Re: [Rosegarden-user] Bug or feature?
Hi, On 15/06/2016 21:14, Ted Felix wrote: > On 06/15/2016 10:40 AM, Abrolag wrote: >> On Mon, 16 May 2016 20:39:59 -0400 >> Ted Felix wrote: >>> Try the latest with the bank and program checkboxes unchecked and let >>> me know if this part is now fixed. It should be. If not, it should be >>> easy to fix. >> Decided to have a look at this and I can't find any such check boxes - prolly >> means I'm looking in the wrong place. [...] >This is the way every synth I have works. What are you using, and > how/why is it different? I'd like to run some experiments to better > understand what you are getting at here. One use case I have is hooking Rosegarden to Yoshimi via JACK (and ALSA midi), and loading states in Yoshimi. So Rosegarden sending bank/program changes to yoshimi disrupts the state I loaded (fortunately yoshimi does have an option to disable reacting to them). But I guess using (soft) synth or gear which can independently (and maybe in non standard e.g. non-General midi) manage 'states' etc. would be the strongest use case to only have rosegarden strictly send controllers, program changes etc. which are in segments. My two cents. > >> so I wonder if a per device initialise checkbox should be >> placed in Manage Midi Devices -> Midi Outputs. > >Something like this would belong in the device file for a specific > device. I suspect that you aren't using device files tailored to your > synth(s). And this might be why things aren't working as they should. > That would make sense IMHO. Indeed in the above example I usually create a blank device which I call 'Yoshimi' so that I don't have all the default GM stuff. >> As for the existing controls would it be practical to make them still >> operate, >> but actually embed the appropriate CCs in a running file? Or is that over the >> top? > >That's what the rulers are for, if I'm following what you are saying. > If you want us to record changes to the controller knobs in the > Instrument Parameters panel or on the MIDI Mixer as they happen > (automation), that's a pretty big feature request. Doable, but will > take some time. I guess that could be a nice enhancement of the controller rulers? I think they've really improved over the latest releases but there is still some room for usability/editability improvement :) My two cents. Lorenzo. -- What NetFlow Analyzer can do for you? Monitors network bandwidth and traffic patterns at an interface-level. Reveals which users, apps, and protocols are consuming the most bandwidth. Provides multi-vendor support for NetFlow, J-Flow, sFlow and other flows. Make informed decisions using capacity planning reports. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=1444514421&iu=/41014381 ___ Rosegarden-user mailing list Rosegarden-user@lists.sourceforge.net - use the link below to unsubscribe https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rosegarden-user
Re: [Rosegarden-user] Bug or feature?
On 06/15/2016 06:51 PM, Abrolag wrote: > On the next startup, if I start Yoshimi first, Rosegarden connects and resets > most of the controls to (now) wrong values. Changing bank root was a > particular > problem (now pretty much resolved) because it then meant Yoshimi was pointing > to > completely the wrong patches. Rosegarden provides support for (and works best with) device files. These contain lists of banks and programs and allow Rosegarden to control synths. Without a proper device file for Yoshimi, Rosegarden will make a mess of things, sending whatever bank select and program changes are in whatever device file you are using. This is what is causing trouble. You need a Yoshimi.rgd device file. I've started working on one based on the banks/programs that were installed for me with Yoshimi. So far, I have the Arpeggios, Bass, Brass, and Drums banks entered. With this, RG and Yoshimi get along just fine for me. I'll send it to you for testing once I've got it completed. There are a lot of programs. This will take some time. I have to enter them all manually. It's not fun. Ted. -- What NetFlow Analyzer can do for you? Monitors network bandwidth and traffic patterns at an interface-level. Reveals which users, apps, and protocols are consuming the most bandwidth. Provides multi-vendor support for NetFlow, J-Flow, sFlow and other flows. Make informed decisions using capacity planning reports. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=1444514421&iu=/41014381 ___ Rosegarden-user mailing list Rosegarden-user@lists.sourceforge.net - use the link below to unsubscribe https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rosegarden-user
Re: [Rosegarden-user] Bug or feature?
