Re: [ros-dev] Status Meeting (November 2018)
While there's a discussion of 0.5 release plan, here are some candidate topics: * MM/CC work, to reduce BSoDs and enable further development * PNP work. vgal has done some work on both HAL and PNP to fix device issues. Also many Windows Server 2003 drivers are usable now. Progressing this and finally integrating into ReactOS is essential at some point. * Driver issues * System corruption after hard resets or BSoDs * Further Win32 work to get many programs usable (I can extensively test Word 2003 if there's help!) * Getting rid of old fastfat (and progressing NTFS further?) * Robust networking (adding WPA support, fixing bugs...) * Installer support for old programs and WoW16 (there's two resources: Win3mu is now open-source and otya128's winevdm) * Further DirectX work (or just syncs from Wine) and some video work to get more games playable? * Sound? * And other things you add or I forgot. Best regards, Can ___ Ros-dev mailing list Ros-dev@reactos.org http://reactos.org/mailman/listinfo/ros-dev
Re: [ros-dev] Status Meeting (November 2018)
Mails have been sent and IRC server started. Please check your inboxes and join! See you at 19:00 UTC Colin Am 24.11.2018 um 21:37 schrieb Colin Finck: > Hi all! > > Let me invite you to the November 2018 meeting, taking place next > Thursday, November 29, 2018 at 19:00 UTC. > Invited members will again receive their credentials shortly before the > meeting. > > This will be the first meeting since August and I hope we get some more > topics than just the obligatory Status Reports. Please send your > proposals by replying to this mail. > > > Best regards, > > Colin > > > ___ > Ros-dev mailing list > Ros-dev@reactos.org > http://reactos.org/mailman/listinfo/ros-dev > signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Ros-dev mailing list Ros-dev@reactos.org http://reactos.org/mailman/listinfo/ros-dev
Re: [ros-dev] Status Meeting (November 2018)
> >I don't think anybody has already prepared a detailed plan, so we >should collect our ideas and expectations for a 0.5 release and >write them down at https://reactos.org/wiki/0.5_Planning There is already page for 0.5 - https://reactos.org/wiki/0.5.0 On Thu, Nov 29, 2018 at 12:28 PM Colin Finck wrote: > Am 24.11.2018 um 21:37 schrieb Colin Finck: > > This will be the first meeting since August and I hope we get some more > > topics than just the obligatory Status Reports. Please send your > > proposals by replying to this mail. > > The current agenda is as follows: > > 1. Status Reports since August (everyone) >== >Please prepare your Status Reports now, so we get this done quickly. > > 2. Web and Infrastructure Projects (Victor P. and Colin) >= >In particular: > - Updated developer web interface (Victor P.) > - AppDB similar to Wine's (Victor P. and Colin) > - BuildBot (Victor P. and Colin) > - New website (Colin) > - Mattermost (Colin) > - Nextcloud (Colin) > > 3. Jira tickets workflow (Victor P.) >= > > 4. ReactOS 0.5 Planning (everyone) >=== > - From a user perspective (i.e. what shall work?) > - From a technical perspective (i.e. who needs to implement what >components?) > >I don't think anybody has already prepared a detailed plan, so we >should collect our ideas and expectations for a 0.5 release and >write them down at https://reactos.org/wiki/0.5_Planning >Let's also try to define responsible persons and timeframes for each >task, otherwise a plan is useless. > > 5. ReactOS Deutschland e.V. Update and ReactOS Hackfest(s) 2019 (Colin) > >Will just give a quick update on the German foundation as we will >have a General Assembly in 2 weeks and reelect all Board members. >Also a quick survey if it makes sense to have 2 Hackfests each year >and your preferred dates for that. > > 6. All-in-one ISOs combining Live-CD and GUI Installer (Hermes) > >Will only be discussed if Hermes is present. > > 7. Miscellaneous (everyone) > >If you disagree with me excluding a topic from the agenda, we can >discuss it here. > > > In my opinion, "Selecting a new coordinator" makes no sense as long as > nobody announces to spend significantly more time on ReactOS and comes > up with a clear vision for the project, just like an election program. > Otherwise, a new coordinator cannot really make a difference and we can > just leave the situation as is. > "USB / Storage" was merged with 0.5 Planning. > "Wine Syncs" will or will not be a topic depending on the presence of > Amine Khaldi. We can probably discuss it shortly as part of his Status > Report. > > This may look like a tough schedule, however as many points depend on > me, I'll do my best to prepare my statements and get this done quickly. > All of you, please do the same. This should hopefully give us enough > time for 0.5 Planning. > > > See you this evening! > > Colin > > ___ > Ros-dev mailing list > Ros-dev@reactos.org > http://reactos.org/mailman/listinfo/ros-dev ___ Ros-dev mailing list Ros-dev@reactos.org http://reactos.org/mailman/listinfo/ros-dev
