Re: [RDD] Please fix this bug...

2017-05-17 Thread Cowboy
On Tuesday 16 May 2017 06:07:12 pm Rick Thomas wrote: > We have two alternatives, as I see it. > > 1) What we’re doing now: hold off on any updates until the attached bug is > fixed by Paravel Systems. > That's the least risky. Assuming a decent firewall, that's what I would do. ( Note: Par

Re: [RDD] Please fix this bug...

2017-05-17 Thread Fred Gleason
On May 17, 2017, at 08:25, Rob Landry <41001...@interpring.com> wrote: > There are two ways to insure you don't get put off the air by an update. You > can test each update on a duplicate Rivendell machine that is not on the air, > and only after verifying that it doesn't break Rivendell on that

Re: [RDD] Please fix this bug...

2017-05-17 Thread Fred Gleason
On May 16, 2017, at 15:10, Rick Thomas wrote: > We’ve been holding off installing the Rivendell 2.15.3-1 update, hoping to > see a fix for this bug. > > But with all the activity over the NSA zero-day exploits released a few > months ago, it’s becoming imperative that we get the security updat

Re: [RDD] Please fix this bug...

2017-05-17 Thread Cowboy
On Wednesday 17 May 2017 09:59:57 am Richard Gorbutt wrote: > Many way to mitigate potential disasters. Always protect the cash-flow (and > have fun!) In case Richard forgot to mention it, always protect the cash-flow !! On Wednesday 17 May 2017 09:57:02 am Tom Van Gorkom wrote: > So I'm curious

Re: [RDD] Please fix this bug...

2017-05-17 Thread Rob Landry
On Wed, 17 May 2017, Tom Van Gorkom wrote: So I'm curious as to whether any of you have a way to log into your airplay machines or other boxes on Riv at night or weekends from home if something isn't right?  I use TeamViewer and it has saved me lots of time when I get a call that something isn't

Re: [RDD] Please fix this bug...

2017-05-17 Thread Patrick
We have VPNs into our station from remote locations and I can bring up a VPN on my laptop if I’m traveling. From there I can use ssh with X11 forwarding or start a VNC session. Other than that, the internal network is pretty much hidden from the public internet. Running pfSense on your choice o

Re: [RDD] Please fix this bug...

2017-05-17 Thread Richard Gorbutt
Broadcaster Engineers have for years dined on stories of various OS patches breaking systems and will continue to do so. Even very high level ultra high availability broadcasters like the ones I work for etc. However we are very risk averse so no upgrades ever get applied in a production environmen

Re: [RDD] Please fix this bug...

2017-05-17 Thread Steve Varholy
-5535 Cell: (703) 585-2101 A Service of the Independent Media Foundation From: rivendell-dev-boun...@lists.rivendellaudio.org on behalf of Tom Van Gorkom Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 9:57:02 AM To: Cowboy Cc: Rivendell-Dev Subject: Re: [RDD] Please fix this

Re: [RDD] Please fix this bug...

2017-05-17 Thread Tom Van Gorkom
So I'm curious as to whether any of you have a way to log into your airplay machines or other boxes on Riv at night or weekends from home if something isn't right? I use TeamViewer and it has saved me lots of time when I get a call that something isn't sounding right or shouldn't be playing on the

Re: [RDD] Please fix this bug...

2017-05-17 Thread Cowboy
On Wednesday 17 May 2017 08:25:38 am Rob Landry wrote: > Myself, I prefer > the second approach, not fixing what isn't broken. Which I've been advocating for many, many years. Sometimes Rob and I disagree. Through his entire post, this is not one of 'em ! Some of you know that I wrote Spam-

Re: [RDD] Please fix this bug...

2017-05-17 Thread Rob Landry
Doing *any* updates on a working on-air Rivendell system introduces the possibility of putting you off the air. That's because the people working on the various packages that go into CentOS don't know about Rivendell and don't test the effect of their updates on Rivendell. Most of the time,

Re: [RDD] Please fix this bug...

2017-05-16 Thread Rick Thomas
Thanks, Lorne and Steve. I’ll keep your advice in mind the next time we re-organize our studio network. This re-org may actually happen sometime in the next couple of years as we are planning a move to new quarters. So it’s actually a good thing you pointed that out now. Enjoy! Rick On May

Re: [RDD] Please fix this bug...

2017-05-16 Thread Lorne Tyndale
Rick, I'm a little surprised here - I don't know why you would put a playback machine on a network connection that has direct access to the internet. For best security practices it should be on a private network without internet access. Even though Linux is much more secure then other OSes, what

Re: [RDD] Please fix this bug...

2017-05-16 Thread Steve Varholy
: [RDD] Please fix this bug... That’s essentially option 2 by another name. It has the same problems. If doing it breaks something in Rivendell, we’re off the air. Perhaps one of the support folks can tell us which of the 4 update packages from the Paravel repo it’s safe to uncheck? Thanks

Re: [RDD] Please fix this bug...

2017-05-16 Thread Rick Thomas
That’s essentially option 2 by another name. It has the same problems. If doing it breaks something in Rivendell, we’re off the air. Perhaps one of the support folks can tell us which of the 4 update packages from the Paravel repo it’s safe to uncheck? Thanks! Rick > On May 16, 2017, at 3:11

Re: [RDD] Please fix this bug...

2017-05-16 Thread Steve Varholy
IIRC you can choose not to apply certain updates by unchecking them in the Software Update dialog window. Sent from my iPhone > On May 16, 2017, at 6:07 PM, Rick Thomas wrote: > > We are using the CentOS-6 that is part of the Rivendell Broadcast Appliance > system from Paravel Systems. We ha

Re: [RDD] Please fix this bug...

2017-05-16 Thread Rick Thomas
We are using the CentOS-6 that is part of the Rivendell Broadcast Appliance system from Paravel Systems. We have a paid-up support contract. It’s really great, and we love it a lot! Thanks for all the wonderful features! Now the problem: The Rivendell 2.15.3-1 update appears along with more

Re: [RDD] Please fix this bug...

2017-05-16 Thread Cowboy
On Tuesday 16 May 2017 03:10:46 pm Rick Thomas wrote: > We’ve been holding off installing the Rivendell 2.15.3-1 update, hoping to > see a fix for this bug. > > But with all the activity over the NSA zero-day exploits released a few > months ago, it’s becoming imperative that we get the security

Re: [RDD] Please fix this bug...

2017-05-16 Thread Scott Spillers
Rick, We do not have any influence over development of the CentOS Linux distribution, only the Rivendell code. What version of CentOS are you using? CentOS 5 has reached end of life and is no longer updated. You may want to consider updating to CentOS 7 if your version of the distro is no longer

[RDD] Please fix this bug...

2017-05-16 Thread Rick Thomas
Dear Rivendell developers, We’ve been holding off installing the Rivendell 2.15.3-1 update, hoping to see a fix for this bug. But with all the activity over the NSA zero-day exploits released a few months ago, it’s becoming imperative that we get the security updates from CentOS that this is b