On Wed, 15 Jun 2016 17:11:50 -0400 "D. Michael McIntyre" wrote: > On 06/15/2016 03:14 PM, Ted Felix wrote: > > > Those are in the "Instrument Parameters" box on the left side. > > If they're missing, it's because you don't have any banks/programs > defined in the studio. > > > The idea behind sending this stuff out is that Rosegarden is in > > control of bank/program/CCs. So, it needs to send out something > > initially to make sure everything is where it should be for the start of > > the composition. > > Yup. Theoretically, if you don't define anything in the studio, there > shouldn't be anything to set to a known state. I would almost bet we > still set pan/volume/reverb/chorus for legacy reasons though. > > > > I think it would be best for you to get me set up so that I can see > > what you are talking about. It all seems very strange to me right now. > >It's not how I work with rg at all. > > Leave it to users to come up with weird stuff. Especially THAT rascal. :-P > Rascal indeed! Actually, both my Mk1 Roland Soundcanvas and my Yamaha SY35 *do* remember settings. They don't have MIDI controllable banks, but both remember last per channel programs, volume & pan. However, I mostly use Yoshimi these days, and 'state' on that preserves *everything* including master volume, detune and scales. I usually just load patch sets though, which are lighter weight but still have all programs, volume, pan, brightness and part key shift. So that's my starting point for a partly completed project. When starting from scratch I will tend to use Rosegarden's controls to make initial settings, and Yoshimi's for key shift and programs. As soon as I have more than 3 or 4 tracks started I'll save Yoshimi's current patch set. This is where the problems start. On the next startup, if I start Yoshimi first, Rosegarden connects and resets most of the controls to (now) wrong values. Changing bank root was a particular problem (now pretty much resolved) because it then meant Yoshimi was pointing to completely the wrong patches. If instead I start up Rosegarden first, it doesn't see Yoshimi, so I have to manually reconnect it. Now that last would seem to be the least problematical way to start, but I quite often like to start Yoshimi by itself. It will then automatically look for and connect to my keyboard, so I can just pootle* about for while and if inspiration strikes, start up Rosegarden and record. Now I have no idea at all how typical that is (is there such a thing), but to get things in perspective, I will say Rosegarden is much closer than any of the other sequencers I've used. Without naming names, one of the LV2 ones is particularly frustrating. It correctly does a complete state load... then resets all the controllers to their 'defaults' :( * "pootle" an arcane term used and understood only by the select few level 9 synthologists. -- W J G -- What NetFlow Analyzer can do for you? Monitors network bandwidth and traffic patterns at an interface-level. Reveals which users, apps, and protocols are consuming the most bandwidth. Provides multi-vendor support for NetFlow, J-Flow, sFlow and other flows. Make informed decisions using capacity planning reports. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=1444514421&iu=/41014381 ___ Rosegarden-user mailing list Rosegarden-user@lists.sourceforge.net - use the link below to unsubscribe https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rosegarden-user
Re: [Rosegarden-user] Bug or feature?
On 06/15/2016 03:14 PM, Ted Felix wrote: > Those are in the "Instrument Parameters" box on the left side. If they're missing, it's because you don't have any banks/programs defined in the studio. > The idea behind sending this stuff out is that Rosegarden is in > control of bank/program/CCs. So, it needs to send out something > initially to make sure everything is where it should be for the start of > the composition. Yup. Theoretically, if you don't define anything in the studio, there shouldn't be anything to set to a known state. I would almost bet we still set pan/volume/reverb/chorus for legacy reasons though. > I think it would be best for you to get me set up so that I can see > what you are talking about. It all seems very strange to me right now. >It's not how I work with rg at all. Leave it to users to come up with weird stuff. Especially THAT rascal. :-P -- D. Michael McIntyre -- What NetFlow Analyzer can do for you? Monitors network bandwidth and traffic patterns at an interface-level. Reveals which users, apps, and protocols are consuming the most bandwidth. Provides multi-vendor support for NetFlow, J-Flow, sFlow and other flows. Make informed decisions using capacity planning reports. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=1444514421&iu=/41014381 ___ Rosegarden-user mailing list Rosegarden-user@lists.sourceforge.net - use the link below to unsubscribe https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rosegarden-user
Re: [Rosegarden-user] Bug or feature?