Re: [ros-dev] Status Meeting (November 2018)
Am 29.11.2018 um 11:05 schrieb Javier Agustìn Fernàndez Arroyo: > let me add a last topic: website translations > > Old website could be translated, current one can not. And i think its > good for the final user to see the webpage in his/her own language... I agree and this is one of the reasons why we chose Hugo for the new website. While there is no reason to translate technical developer content on the Wiki, the website is geared towards the end-user and should be available in multiple languages to account for our international community. I don't think we need to put this on the agenda of today's meeting, but I can reaffirm this during my report about the new website. - Colin signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Ros-dev mailing list Ros-dev@reactos.org http://reactos.org/mailman/listinfo/ros-dev
Re: [ros-dev] Status Meeting (November 2018)
let me add a last topic: website translations Old website could be translated, current one can not. And i think its good for the final user to see the webpage in his/her own language... On Thu, Nov 29, 2018 at 10:40 AM Colin Finck wrote: > Am 29.11.2018 um 10:28 schrieb Colin Finck: > > 2. Web and Infrastructure Projects (Victor P. and Colin) > >= > > Addendum to these: > > - Community.ReactOS.org (Colin) > - Doxygen (Colin) > > ___ > Ros-dev mailing list > Ros-dev@reactos.org > http://reactos.org/mailman/listinfo/ros-dev ___ Ros-dev mailing list Ros-dev@reactos.org http://reactos.org/mailman/listinfo/ros-dev
Re: [ros-dev] Status Meeting (November 2018)
Am 29.11.2018 um 10:28 schrieb Colin Finck: > 2. Web and Infrastructure Projects (Victor P. and Colin) >= Addendum to these: - Community.ReactOS.org (Colin) - Doxygen (Colin) signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Ros-dev mailing list Ros-dev@reactos.org http://reactos.org/mailman/listinfo/ros-dev
Re: [ros-dev] Status Meeting (November 2018)
Am 24.11.2018 um 21:37 schrieb Colin Finck: > This will be the first meeting since August and I hope we get some more > topics than just the obligatory Status Reports. Please send your > proposals by replying to this mail. The current agenda is as follows: 1. Status Reports since August (everyone) == Please prepare your Status Reports now, so we get this done quickly. 2. Web and Infrastructure Projects (Victor P. and Colin) = In particular: - Updated developer web interface (Victor P.) - AppDB similar to Wine's (Victor P. and Colin) - BuildBot (Victor P. and Colin) - New website (Colin) - Mattermost (Colin) - Nextcloud (Colin) 3. Jira tickets workflow (Victor P.) = 4. ReactOS 0.5 Planning (everyone) === - From a user perspective (i.e. what shall work?) - From a technical perspective (i.e. who needs to implement what components?) I don't think anybody has already prepared a detailed plan, so we should collect our ideas and expectations for a 0.5 release and write them down at https://reactos.org/wiki/0.5_Planning Let's also try to define responsible persons and timeframes for each task, otherwise a plan is useless. 5. ReactOS Deutschland e.V. Update and ReactOS Hackfest(s) 2019 (Colin) Will just give a quick update on the German foundation as we will have a General Assembly in 2 weeks and reelect all Board members. Also a quick survey if it makes sense to have 2 Hackfests each year and your preferred dates for that. 6. All-in-one ISOs combining Live-CD and GUI Installer (Hermes) Will only be discussed if Hermes is present. 7. Miscellaneous (everyone) If you disagree with me excluding a topic from the agenda, we can discuss it here. In my opinion, "Selecting a new coordinator" makes no sense as long as nobody announces to spend significantly more time on ReactOS and comes up with a clear vision for the project, just like an election program. Otherwise, a new coordinator cannot really make a difference and we can just leave the situation as is. "USB / Storage" was merged with 0.5 Planning. "Wine Syncs" will or will not be a topic depending on the presence of Amine Khaldi. We can probably discuss it shortly as part of his Status Report. This may look like a tough schedule, however as many points depend on me, I'll do my best to prepare my statements and get this done quickly. All of you, please do the same. This should hopefully give us enough time for 0.5 Planning. See you this evening! Colin signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Ros-dev mailing list Ros-dev@reactos.org http://reactos.org/mailman/listinfo/ros-dev
