Re: [Rosegarden-user] LV2... Why?

2020-03-14 Thread Will Godfrey
On Sat, 14 Mar 2020 10:03:32 -0400
rhkra...@gmail.com wrote:

>On Saturday, March 14, 2020 04:31:42 AM Lorenzo Sutton wrote:
>> Sorry for the long email, we are locked at home here in Italy and maybe
>> more prone to techno-philosophical  thoughts :D  
>
>I hope you are reasonably comfortably locked in, stay safe, and get unlocked 
>soon!
>
Indeed! it's a strange world we live in these days.

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Re: [Rosegarden-user] LV2... Why?

2020-03-14 Thread rhkramer
On Saturday, March 14, 2020 04:31:42 AM Lorenzo Sutton wrote:
> Sorry for the long email, we are locked at home here in Italy and maybe
> more prone to techno-philosophical  thoughts :D

I hope you are reasonably comfortably locked in, stay safe, and get unlocked 
soon!


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Re: [Rosegarden-user] LV2... Why?

2020-03-14 Thread Michael N. Moran

Greetings,

In the spirit of use-cases, I'll chime-in.

I'm an occasional/casual user of Rosegarden and have been 
for many years.


I'm a very amateur guitar player and member of a church choir.

My most common use-case is that of trying to learn a 
particular vocal part (e.g. tenor) by listening to it over 
and over.


In this case, I will receive an octavo from the choir 
director and enter the part using the notation editor, and 
then play it back using a synth (e.g. fluidsynth).


Although the notation entry can be painfully slow, using 
Rosegarden has taught me a great deal about the intricacies 
of music notation. Thanks for that!


After using the notation editor to enter individual parts, I 
will sometimes use Ardour to create audio files which I then 
write a to CD-ROM for individual SATB parts for distribution 
to other choir members.


All this while using my beloved Linux machines that are the 
basis for my embedded-systems programming livelihood.


Thank you to all of the Rosegarden developers for your 
contributions.


- mike

On 3/14/20 4:31 AM, Lorenzo Sutton wrote:

Hi all,

I think it's really interesting to learn about people's 
different workflows, especially in more professional 
settings like in this case.




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Re: [Rosegarden-user] LV2... Why?

2020-03-14 Thread Lorenzo Sutton

Hi all,

I think it's really interesting to learn about people's different 
workflows, especially in more professional settings like in this case.


I guess it would also be nice to know what people might like in terms of 
more 'sequencer' related features. For me Rosegarden has always been 
primarily a sequencer with lots of really cool 'bonus' so to say 
features. For instance, I think Rosegarden's notation support is 
fantastis (I'm thinking primarily of composition, but its export to 
Lilypond is also really nice).


Honestly I have never used the audio features that much, but that's 
because my Linux set-ups are always very modular and I try to focus on 
different parts. i.e. I mostly use Ardour for audio and if needed I sync 
with jack transport.


IIRC the LV2 (and plugins) issues has often come up with new or 
'wannabe' Rosegarden users, but if the real user community doesn't see 
it as a priority, personally I can live with a no-plugins Rosegarden... 
For instance when composing with Yoshimi my workflow is exactly like 
Will's: rosegarden connected to Yoshimi via alsa-midi and saving 
Rosegarden file and yoshmi states, the only difference is that for the 
final 'master' I use mhwaveeditor which is a rather minimalistic 
single-file wave editor and works very well with jack, I will then just 
touch the global volume do a fade-out adjustment and that's it.


As some people maybe know I even did an entire feature film original 
soundtrack entirely with Rosegarden + a bunch of stand-alone synths 
including Yoshimi (85%), fluidsynth, hexter, linuxsampler. jack 
transport with xjadeo was a key feature to sync with the video and other 
probably mostly unknown Rosegarden features such as the ability to have 
the start of a piece _after_ measure 1.


I _did_ miss because of time constraints and length of music a way to 
'render' stuff directly to an audio file without having to 'record' it. 
If you think about it, it doesn't really make much sense unless you are 
doing something interactive or live to have to manually 'record' stuff 
digitally :)


Sorry for the long email, we are locked at home here in Italy and maybe 
more prone to techno-philosophical  thoughts :D


Lorenzo.

On 14/03/20 00:12, r...@hydrophones.com wrote:

Yeah, I do something similar.  I record the raw audio tracks with Rosegarden
and then when I have all the tracks (and then some), I pull them into
Audacity for editing, mixing, and processing.  Outputs are usually stereo,
5.1, and 7.1 flac files to be merged with video.

I use a Linux cluster and quite a bit of external MIDI gear.  Jack, MIDI,
and Netjack interfacing are important to my uses.



Just adding my take on the audio front.

I frequently collaborate with people who send me audio guitar and/or vocal
tracks. I load these into Rosegarden, then produce MIDI tracks to make my
additions. On very rare occasion I'll do some processing of the audio with
plugins in Rosegarden, but I prefer to pre-process externally, usually
with Audacity.

Once I have a project complete, I'll then play the audio from Rosegarden
into
Audacity in parallel with audio from Yoshimi to produce the complete
stereo
track. Finally, in Audacity, I'll trim start and end, and maybe run the
fast
lookahead limiter and set the overall level.

For anyone interested below is a typical example from some years back.
Vocal and
guitar is from Ged, the rest is Yoshimi.

https://soundcloud.com/soft-sounds/scarborough-fair-feat-rustysrtingz

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