On 06/15/2016 10:40 AM, Abrolag wrote: > On Mon, 16 May 2016 20:39:59 -0400 > Ted Felix wrote: >> Try the latest with the bank and program checkboxes unchecked and let >> me know if this part is now fixed. It should be. If not, it should be >> easy to fix. > Decided to have a look at this and I can't find any such check boxes - prolly > means I'm looking in the wrong place. Those are in the "Instrument Parameters" box on the left side. That's where you set the initial bank select/program change/controllers to be sent out on each track when the composition is loaded. Uncheck them and no bank selects or program changes will go out on a track. > My take on this is that we should have the choice of being able to stop > Rosegarden doing *any* initialising of the destination synth(s) but still pass > through any MIDI messages embedded in a file, or sent from and external > source. The idea behind sending this stuff out is that Rosegarden is in control of bank/program/CCs. So, it needs to send out something initially to make sure everything is where it should be for the start of the composition. > Now I appreciate that some older devices may start up in an undefined state > but > no modern ones should, IME, all modern devices start up in a defined but useless state. My P-105 (not an old device at all) starts up with all channels set to play Piano (at volume 100 and pan center). This is useless to me and there is no way for me from the front panel of the P-105 to say "I want channel 2 to be bass and 10 to be drums." So, I rely completely on RG to set up the instruments on each channel. This is the way every synth I have works. What are you using, and how/why is it different? I'd like to run some experiments to better understand what you are getting at here. > so I wonder if a per device initialise checkbox should be > placed in Manage Midi Devices -> Midi Outputs. Something like this would belong in the device file for a specific device. I suspect that you aren't using device files tailored to your synth(s). And this might be why things aren't working as they should. > As for the existing controls would it be practical to make them still operate, > but actually embed the appropriate CCs in a running file? Or is that over the > top? That's what the rulers are for, if I'm following what you are saying. If you want us to record changes to the controller knobs in the Instrument Parameters panel or on the MIDI Mixer as they happen (automation), that's a pretty big feature request. Doable, but will take some time. I think it would be best for you to get me set up so that I can see what you are talking about. It all seems very strange to me right now. It's not how I work with rg at all. Give me a rough list of what I need to do to get in sync with you. I can figure out the details. Ted. -- What NetFlow Analyzer can do for you? Monitors network bandwidth and traffic patterns at an interface-level. Reveals which users, apps, and protocols are consuming the most bandwidth. Provides multi-vendor support for NetFlow, J-Flow, sFlow and other flows. Make informed decisions using capacity planning reports. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=1444514421&iu=/41014381 ___ Rosegarden-user mailing list Rosegarden-user@lists.sourceforge.net - use the link below to unsubscribe https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rosegarden-user
Re: [Rosegarden-user] Bug or feature?
On Mon, 16 May 2016 20:39:59 -0400 Ted Felix wrote: > On 05/16/2016 04:25 PM, Lorenzo Sutton wrote: > > No wait! I still want to be able to mess with volume and controllers > > (knobs in tracks and automation in the matrix). > > What I would like to exclude is sending them when the file *loads*, > >Ok. I'll have to think some more about that. It's probably easily > doable with a composition level setting. > > > this especially applies to bank/program change which mangles my yoshimi > > state file I (possibly) already opened in yoshimi. > >Try the latest with the bank and program checkboxes unchecked and let > me know if this part is now fixed. It should be. If not, it should be > easy to fix. > > Ted. Decided to have a look at this and I can't find any such check boxes - prolly means I'm looking in the wrong place. My take on this is that we should have the choice of being able to stop Rosegarden doing *any* initialising of the destination synth(s) but still pass through any MIDI messages embedded in a file, or sent from and external source. Now I appreciate that some older devices may start up in an undefined state but no modern ones should, so I wonder if a per device initialise checkbox should be placed in Manage Midi Devices -> Midi Outputs. If checked, then Banks, Program, CCs all would be sent at startup to just that device, otherwise only messages as above. As for the existing controls would it be practical to make them still operate, but actually embed the appropriate CCs in a running file? Or is that over the top? -- W J G -- What NetFlow Analyzer can do for you? Monitors network bandwidth and traffic patterns at an interface-level. Reveals which users, apps, and protocols are consuming the most bandwidth. Provides multi-vendor support for NetFlow, J-Flow, sFlow and other flows. Make informed decisions using capacity planning reports. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=1444514421&iu=/41014381 ___ Rosegarden-user mailing list Rosegarden-user@lists.sourceforge.net - use the link below to unsubscribe https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rosegarden-user
Re: [Rosegarden-user] Bug or feature?