Re: [ros-dev] Status Meeting (November 2018)
On 24/11/2018 21:37, Colin Finck wrote: I hope we get some more topics Wine Syncs not happening: in the backlog or not at all. -- ___ Ros-dev mailing list Ros-dev@reactos.org http://reactos.org/mailman/listinfo/ros-dev
Re: [ros-dev] Status Meeting (November 2018)
On 29/11/2018 00:35, Thomas Mueller wrote: > My hard drives are all partitioned GPT, and lack of support for USB and GPT has kept me away from doing anything regarding ReactOS. Where would I put it? Meantime solution: in a virtual machine. -- ___ Ros-dev mailing list Ros-dev@reactos.org http://reactos.org/mailman/listinfo/ros-dev
Re: [ros-dev] Status Meeting (November 2018)
Hi all! I'd like to propose some discuss points too. 1. Web projects roadmap I think we should write down some kind of roadmap about what we need/want about web services surrounding ReactOS. This can attract people which are not into systems programming by more than just doing translations and issue reporting. (But only if written down in wiki, for example) This can also be converted into list of GSoC ideas in future. There are two things we need so far: - (higher priority) Updated developer web interface. This is described quite well on GSoC 2018 ideas page ( https://reactos.org/wiki/Google_Summer_of_Code_2018_Ideas#Website) but still can be improved though :) - (lower priority) AppDB similar to Wine's. This can potentially lower our effort on maintaining Jira tickets. There is already one such thing from our community: https://github.com/ROS-AppDB/ReactOS-AppDB Maybe we should think about supporting it officially Feel free to add this list! 2. Jira tickets workflow. It looks like don't follow our own convention regarding issues workflow in Jira. According to scheme every new ticked is created with UNTRIAGED status and supposed to be moved to OPEN or RESOLVED state by someone from Devs. But nobody does it for a while and there is no easy way to distinguish "accepted" tickets from others. I think we should return back to following this scheme or create a new one if this is not convenient. Cheers, Victor Perevertkin сб, 24 нояб. 2018 г., 23:38 Colin Finck co...@reactos.org: > Hi all! > > Let me invite you to the November 2018 meeting, taking place next > Thursday, November 29, 2018 at 19:00 UTC. > Invited members will again receive their credentials shortly before the > meeting. > > This will be the first meeting since August and I hope we get some more > topics than just the obligatory Status Reports. Please send your > proposals by replying to this mail. > > > Best regards, > > Colin > > ___ > Ros-dev mailing list > Ros-dev@reactos.org > http://reactos.org/mailman/listinfo/ros-dev ___ Ros-dev mailing list Ros-dev@reactos.org http://reactos.org/mailman/listinfo/ros-dev
Re: [ros-dev] Status Meeting (November 2018)
> Usually when we talk about ReactOS 0.5, we implicitly think that it will > enter beta state there. > So unless you consider this to not completely hold anymore, we can look at > what remains to be done/fixed (importantly) so that we may qualify as going > into beta state. > (And yes, USB and storage sound strongly as prerequisites for 0.5 in my > opinion). > > Best, > Hermes I strongly agree that USB support, being able to install to and boot from USB, is critically important. Support for GPT would also be highly desirable. Linux, FreeBSD, NetBSD, and Haiku can all be installed and run from USB, and all of these OSes support GPT. My hard drives are all partitioned GPT, and lack of support for USB and GPT has kept me away from doing anything regarding ReactOS. Where would I put it? Tom ___ Ros-dev mailing list Ros-dev@reactos.org http://reactos.org/mailman/listinfo/ros-dev
Re: [ros-dev] Status Meeting (November 2018)
