[Citadel Development] Re: Choosing the right framework

2017-02-23 Thread bennabiy
I tried it out, and while it looks like certain aspects are working quite well, there are some issues with rooms loading when logged in vs not logged in through Firefox and Opera. I have not looked at the backend implementation yet. > Thu Feb 23 2017 09:49:05 AM EST from IGnatius T Foobar @

[Citadel Development] Re: Choosing the right framework

2017-02-23 Thread IGnatius T Foobar
So far it's working pretty well. I used the guide at http://youmightnotneedjquery.com/ to figure out how to do things without jQuery. Now maybe I've done something horrible, because I've only tested so far on Chrome, but we'll see. The inspiration was of course the fact that W3CSS doesn't u

[Citadel Development] Re: Choosing the right framework

2017-02-21 Thread bennabiy
That is great. I think these days people are way too dependent on jQuery and the like when often times it can be done easier. > Mon Feb 20 2017 09:11:30 PM EST from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored >Subject: Re: Choosing the right framework > > >Update on that: > >I did it. No more jQuery.

[Citadel Development] Re: Choosing the right framework

2017-02-21 Thread IGnatius T Foobar
Hey the_mgt , check out the current code in the webcit-ng branch ... I have *roughly* fit in one of the W3CSS templates. Looks promising but it needs some tweaking (which you can probably do better than I can).

[Citadel Development] Re: Choosing the right framework

2017-02-20 Thread IGnatius T Foobar
Update on that: I did it. No more jQuery. There wasn't a thing in there that couldn't be done a lot easier by simply making calls to getElementById() and XMLHttpRequest() directly.

[Citadel Development] Re: Choosing the right framework

2017-02-17 Thread IGnatius T Foobar
I also noticed that the w3css framework is "pure CSS no javascript". Well not quite, the framework is defined in 100% pure CSS but you still need to use javascript, for example, to invoke and hide a modal. But the interesting thing is that, unlike pretty much every other framework out there,

[Citadel Development] Re: Choosing the right framework

2017-02-14 Thread IGnatius T Foobar
>Also, What do you think about multiple auth? Internal (able to be disabled, >but always on by default) plus optionally host based,and optionally LDAP (or >AD, not both). If the user database / mail table was able to parse a list of You know what, we actually used to do that. Mixed-mo

[Citadel Development] Re: Choosing the right framework

2017-02-13 Thread bennabiy
Bah, I hate when I make a typo... Compiled successfully     > Mon Feb 13 2017 15:08:35 EST from bennabiy @ Uncensored Subject: Re: >Choosing the right framework > > > >All fine and wonderful... I guess libraries help ;) >> >> >>/citadel/webcit# make >> >>gcc -c -ggdb http.c -o h

[Citadel Development] Re: Choosing the right framework

2017-02-13 Thread bennabiy
All fine and wonderful... I guess libraries help ;) > > >/citadel/webcit# make > >gcc -c -ggdb http.c -o http.o > >In file included from http.c:15:0: > >webcit.h:34:24: fatal error: libcitadel.h: No such file or directory > > #include > >                        ^ > >compilation ter

[Citadel Development] Re: Choosing the right framework

2017-02-13 Thread bennabiy
Great. I will check it out. What is the current state of ctdlsh? I am considering the administration abstraction from the UI. If the API docs for citserver and webcit could be reworked to reflect the current state, we might be able to get a working Admin console for both. I am thinking of webmin an

[Citadel Development] Re: Choosing the right framework

2017-02-13 Thread IGnatius T Foobar
>If I wanted to fire up webcit-ng, is it in the place where I would be able to >compile and test it out? If so, and since you removed the automake stuff, >what is the recommended method for compiling now? Very easy. :) 1. git checkout webcit-ng 2. cd webcit 3. make 4. ./w

[Citadel Development] Re: Choosing the right framework

2017-02-13 Thread bennabiy
If I wanted to fire up webcit-ng, is it in the place where I would be able to compile and test it out? If so, and since you removed the automake stuff, what is the recommended method for compiling now? > Mon Feb 13 2017 10:16:43 EST from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored Subject: >Re: Choosing the

[Citadel Development] Re: Choosing the right framework

2017-02-13 Thread IGnatius T Foobar
  Point 1. is fulfilled by almost all frameworks. Point 2. by almost none, at least not in the basic use case scenario. Wether point 3. is fulfilled by any of the larger frameworks, I do not know. We need to apply the KISS principle here, Citadel in general is about small footprints on the resou

[Citadel Development] Re: Choosing the right framework

2017-02-13 Thread the_mgt
  Sun Feb 12 2017 18:07:32 ESTfrom IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored Subject: Re: Choosing the right framework I understand IG's wish to choose something wide spread and well supported, so that it stays with us and our slow web-technique adaption cycle. But we also need something that both progr

[Citadel Development] Re: Choosing the right framework

2017-02-12 Thread IGnatius T Foobar
I understand IG's wish to choose something wide spread and well supported, so that it stays with us and our slow web-technique adaption cycle. But we also need something that both programmers and web designers (or rather the guy that patches the html together) can understand fast. That is why I

[Citadel Development] Re: Choosing the right framework

2017-02-12 Thread bennabiy
That looks nice and simple. I agree, XHTML is not fun to work with.  > Sun Feb 12 2017 11:16:44 EST from the_mgt @ Uncensored Subject: Choosing >the right framework > > > >So I was in the mood for some webdesign this weekend and searched again for >the proper tool to use. > >I already had