Re: [rkward-devel] [rkward-cvs] SF.net SVN: rkward-code:[4897] trunk/rkward/packages/rkwarddev

2014-10-16 Thread Thomas Friedrichsmeier
Hi,

On Thursday 16 October 2014 20:40:56 meik michalke wrote:
> speaking of non-trivial... can you hint me to to some documentation of how
> to get all columns out of one row of the optionset? i find it hard to
> understand from the existing examples, but i get the idea it has to to with
> "for" loops.

yes. The storage inside the optionset is column-based (which is rather 
unavoidable, technically). So the typical pattern in js is:

col_a = getList ("set.col_a");
col_b = getList ("set.col_b");
col_c = getList ("set.col_c");

for (var i = 0; i < col_a.length; ++i) {
echo ("coolfun (", col_a[i] + ", " + col_b[i] + "," + col_c[i] + ")\n");
}

> i would like to implement some kind of prototypic helper function in
> rkwarddev. unless it turns out to be impossible ;-)

Well, it should be quite possible to create a JS function that converts from 
column-based to row-based representation, given a list of column-names of 
interested (which may of not be all columns in the set!). I'll leave that as 
an exercise to the reader ;-).

Regards
Thomas

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Re: [rkward-devel] [rkward-cvs] SF.net SVN: rkward-code:[4897] trunk/rkward/packages/rkwarddev

2014-10-16 Thread meik michalke
Am Montag, 13. Oktober 2014, 09:18:57 schrieb Thomas Friedrichsmeier:
> not sure, what the part about the optionset refers to. If you want me to
> take  a look, somewhere, let me know (it _is_ a rather non-trivial
> control...).

speaking of non-trivial... can you hint me to to some documentation of how to 
get all columns out of one row of the optionset? i find it hard to understand 
from the existing examples, but i get the idea it has to to with "for" loops.

i would like to implement some kind of prototypic helper function in 
rkwarddev. unless it turns out to be impossible ;-)


viele grüße :: m.eik

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Re: [rkward-devel] [rkward-cvs] SF.net SVN: rkward-code:[4897] trunk/rkward/packages/rkwarddev

2014-10-13 Thread Thomas Friedrichsmeier
Hi!

On Monday 13 October 2014 10:30:04 meik michalke wrote:
> > Anyway, I looked at the skeleton dialog. The optionset there seemed to do
> > exactly what it is meant to do.
> 
> ahhh, ok, now i get it... you have to *first* add an item and *then* write
> the text. intuitively, i always tried the other way around. i thought it
> didn't work becuase i never saw any items appear. can this be made clearer
> somehow?

Hm, dunno. Making it possible to label the "+"-Button "add dependency"/"create 
dependency"?

I had thought about designing the optionset the other way around, too, i.e. 
you'd first write the text, then add it. However, for elements like radio 
buttons, checkboxes, etc. it would be rather non-obvious, whether the current 
settings are already "committed". Thus the policy: If it's enabled, it is 
active. (Also when going back and changing settings in an existing row of the 
set: you don't have to "commit" these).

Now, s with a _minimum_ requirement of one row already start out 
with one row. But for sets that can be empty, we're hitting the same problems, 
again.

Further ideas?

--

Just for completeness: Yet another option in this particular use-case would be 
combining a text  with the new .

Regards
Thomas

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Re: [rkward-devel] [rkward-cvs] SF.net SVN: rkward-code:[4897] trunk/rkward/packages/rkwarddev

2014-10-13 Thread meik michalke
morning,

Am Montag, 13. Oktober 2014, 09:18:57 schrieb Thomas Friedrichsmeier:
> > rkwarddev: enhanced the R code shown by the skeleton dialog to be a better
> > start for your own rkwarddev scripts (optionset still refuses to work,
> > btw...)
> 
> not sure, what the part about the optionset refers to.

you looked in the right place.

> Anyway, I looked at the skeleton dialog. The optionset there seemed to do 
> exactly what it is meant to do.

ahhh, ok, now i get it... you have to *first* add an item and *then* write the 
text. intuitively, i always tried the other way around. i thought it didn't 
work becuase i never saw any items appear. can this be made clearer somehow?

> However, for a very simple input like this,
> a  more elegant alternative may be a  allow_user_resize_rows="true" allow_user_resize_columns="false">.

ok, will try it when i get to it.


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Re: [rkward-devel] [rkward-cvs] SF.net SVN: rkward-code:[4897] trunk/rkward/packages/rkwarddev

2014-10-13 Thread Thomas Friedrichsmeier
Hi Meik,

On Sunday 12 October 2014 19:37:20 m-...@users.sf.net wrote:
> rkwarddev: enhanced the R code shown by the skeleton dialog to be a better
> start for your own rkwarddev scripts (optionset still refuses to work,
> btw...)

not sure, what the part about the optionset refers to. If you want me to take 
a look, somewhere, let me know (it _is_ a rather non-trivial control...).

Anyway, I looked at the skeleton dialog. The optionset there seemed to do 
exactly what it is meant to do. However, for a very simple input like this, a 
more elegant alternative may be a .

Regards
Thomas

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