It is common use to start beta from 0.5 because it is half way up to 1.0. bringing 0.5 as alpha willl cause much disappointment and is confusing for users. I think an interesting point to talk about would be a roadmap. when can average users start to use reactos as their daily os? Is reactos able to become usable as windows-alternative before windows is gone and forgotten? On Wed, 28 Nov 2018, David Quintana (gigaherz) wrote: I agree on "beta" being more like 80-90% implementation coverage, however given the 80/20 rule applied to development, that says that < 20% of the bugs cause >80% of the bug reports (I'd guess this will be 5% of the bugs causing 95% of the reports, if not even more), so one could argue that having a codebase 80% complete, is still only 50% of the work, because the other 50% will be a whole lot of polishing. On Wed, 28 Nov 2018 at 18:03, Ged Murphy wrote: The link between 0.5 and beta was an old statement we used to have on our website, I’m not sure why that relationship existed other than a splitting an integer in half and assigning 0.5 to each stage. I’m more of the opinion that beta products are close to release, so 0.8+ would be more suitable. Anyway, it’s a conversation to be had internally. Ged. From: Ros-dev On Behalf Of hermes.belu...@sfr.fr Sent: Wednesday, 28 November 2018 16:51 To: ReactOS Development List Subject: Re: [ros-dev] Status Meeting (November 2018) Hi! Usually when we talk about ReactOS 0.5, we implicitly think that it will enter beta state there. So unless you consider this to not completely hold anymore, we can look at what remains to be done/fixed (importantly) so that we may qualify as going into beta state. (And yes, USB and storage sound strongly as prerequisites for 0.5 in my opinion). Best, Hermes De : "Ged Murphy" A : "'ReactOS Development List'" Envoyé: mercredi 28 novembre 2018 17:42 Objet : Re: [ros-dev] Status Meeting (November 2018) Some potential talking points: o Selecting a new coordinator o Version bump to 0.5 o USB / Storage (perhaps linked to a 0.5 release) o Mattermost o New website progress From: Ros-dev On Behalf Of Mark Jansen Sent: Wednesday, 28 November 2018 16:13 To: ReactOS Development List Subject: Re: [ros-dev] Status Meeting (November 2018) We can discuss this if you are present, but I don't see the value in discussing it without you. We have seen before that something discussed without the initiator being present is time not well spent, since it is a bit hard to argue with only one side of the argument present Op 26 nov. 2018 12:15 schreef hermes.belu...@sfr.fr: Hello, I may not be available as it's the day when I'm going somewhere for a conference; it just depends at which time I arrive at destination. For the meeting we may talk about the best way we can move to delivering all-in-one ReactOS ISOs (containing livecd + installation in both text and GUI modes), and which changes this could imply for our infrastructure (buildbots/website...). Best regards, Hermes De : "Javier Agustìn Fernàndez Arroyo" A : "ReactOS Development List" Envoyé: samedi 24 novembre 2018 22:06 Objet : Re: [ros-dev] Status Meeting (November 2018) I'm at work but I will do my best to attend! El sáb., 24 nov. 2018 21:38, Colin Finck escribió: Hi all! Let me invite you to the November 2018 meeting, taking place next Thursday, November 29, 2018 at 19:00 UTC. Invited members will again receive their credentials shortly before the meeting. This will be the first meeting since August and I hope we get some more topics than just the obligatory Status Reports. Please send your proposals by replying to this mail. Best regards, Colin ___ Ros-dev mailing list Ros-dev@reactos.org http://reactos.org/mailman/listinfo/ros-dev ___ Ros-dev mailing list Ros-dev@reactos.org http://reactos.org/mailman/listinfo/ros-dev ___ Ros-dev mailing list Ros-dev@reactos.org http://reactos.org/mailman/listinfo/ros-dev ___ Ros-dev mailing list Ros-dev@reactos.org http://reactos.org/mailman/listinfo/ros-dev ___ Ros-dev mailing list Ros-dev@reactos.org http://reactos.org/mailman/listinfo/ros-dev
Re: [ros-dev] Status Meeting (November 2018)