On Mon, 16 May 2016 20:39:59 -0400 Ted Felix wrote: > On 05/16/2016 04:25 PM, Lorenzo Sutton wrote: > > No wait! I still want to be able to mess with volume and controllers > > (knobs in tracks and automation in the matrix). > > What I would like to exclude is sending them when the file *loads*, > >Ok. I'll have to think some more about that. It's probably easily > doable with a composition level setting. > > > this especially applies to bank/program change which mangles my yoshimi > > state file I (possibly) already opened in yoshimi. > >Try the latest with the bank and program checkboxes unchecked and let > me know if this part is now fixed. It should be. If not, it should be > easy to fix. > > Ted. I'm still interested in this and will come back to you, but currently I'm snowed under with coding crap <- engineering term. Will. -- W J G -- What NetFlow Analyzer can do for you? Monitors network bandwidth and traffic patterns at an interface-level. Reveals which users, apps, and protocols are consuming the most bandwidth. Provides multi-vendor support for NetFlow, J-Flow, sFlow and other flows. Make informed decisions using capacity planning reports. https://ad.doubleclick.net/ddm/clk/305295220;132659582;e ___ Rosegarden-user mailing list Rosegarden-user@lists.sourceforge.net - use the link below to unsubscribe https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rosegarden-user
Re: [Rosegarden-user] Bug or feature?
On 05/16/2016 04:25 PM, Lorenzo Sutton wrote: > No wait! I still want to be able to mess with volume and controllers > (knobs in tracks and automation in the matrix). > What I would like to exclude is sending them when the file *loads*, Ok. I'll have to think some more about that. It's probably easily doable with a composition level setting. > this especially applies to bank/program change which mangles my yoshimi > state file I (possibly) already opened in yoshimi. Try the latest with the bank and program checkboxes unchecked and let me know if this part is now fixed. It should be. If not, it should be easy to fix. Ted. -- Mobile security can be enabling, not merely restricting. Employees who bring their own devices (BYOD) to work are irked by the imposition of MDM restrictions. Mobile Device Manager Plus allows you to control only the apps on BYO-devices by containerizing them, leaving personal data untouched! https://ad.doubleclick.net/ddm/clk/304595813;131938128;j ___ Rosegarden-user mailing list Rosegarden-user@lists.sourceforge.net - use the link below to unsubscribe https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rosegarden-user
Re: [Rosegarden-user] Bug or feature?
On 16/05/16 22:10, Ted Felix wrote: > On 05/16/2016 09:44 AM, Lorenzo Sutton wrote: >> Hi Ted, what do you mean with controllers removed? You mean explicitly >> removing them from the device set-up? This (I think) would disable use >> of controller rulers (as reverse to adding controllers which enables >> rulers) and that would be rather inconvenient. > >Ok, then that's still a problem for you. So, you need a "Send > Initial CCs" checkbox (to uncheck) on the Instrument Parameters panel. > That should be relatively easy to implement. I assume it would cause > the knobs to go away since there's no point in them if no initial CCs > are going out. No wait! I still want to be able to mess with volume and controllers (knobs in tracks and automation in the matrix). What I would like to exlude is sending them when the file *loads*, but this especially applies to bank/program change which mangles my yoshimi state file I (possibly) already opened in yoshimi. But it maybe a corner case so maybe also hear what other users think :) -- Mobile security can be enabling, not merely restricting. Employees who bring their own devices (BYOD) to work are irked by the imposition of MDM restrictions. Mobile Device Manager Plus allows you to control only the apps on BYO-devices by containerizing them, leaving personal data untouched! https://ad.doubleclick.net/ddm/clk/304595813;131938128;j ___ Rosegarden-user mailing list Rosegarden-user@lists.sourceforge.net - use the link below to unsubscribe https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rosegarden-user
Re: [Rosegarden-user] Bug or feature?
