last RIPE meeting, we finalized our mission and scope
which we continue to work against.
We will be giving an up
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