I agree on "beta" being more like 80-90% implementation coverage, however given the 80/20 rule applied to development, that says that < 20% of the bugs cause >80% of the bug reports (I'd guess this will be 5% of the bugs causing 95% of the reports, if not even more), so one could argue that having a codebase 80% complete, is still only 50% of the work, because the other 50% will be a whole lot of polishing. On Wed, 28 Nov 2018 at 18:03, Ged Murphy wrote: > The link between 0.5 and beta was an old statement we used to have on our > website, I’m not sure why that relationship existed other than a splitting > an integer in half and assigning 0.5 to each stage. > > I’m more of the opinion that beta products are close to release, so 0.8+ > would be more suitable. > > > > Anyway, it’s a conversation to be had internally. > > > > Ged. > > > > *From:* Ros-dev *On Behalf Of * > hermes.belu...@sfr.fr > *Sent:* Wednesday, 28 November 2018 16:51 > *To:* ReactOS Development List > *Subject:* Re: [ros-dev] Status Meeting (November 2018) > > > > Hi! > > Usually when we talk about ReactOS 0.5, we implicitly think that it will > enter beta state there. > So unless you consider this to not completely hold anymore, we can look at > what remains to be done/fixed (importantly) so that we may qualify as going > into beta state. > (And yes, USB and storage sound strongly as prerequisites for 0.5 in my > opinion). > > Best, > Hermes > > De : "Ged Murphy" > A : "'ReactOS Development List'" > Envoyé: mercredi 28 novembre 2018 17:42 > Objet : Re: [ros-dev] Status Meeting (November 2018) > > > Some potential talking points: > > > >- Selecting a new coordinator >- Version bump to 0.5 >- USB / Storage (perhaps linked to a 0.5 release) > - Mattermost >- New website progress > > > > > > *From:* Ros-dev *On Behalf Of *Mark Jansen > *Sent:* Wednesday, 28 November 2018 16:13 > *To:* ReactOS Development List > *Subject:* Re: [ros-dev] Status Meeting (November 2018) > > > > We can discuss this if you are present, but I don't see the value in > discussing it without you. > > We have seen before that something discussed without the initiator being > present is time not well spent, since it is a bit hard to argue with only > one side of the argument present > > > > > > > > Op 26 nov. 2018 12:15 schreef hermes.belu...@sfr.fr: > > Hello, > > I may not be available as it's the day when I'm going somewhere for a > conference; it just depends at which time I arrive at destination. > > For the meeting we may talk about the best way we can move to delivering > all-in-one ReactOS ISOs (containing livecd + installation in both text and > GUI modes), and which changes this could imply for our infrastructure > (buildbots/website...). > > Best regards, > Hermes > > De : "Javier Agustìn Fernàndez Arroyo" > A : "ReactOS Development List" > Envoyé: samedi 24 novembre 2018 22:06 > Objet : Re: [ros-dev] Status Meeting (November 2018) > > > I'm at work but I will do my best to attend! > > > > El sáb., 24 nov. 2018 21:38, Colin Finck escribió: > > Hi all! > > Let me invite you to the November 2018 meeting, taking place next > Thursday, November 29, 2018 at 19:00 UTC. > Invited members will again receive their credentials shortly before the > meeting. > > This will be the first meeting since August and I hope we get some more > topics than just the obligatory Status Reports. Please send your > proposals by replying to this mail. > > > Best regards, > > Colin > > ___ > Ros-dev mailing list > Ros-dev@reactos.org > http://reactos.org/mailman/listinfo/ros-dev > > > > > ___ > Ros-dev mailing list > Ros-dev@reactos.org > http://reactos.org/mailman/listinfo/ros-dev > > > > > > > > > ___ > Ros-dev mailing list > Ros-dev@reactos.org > http://reactos.org/mailman/listinfo/ros-dev > > > ___ > Ros-dev mailing list > Ros-dev@reactos.org > http://reactos.org/mailman/listinfo/ros-dev ___ Ros-dev mailing list Ros-dev@reactos.org http://reactos.org/mailman/listinfo/ros-dev
Re: [ros-dev] Status Meeting (November 2018)
i still think a proper driver management is required for beta stage... And i mean, successful driver installation via installers, and not only via .inf files On Wed, Nov 28, 2018 at 6:02 PM Ged Murphy wrote: > The link between 0.5 and beta was an old statement we used to have on our > website, I’m not sure why that relationship existed other than a splitting > an integer in half and assigning 0.5 to each stage. > > I’m more of the opinion that beta products are close to release, so 0.8+ > would be more suitable. > > > > Anyway, it’s a conversation to be had internally. > > > > Ged. > > > > *From:* Ros-dev *On Behalf Of * > hermes.belu...