On 05/16/2016 09:44 AM, Lorenzo Sutton wrote: > Hi Ted, what do you mean with controllers removed? You mean explicitly > removing them from the device set-up? This (I think) would disable use > of controller rulers (as reverse to adding controllers which enables > rulers) and that would be rather inconvenient. Ok, then that's still a problem for you. So, you need a "Send Initial CCs" checkbox (to uncheck) on the Instrument Parameters panel. That should be relatively easy to implement. I assume it would cause the knobs to go away since there's no point in them if no initial CCs are going out. Ted. -- Mobile security can be enabling, not merely restricting. Employees who bring their own devices (BYOD) to work are irked by the imposition of MDM restrictions. Mobile Device Manager Plus allows you to control only the apps on BYO-devices by containerizing them, leaving personal data untouched! https://ad.doubleclick.net/ddm/clk/304595813;131938128;j ___ Rosegarden-user mailing list Rosegarden-user@lists.sourceforge.net - use the link below to unsubscribe https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rosegarden-user
Re: [Rosegarden-user] Bug or feature?
On 16/05/2016 14:41, Ted Felix wrote: > On 05/13/2016 07:54 AM, Lorenzo Sutton wrote: >> it would be nice to have an option to not >> send anything upon file load / playback > > We should be closer to this now. Using a device with the controllers > removed and unchecking the Bank/Program checkboxes should result in > nothing going out. Try it out with the latest and see if anything > remains to be done for this. Hi Ted, what do you mean with controllers removed? You mean explicitly removing them from the device set-up? This (I think) would disable use of controller rulers (as reverse to adding controllers which enables rulers) and that would be rather inconvenient. -- Mobile security can be enabling, not merely restricting. Employees who bring their own devices (BYOD) to work are irked by the imposition of MDM restrictions. Mobile Device Manager Plus allows you to control only the apps on BYO-devices by containerizing them, leaving personal data untouched! https://ad.doubleclick.net/ddm/clk/304595813;131938128;j ___ Rosegarden-user mailing list Rosegarden-user@lists.sourceforge.net - use the link below to unsubscribe https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rosegarden-user
Re: [Rosegarden-user] Bug or feature?
On 05/13/2016 07:54 AM, Lorenzo Sutton wrote: > it would be nice to have an option to not > send anything upon file load / playback We should be closer to this now. Using a device with the controllers removed and unchecking the Bank/Program checkboxes should result in nothing going out. Try it out with the latest and see if anything remains to be done for this. Ted. -- Mobile security can be enabling, not merely restricting. Employees who bring their own devices (BYOD) to work are irked by the imposition of MDM restrictions. Mobile Device Manager Plus allows you to control only the apps on BYO-devices by containerizing them, leaving personal data untouched! https://ad.doubleclick.net/ddm/clk/304595813;131938128;j ___ Rosegarden-user mailing list Rosegarden-user@lists.sourceforge.net - use the link below to unsubscribe https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rosegarden-user
Re: [Rosegarden-user] Bug or feature?
