Re: [ros-dev] no replies about making reactos accessible for the blind

2018-11-14 Thread M. Ziggyesque
The console itself is still a graphical user mode app; it or a DOS box simply uses a DefConsoleProc (sic) instead of DefWindowProc behind the scenes to manage the GUI aspects and system menu, and may use an OEM code page instead of an ANSI one in full screen mode. Windows may eventually be able

[ros-dev] no replies about making reactos accessible for the blind

2018-11-14 Thread Dick
Hi, I did not receive anny replies about my question to make reactos accessible for the blind. I would really suggest to do that while building the os, instead of doign it when the whole system is fully built. ___ Ros-dev mailing list

Re: [ros-dev] Mail server downtime tomorrow

2018-11-14 Thread Colin Finck
Everything went well and all mail services are back up again! The entire downtime has been around 10 minutes. Colin Am 13.11.2018 um 10:51 schrieb Colin Finck: > Hi all! > > Our mail server will be shut down for migration > >TOMORROW, WEDNESDAY, NOVEMBER 14, AROUND 9:00 UTC > > This will

Re: [ros-dev] no replies about making reactos accessible for the blind

2018-11-14 Thread M. Ziggyesque
I'm not saying it isn't possible to support the hardware, just I have not seen any pre-boot environment that the installer might need to communicate with attempt to provide this support, so it is also available to whatever gets installed, after reboot. The installer may be fine using only 6-dot

Re: [ros-dev] no replies about making reactos accessible for the blind

2018-11-14 Thread Erkin Alp Güney
You unset the lower line of a 8-bit matrix and you get 6-bit display. This is simple bit masking and will not require complex driver operations. 15.11.2018 09:59 tarihinde M. Ziggyesque yazdı: > I'm not saying it isn't possible to support the hardware, just I have > not seen any pre-boot

Re: [ros-dev] no replies about making reactos accessible for the blind

2018-11-14 Thread Erkin Alp Güney
Braille will not be output by GPU, it will be output by CPU onto either USB or serial Braille bumper. Two different output channels may use two different codepages. If they were somewhat dependent as in multi-monitor situation, you would need to drive both via GPU. However they are independent

Re: [ros-dev] no replies about making reactos accessible for the blind

2018-11-14 Thread Magnus Johnsson
Jumping in here with a quick reply as a *lurker*, not a developer: Don't think anyone would mind if you supplied patches :). You have to understand, with people still working on kernel things, making applications actually work, stop crashing, hardware support... Most that would interface with

Re: [ros-dev] no replies about making reactos accessible for the blind

2018-11-14 Thread Erkin Alp Güney
The installer itself needs to be accessible enough. WINE does not use a Windows style installer by itself. 14.11.2018 17:51 tarihinde Magnus Johnsson yazdı: > Jumping in here with a quick reply as a *lurker*, not a developer: > > Don't think anyone would mind if you supplied patches :). You have

Re: [ros-dev] no replies about making reactos accessible for the blind

2018-11-14 Thread Dick
Hi magnus, unfortunately this is not how screenreaders work. screenreaders rely on accessibility libraries built into the operating system. running a windows screenreader in linux will not work, you need to use orc(the linux screenreader). fortunately some realy helpfull packages are already

Re: [ros-dev] no replies about making reactos accessible for the blind

2018-11-14 Thread Erkin Alp Güney
> the main problem of screenreaders is they have to find out what > developers had done to make an app accessible. for example, when a > screenreader give access to firefox version 40 that same version will > probably run into problems when running version 60, the screen reader > needs to be

Re: [ros-dev] no replies about making reactos accessible for the blind

2018-11-14 Thread Dick
of course, you are right. but like in linux, much software can be ran headless without graphics. On Wed, 14 Nov 2018, Erkin Alp Güney wrote: the main problem of screenreaders is they have to find out what developers had done to make an app accessible. for example, when a screenreader give

Re: [ros-dev] no replies about making reactos accessible for the blind

2018-11-14 Thread Javier Agustìn Fernàndez Arroyo
This is not Linux, Windows software can NOT run with no graphics ;) El mié., 14 nov. 2018 17:36, Dick escribió: > of course, you are right. but like in linux, much software can be ran > headless without graphics. > > On Wed, 14 Nov 2018, Erkin Alp Güney wrote: > > >> the main problem of

Re: [ros-dev] no replies about making reactos accessible for the blind

2018-11-14 Thread Erkin Alp Güney
You can if you implement a Win32 to console translator. Nothing is impossible. 14.11.2018 20:13 tarihinde Javier Agustìn Fernàndez Arroyo yazdı: > This is not Linux, Windows software can NOT run with no graphics ;) > ___ Ros-dev mailing list

Re: [ros-dev] no replies about making reactos accessible for the blind

2018-11-14 Thread Magnus Johnsson
Interesting! So I was *completely* wrong ;). How would *you* go about making the installer accessible? Den ons 14 nov. 2018 kl 19:10 skrev Erkin Alp Güney : > WINE's accessibility stuff is handled by underlying desktop's UI kit, > not by WINE itself. > > 14.11.2018 17:51 tarihinde Magnus

Re: [ros-dev] no replies about making reactos accessible for the blind

2018-11-14 Thread Dick
why not? i am not a programmer myself, but maybe there is a workaround(emulating graphics mode but not displaying them for example), maybe things that are not possible in microsoft windows can be made possible in the windows-environment reactos creates On Wed, 14 Nov 2018, Javier Agustìn

Re: [ros-dev] no replies about making reactos accessible for the blind

2018-11-14 Thread Erkin Alp Güney
WINE's accessibility stuff is handled by underlying desktop's UI kit, not by WINE itself. 14.11.2018 17:51 tarihinde Magnus Johnsson yazdı: > Jumping in here with a quick reply as a *lurker*, not a developer: > > Don't think anyone would mind if you supplied patches :). You have to > understand,