@sfr.fr > *Sent:* Wednesday, 28 November 2018 16:51 > *To:* ReactOS Development List > *Subject:* Re: [ros-dev] Status Meeting (November 2018) > > > > Hi! > > Usually when we talk about ReactOS 0.5, we implicitly think that it will > enter beta state there. > So unless you consider this to not completely hold anymore, we can look at > what remains to be done/fixed (importantly) so that we may qualify as going > into beta state. > (And yes, USB and storage sound strongly as prerequisites for 0.5 in my > opinion). > > Best, > Hermes > > De : "Ged Murphy" > A : "'ReactOS Development List'" > Envoyé: mercredi 28 novembre 2018 17:42 > Objet : Re: [ros-dev] Status Meeting (November 2018) > > > Some potential talking points: > > > >- Selecting a new coordinator >- Version bump to 0.5 >- USB / Storage (perhaps linked to a 0.5 release) >- Mattermost > - New website progress > > > > > > *From:* Ros-dev *On Behalf Of *Mark Jansen > *Sent:* Wednesday, 28 November 2018 16:13 > *To:* ReactOS Development List > *Subject:* Re: [ros-dev] Status Meeting (November 2018) > > > > We can discuss this if you are present, but I don't see the value in > discussing it without you. > > We have seen before that something discussed without the initiator being > present is time not well spent, since it is a bit hard to argue with only > one side of the argument present > > > > > > > > Op 26 nov. 2018 12:15 schreef hermes.belu...@sfr.fr: > > Hello, > > I may not be available as it's the day when I'm going somewhere for a > conference; it just depends at which time I arrive at destination. > > For the meeting we may talk about the best way we can move to delivering > all-in-one ReactOS ISOs (containing livecd + installation in both text and > GUI modes), and which changes this could imply for our infrastructure > (buildbots/website...). > > Best regards, > Hermes > > De : "Javier Agustìn Fernàndez Arroyo" > A : "ReactOS Development List" > Envoyé: samedi 24 novembre 2018 22:06 > Objet : Re: [ros-dev] Status Meeting (November 2018) > > > I'm at work but I will do my best to attend! > > > > El sáb., 24 nov. 2018 21:38, Colin Finck escribió: > > Hi all! > > Let me invite you to the November 2018 meeting, taking place next > Thursday, November 29, 2018 at 19:00 UTC. > Invited members will again receive their credentials shortly before the > meeting. > > This will be the first meeting since August and I hope we get some more > topics than just the obligatory Status Reports. Please send your > proposals by replying to this mail. > > > Best regards, > > Colin > > ___ > Ros-dev mailing list > Ros-dev@reactos.org > http://reactos.org/mailman/listinfo/ros-dev > > > > > ___ > Ros-dev mailing list > Ros-dev@reactos.org > http://reactos.org/mailman/listinfo/ros-dev > > > > > > > > > ___ > Ros-dev mailing list > Ros-dev@reactos.org > http://reactos.org/mailman/listinfo/ros-dev > > > ___ > Ros-dev mailing list > Ros-dev@reactos.org > http://reactos.org/mailman/listinfo/ros-dev ___ Ros-dev mailing list Ros-dev@reactos.org http://reactos.org/mailman/listinfo/ros-dev
Re: [ros-dev] Status Meeting (November 2018)
I think a bump to 0.5 shoulld only be considered when 0.5 is beta instead of alpha. otherwise the 0.5 is only confusing. On Wed, 28 Nov 2018, Ged Murphy wrote: Some potential talking points: * Selecting a new coordinator * Version bump to 0.5 * USB / Storage (perhaps linked to a 0.5 release) * Mattermost * New website progress From: Ros-dev On Behalf Of Mark Jansen Sent: Wednesday, 28 November 2018 16:13 To: ReactOS Development List Subject: Re: [ros-dev] Status Meeting (November 2018) We can discuss this if you are present, but I don't see the value in discussing it without you. We have seen before that something discussed without the initiator being present is time not well spent, since it is a bit hard to argue with only one side of the argument present Op 26 nov. 2018 12:15 schreef hermes.belu...@sfr.fr: Hello, I may not be available as it's the day when I'm going somewhere for a conference; it just depends at which time I arrive at destination. For the meeting we may talk about the best way we can move to delivering all-in-one ReactOS ISOs (containing livecd + installation in both text and GUI modes), and which changes this could imply for our infrastructure (buildbots/website...). Best regards, Hermes De : "Javier Agustìn Fernàndez Arroyo" A : "ReactOS Development List" Envoyé: samedi 24 novembre 2018 22:06 Objet : Re: [ros-dev] Status Meeting (November 2018) I'm at work but I will do my best to attend! El sáb., 24 nov. 2018 21:38, Colin Finck escribió: Hi all! Let me invite you to the November 2018 meeting, taking place next Thursday, November 29, 2018 at 19:00 UTC. Invited members will again receive their credentials shortly before the meeting. This will be the first meeting since August and I hope we get some more topics than just the obligatory Status Reports. Please send your proposals by replying to this mail. Best regards, Colin ___ Ros-dev mailing list Ros-dev@reactos.org http://reactos.org/mailman/listinfo/ros-dev ___ Ros-dev mailing list Ros-dev@reactos.org http://reactos.org/mailman/listinfo/ros-dev ___ Ros-dev mailing list Ros-dev@reactos.org http://reactos.org/mailman/listinfo/ros-dev