On 13/05/2016 13:18, Ted Felix wrote: > On 05/13/2016 06:06 AM, Lorenzo Sutton wrote: >> Does this solve the problem where if I open yoshimi (or it is already >> opened) and load a state file *before* opening file in rosegarden, >> rosegarden will fire a set of program changes which effectively mangle >> my yoshimi state? > > Probably not. We still send the initial setup out on file load to get > external synths ready. If you don't want bank selects or program > changes sent out, uncheck the Bank and Program checkboxes in the > Instrument Parameters box for each track. > > Ted. That's actually what I (think I) do, or better, what I do is to create a new midi output usually called something like "yoshimi" which is just blank (i.e. not general midi etc.) and would assume that wouldn't be sending anything. Still a bunch of program changes (and maybe controllers) is sent upon file load... For scenarios like yoshimi and external synths which already have bank/patch/state management it would be nice to have an option to not send anything upon file load / playback, but only if it is in the events. i.e. if I have controllers explicitly written in the segment I'd obviously want those sent. Lorenzo. -- Mobile security can be enabling, not merely restricting. Employees who bring their own devices (BYOD) to work are irked by the imposition of MDM restrictions. Mobile Device Manager Plus allows you to control only the apps on BYO-devices by containerizing them, leaving personal data untouched! https://ad.doubleclick.net/ddm/clk/304595813;131938128;j ___ Rosegarden-user mailing list Rosegarden-user@lists.sourceforge.net - use the link below to unsubscribe https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rosegarden-user
Re: [Rosegarden-user] Bug or feature?
On 05/13/2016 06:06 AM, Lorenzo Sutton wrote: > Does this solve the problem where if I open yoshimi (or it is already > opened) and load a state file *before* opening file in rosegarden, > rosegarden will fire a set of program changes which effectively mangle > my yoshimi state? Probably not. We still send the initial setup out on file load to get external synths ready. If you don't want bank selects or program changes sent out, uncheck the Bank and Program checkboxes in the Instrument Parameters box for each track. Ted. -- Mobile security can be enabling, not merely restricting. Employees who bring their own devices (BYOD) to work are irked by the imposition of MDM restrictions. Mobile Device Manager Plus allows you to control only the apps on BYO-devices by containerizing them, leaving personal data untouched! https://ad.doubleclick.net/ddm/clk/304595813;131938128;j ___ Rosegarden-user mailing list Rosegarden-user@lists.sourceforge.net - use the link below to unsubscribe https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rosegarden-user
Re: [Rosegarden-user] Bug or feature?
On 13/05/2016 10:52, Abrolag wrote: > On Thu, 12 May 2016 07:32:18 +0100 > Abrolag wrote: > >> On Wed, 11 May 2016 19:12:40 -0400 >> Ted Felix wrote: >> >>> On 05/04/2016 04:40 PM, Abrolag wrote: Thanks Ted. I do appreciate that these things aren't as easy as they look :( >>> >>>Looks like bug #1516 might be fixed now. Grab the latest svn and >>> give it a whirl. >>> >>> https://sourceforge.net/p/rosegarden/bugs/1516/ >>> >>> Ted. >> >> Thanks Ted. I just had a quick look at this on my office machine and it looks >> good :) >> >> I'll do a more complete test this evening on my DAW. >> > > Ran a number of projects on this some with several bank/program and CC changes > across segments and tracks. > > All behaved exactly as I wanted with changes only being made by the specific > commands in the files. :D > > Thanks a lot. > Does this solve the problem where if I open yoshimi (or it is already opened) and load a state file *before* opening file in rosegarden, rosegarden will fire a set of program changes which effectively mangle my yoshimi state? Lorenzo. -- Mobile security can be enabling, not merely restricting. Employees who bring their own devices (BYOD) to work are irked by the imposition of MDM restrictions. Mobile Device Manager Plus allows you to control only the apps on BYO-devices by containerizing them, leaving personal data untouched! https://ad.doubleclick.net/ddm/clk/304595813;131938128;j ___ Rosegarden-user mailing list Rosegarden-user@lists.sourceforge.net - use the link below to unsubscribe https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rosegarden-user
Re: [Rosegarden-user] Bug or feature?
On Thu, 12 May 2016 07:32:18 +0100 Abrolag wrote: > On Wed, 11 May 2016 19:12:40 -0400 > Ted Felix wrote: > > > On 05/04/2016 04:40 PM, Abrolag wrote: > > > Thanks Ted. I do appreciate that these things aren't as easy as they look > > > :( > > > >Looks like bug #1516 might be fixed now. Grab the latest svn and > > give it a whirl. > > > > https://sourceforge.net/p/rosegarden/bugs/1516/ > > > > Ted. > > Thanks Ted. I just had a quick look at this on my office machine and it looks > good :) > > I'll do a more complete test this evening on my DAW. > Ran a number of projects on this some with several bank/program and CC changes across segments and tracks. All behaved exactly as I wanted with changes only being made by the specific commands in the files. :D Thanks a lot. -- W J G -- Mobile security can be enabling, not merely restricting. Employees who bring their own devices (BYOD) to work are irked by the imposition of MDM restrictions. Mobile Device Manager Plus allows you to control only the apps on BYO-devices by containerizing them, leaving personal data untouched! https://ad.doubleclick.net/ddm/clk/304595813;131938128;j ___ Rosegarden-user mailing list Rosegarden-user@lists.sourceforge.net - use the link below to unsubscribe https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rosegarden-user
Re: [Rosegarden-user] Bug or feature?
On Wed, 11 May 2016 19:12:40 -0400 Ted Felix wrote: > On 05/04/2016 04:40 PM, Abrolag wrote: > > Thanks Ted. I do appreciate that these things aren't as easy as they look > > :( > >Looks like bug #1516 might be fixed now. Grab the latest svn and > give it a whirl. > > https://sourceforge.net/p/rosegarden/bugs/1516/ > > Ted. Thanks Ted. I just had a quick look at this on my office machine and it looks good :) I'll do a more complete test this evening on my DAW. -- W J G -- Mobile security can be enabling, not merely restricting. Employees who bring their own devices (BYOD) to work are irked by the imposition of MDM restrictions. Mobile Device Manager Plus allows you to control only the apps on BYO-devices by containerizing them, leaving personal data untouched! https://ad.doubleclick.net/ddm/clk/304595813;131938128;j ___ Rosegarden-user mailing list Rosegarden-user@lists.sourceforge.net - use the link below to unsubscribe https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rosegarden-user
Re: [Rosegarden-user] Bug or feature?
On 05/04/2016 04:40 PM, Abrolag wrote: > Thanks Ted. I do appreciate that these things aren't as easy as they look :( Looks like bug #1516 might be fixed now. Grab the latest svn and give it a whirl. https://sourceforge.net/p/rosegarden/bugs/1516/ Ted. -- Mobile security can be enabling, not merely restricting. Employees who bring their own devices (BYOD) to work are irked by the imposition of MDM restrictions. Mobile Device Manager Plus allows you to control only the apps on BYO-devices by containerizing them, leaving personal data untouched! https://ad.doubleclick.net/ddm/clk/304595813;131938128;j ___ Rosegarden-user mailing list Rosegarden-user@lists.sourceforge.net - use the link below to unsubscribe https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rosegarden-user
Re: [Rosegarden-user] Bug or feature?
On Wed, 4 May 2016 15:21:17 -0400 Ted Felix wrote: > On 05/04/2016 01:35 PM, Abrolag wrote: > >> https://sourceforge.net/p/rosegarden/bugs/1516/ > > Any chance of some progress on this. I've just tried build 14635 and the > > problem is still there. I've actually reverted to 14235 on my DAW :( > >Should have a fix in a week or two. This is proving to be very > difficult to fix due to the auto channels feature. I have it fixed for > playback, but MIDI export is broken. > > Ted. Thanks Ted. I do appreciate that these things aren't as easy as they look :( -- W J G -- Find and fix application performance issues faster with Applications Manager Applications Manager provides deep performance insights into multiple tiers of your business applications. It resolves application problems quickly and reduces your MTTR. Get your free trial! https://ad.doubleclick.net/ddm/clk/302982198;130105516;z ___ Rosegarden-user mailing list Rosegarden-user@lists.sourceforge.net - use the link below to unsubscribe https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rosegarden-user
Re: [Rosegarden-user] Bug or feature?