Re: [ros-dev] Status Meeting (November 2018)
Hi! Usually when we talk about ReactOS 0.5, we implicitly think that it will enter beta state there. So unless you consider this to not completely hold anymore, we can look at what remains to be done/fixed (importantly) so that we may qualify as going into beta state. (And yes, USB and storage sound strongly as prerequisites for 0.5 in my opinion). Best, Hermes De : "Ged Murphy" A : "'ReactOS Development List'" Envoyé: mercredi 28 novembre 2018 17:42 Objet : Re: [ros-dev] Status Meeting (November 2018) <!-- /* Font Definitions */ @font-face {font-family:Wingdings; panose-1:5 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0;} @font-face {font-family:"Cambria Math"; panose-1:2 4 5 3 5 4 6 3 2 4;} @font-face {font-family:Calibri; panose-1:2 15 5 2 2 2 4 3 2 4;} /* Style Definitions */ p.MsoNormal, li.MsoNormal, div.MsoNormal {margin:0cm; margin-bottom:.0001pt; font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;} a:link, span.MsoHyperlink {mso-style-priority:99; color:blue; text-decoration:underline;} a:visited, span.MsoHyperlinkFollowed {mso-style-priority:99; color:purple; text-decoration:underline;} p.MsoListParagraph, li.MsoListParagraph, div.MsoListParagraph {mso-style-priority:34; margin-top:0cm; margin-right:0cm; margin-bottom:0cm; margin-left:36.0pt; margin-bottom:.0001pt; font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;} p.msonormal0, li.msonormal0, div.msonormal0 {mso-style-name:msonormal; mso-margin-top-alt:auto; margin-right:0cm; mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto; margin-left:0cm; font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;} span.EmailStyle19 {mso-style-type:personal-reply; font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;} .MsoChpDefault {mso-style-type:export-only; font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif; mso-fareast-language:EN-US;} @page WordSection1 {size:612.0pt 792.0pt; margin:72.0pt 72.0pt 72.0pt 72.0pt;} div.WordSection1 {page:WordSection1;} /* List Definitions */ @list l0 {mso-list-id:200482091; mso-list-type:hybrid; mso-list-template-ids:-551751142 -159226232 134807555 134807557 134807553 134807555 134807557 134807553 134807555 134807557;} @list l0:level1 {mso-level-start-at:0; mso-level-number-format:bullet; mso-level-text:-; mso-level-tab-stop:none; mso-level-number-position:left; text-indent:-18.0pt; font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif; mso-fareast-font-family:Calibri;} @list l0:level2 {mso-level-number-format:bullet; mso-level-text:o; mso-level-tab-stop:none; mso-level-number-position:left; text-indent:-18.0pt; font-family:"Courier New";} @list l0:level3 {mso-level-number-format:bullet; mso-level-text:; mso-level-tab-stop:none; mso-level-number-position:left; text-indent:-18.0pt; font-family:Wingdings;} @list l0:level4 {mso-level-number-format:bullet; mso-level-text:; mso-level-tab-stop:none; mso-level-number-position:left; text-indent:-18.0pt; font-family:Symbol;} @list l0:level5 {mso-level-number-format:bullet; mso-level-text:o; mso-level-tab-stop:none; mso-level-number-position:left; text-indent:-18.0pt; font-family:"Courier New";} @list l0:level6 {mso-level-number-format:bullet; mso-level-text:; mso-level-tab-stop:none; mso-level-number-position:left; text-indent:-18.0pt; font-family:Wingdings;} @list l0:level7 {mso-level-number-format:bullet; mso-level-text:; mso-level-tab-stop:none; mso-level-number-position:left; text-indent:-18.0pt; font-family:Symbol;} @list l0:level8 {mso-level-number-format:bullet; mso-level-text:o; mso-level-tab-stop:none; mso-level-number-position:left; text-indent:-18.0pt; font-family:"Courier New";} @list l0:level9 {mso-level-number-format:bullet; mso-level-text:; mso-level-tab-stop:none; mso-level-number-position:left; text-indent:-18.0pt; font-family:Wingdings;} ol {margin-bottom:0cm;} ul {margin-bottom:0cm;} --> Some potential talking points: Selecting a new coordinator Version bump to 0.5 USB / Storage (perhaps linked to a 0.5 release) Mattermost New website progress From: Ros-dev ros-dev-boun...@reactos.org On Behalf Of Mark Jansen Sent: Wednesday, 28 November 2018 16:13 To: ReactOS Development List ros-dev@r