On 05/04/2016 01:35 PM, Abrolag wrote: >> https://sourceforge.net/p/rosegarden/bugs/1516/ > Any chance of some progress on this. I've just tried build 14635 and the > problem is still there. I've actually reverted to 14235 on my DAW :( Should have a fix in a week or two. This is proving to be very difficult to fix due to the auto channels feature. I have it fixed for playback, but MIDI export is broken. Ted. -- Find and fix application performance issues faster with Applications Manager Applications Manager provides deep performance insights into multiple tiers of your business applications. It resolves application problems quickly and reduces your MTTR. Get your free trial! https://ad.doubleclick.net/ddm/clk/302982198;130105516;z ___ Rosegarden-user mailing list Rosegarden-user@lists.sourceforge.net - use the link below to unsubscribe https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rosegarden-user
Re: [Rosegarden-user] Bug or feature?
On Sat, 26 Mar 2016 17:09:29 -0400 "D. Michael McIntyre" wrote: > On 03/26/2016 03:25 PM, Abrolag wrote: > > > This seems quite wrong to me, and caused me a lot of trouble until I had a > > track with changes that were big enough for me to notice the fader move > > significantly. > > https://sourceforge.net/p/rosegarden/bugs/1516/ > > I'll come down on the side of bug, but I'm not in a good position to > dive in and tinker with this one. I have a vague idea what's going on, > but I've never seen the code. Find the code, figure out how it works, > figure out how to teach it some new rules... It just feels like more > work than I could possibly accomplish right now, and I'm not even going > to make the attempt. > > Maybe after I have transitioned to my new job in about a month. Any chance of some progress on this. I've just tried build 14635 and the problem is still there. I've actually reverted to 14235 on my DAW :( I do lots of multi-segment tracks and this was becoming a nightmare. -- W J G -- Find and fix application performance issues faster with Applications Manager Applications Manager provides deep performance insights into multiple tiers of your business applications. It resolves application problems quickly and reduces your MTTR. Get your free trial! https://ad.doubleclick.net/ddm/clk/302982198;130105516;z ___ Rosegarden-user mailing list Rosegarden-user@lists.sourceforge.net - use the link below to unsubscribe https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rosegarden-user
Re: [Rosegarden-user] Bug or feature?
On 03/26/2016 03:25 PM, Abrolag wrote: > This seems quite wrong to me, and caused me a lot of trouble until I had a > track with changes that were big enough for me to notice the fader move > significantly. https://sourceforge.net/p/rosegarden/bugs/1516/ I'll come down on the side of bug, but I'm not in a good position to dive in and tinker with this one. I have a vague idea what's going on, but I've never seen the code. Find the code, figure out how it works, figure out how to teach it some new rules... It just feels like more work than I could possibly accomplish right now, and I'm not even going to make the attempt. Maybe after I have transitioned to my new job in about a month. -- D. Michael McIntyre -- Transform Data into Opportunity. Accelerate data analysis in your applications with Intel Data Analytics Acceleration Library. Click to learn more. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=278785351&iu=/4140 ___ Rosegarden-user mailing list Rosegarden-user@lists.sourceforge.net - use the link below to unsubscribe https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rosegarden-user
[Rosegarden-user] Bug or feature?
I suspect the former :( The way to demonstrate it is: Start a segment on (say) track one, record a bit then stop. Go into the Event List Editor and put in a volume change near the start. Start another segment on the same track after the end of the first one and record on that. Playback, without stopping, through a synth that shows volume levels. You'll see the correct change in the first segment, but the second one will jump to the track's default value. This applies to things like panning too. This seems quite wrong to me, and caused me a lot of trouble until I had a track with changes that were big enough for me to notice the fader move significantly. -- W J G -- Transform Data into Opportunity. Accelerate data analysis in your applications with Intel Data Analytics Acceleration Library. Click to learn more. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=278785351&iu=/4140 ___ Rosegarden-user mailing list Rosegarden-user@lists.sourceforge.net - use the link below to unsubscribe https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rosegarden-user