Re: [ros-dev] Status Meeting (November 2018)
We can discuss this if you are present, but I don't see the value in discussing it without you.We have seen before that something discussed without the initiator being present is time not well spent, since it is a bit hard to argue with only one side of the argument presentOp 26 nov. 2018 12:15 schreef hermes.belu...@sfr.fr:Hello, I may not be available as it's the day when I'm going somewhere for a conference; it just depends at which time I arrive at destination. For the meeting we may talk about the best way we can move to delivering all-in-one ReactOS ISOs (containing livecd + installation in both text and GUI modes), and which changes this could imply for our infrastructure (buildbots/website...). Best regards, Hermes De : "Javier Agustìn Fernàndez Arroyo" A : "ReactOS Development List" Envoyé: samedi 24 novembre 2018 22:06 Objet : Re: [ros-dev] Status Meeting (November 2018) I'm at work but I will do my best to attend! El sáb., 24 nov. 2018 21:38, Colin Finck <colin@reactos.org> escribió: Hi all! Let me invite you to the November 2018 meeting, taking place next Thursday, November 29, 2018 at 19:00 UTC. Invited members will again receive their credentials shortly before the meeting. This will be the first meeting since August and I hope we get some more topics than just the obligatory Status Reports. Please send your proposals by replying to this mail. Best regards, Colin ___ Ros-dev mailing list Ros-dev@reactos.org http://reactos.org/mailman/listinfo/ros-dev ___ Ros-dev mailing list Ros-dev@reactos.org http://reactos.org/mailman/listinfo/ros-dev ___ Ros-dev mailing list Ros-dev@reactos.org http://reactos.org/mailman/listinfo/ros-dev
Re: [ros-dev] Status Meeting (November 2018)
Hello, I may not be available as it's the day when I'm going somewhere for a conference; it just depends at which time I arrive at destination. For the meeting we may talk about the best way we can move to delivering all-in-one ReactOS ISOs (containing livecd + installation in both text and GUI modes), and which changes this could imply for our infrastructure (buildbots/website...). Best regards, Hermes De : "Javier Agustìn Fernàndez Arroyo" A : "ReactOS Development List" Envoyé: samedi 24 novembre 2018 22:06 Objet : Re: [ros-dev] Status Meeting (November 2018) I'm at work but I will do my best to attend! El sáb., 24 nov. 2018 21:38, Colin Finck mailto:co...@reactos.org;>co...@reactos.org escribió: Hi all! Let me invite you to the November 2018 meeting, taking place next Thursday, November 29, 2018 at 19:00 UTC. Invited members will again receive their credentials shortly before the meeting. This will be the first meeting since August and I hope we get some more topics than just the obligatory Status Reports. Please send your proposals by replying to this mail. Best regards, Colin ___ Ros-dev mailing list mailto:Ros-dev@reactos.org; rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">Ros-dev@reactos.org http://reactos.org/mailman/listinfo/ros-dev; rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">http://reactos.org/mailman/listinfo/ros-dev ___ Ros-dev mailing list Ros-dev@reactos.org http://reactos.org/mailman/listinfo/ros-dev ___ Ros-dev mailing list Ros-dev@reactos.org http://reactos.org/mailman/listinfo/ros-dev
Re: [ros-dev] Status Meeting (November 2018)
I'm at work but I will do my best to attend! El sáb., 24 nov. 2018 21:38, Colin Finck escribió: > Hi all! > > Let me invite you to the November 2018 meeting, taking place next > Thursday, November 29, 2018 at 19:00 UTC. > Invited members will again receive their credentials shortly before the > meeting. > > This will be the first meeting since August and I hope we get some more > topics than just the obligatory Status Reports. Please send your > proposals by replying to this mail. > > > Best regards, > > Colin > > ___ > Ros-dev mailing list > Ros-dev@reactos.org > http://reactos.org/mailman/listinfo/ros-dev ___ Ros-dev mailing list Ros-dev@reactos.org http://reactos.org/mailman/listinfo/ros-dev