Re: [Rosegarden-user] Synth plugin *.so files not found or unusable [12.04]
It could be worse. Due to a sordid, uninteresting tale of forgotten usernames and attempts to consolidate accounts, I am now known on almost every message board as Mr. Bumpy (mrbumpy409). I have no one to blame but myself, but if I could start over... -~Chris On 10/26/2012 04:35 AM, D. Michael McIntyre wrote: > On 10/25/2012 03:56 PM, k...@trixtar.org wrote: > >> T H I S is what I was lookin' for, thanks a zillion! When I pointed >> let's say my 1st instance of qsynth to a given soundfont file I >> _presumed_ it was being 'loaded' so that any calls to my qs1 would >> include. > It's all good. You should have seen me wrestling with these same issues > when I first started. > >> Do you play the trumpet BTW [rosegarden.trumpeter]? > Yes, back when GMail first came out and I was creating an account for > the merry hell of it, I thought that would be so cute and wonderful. > I'm a Rosegarden guy, and a trumpet player, so I will wear this on my > sleeve like a three year old. > > In those days, I didn't use it for anything real, but things evolved > over time, and I ended up using it as my primary address when one > account after another dried up. It looks great on job applications and > business cards, let me tell you. > > Sigh. -- The Windows 8 Center In partnership with Sourceforge Your idea - your app - 30 days. Get started! http://windows8center.sourceforge.net/ what-html-developers-need-to-know-about-coding-windows-8-metro-style-apps/ ___ Rosegarden-user mailing list Rosegarden-user@lists.sourceforge.net - use the link below to unsubscribe https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rosegarden-user
Re: [Rosegarden-user] Synth plugin *.so files not found or unusable [12.04]
On 10/25/2012 03:56 PM, k...@trixtar.org wrote: > T H I S is what I was lookin' for, thanks a zillion! When I pointed > let's say my 1st instance of qsynth to a given soundfont file I > _presumed_ it was being 'loaded' so that any calls to my qs1 would > include. It's all good. You should have seen me wrestling with these same issues when I first started. > Do you play the trumpet BTW [rosegarden.trumpeter]? Yes, back when GMail first came out and I was creating an account for the merry hell of it, I thought that would be so cute and wonderful. I'm a Rosegarden guy, and a trumpet player, so I will wear this on my sleeve like a three year old. In those days, I didn't use it for anything real, but things evolved over time, and I ended up using it as my primary address when one account after another dried up. It looks great on job applications and business cards, let me tell you. Sigh. -- D. Michael McIntyre -- Everyone hates slow websites. So do we. Make your web apps faster with AppDynamics Download AppDynamics Lite for free today: http://p.sf.net/sfu/appdyn_sfd2d_oct ___ Rosegarden-user mailing list Rosegarden-user@lists.sourceforge.net - use the link below to unsubscribe https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rosegarden-user
Re: [Rosegarden-user] Synth plugin *.so files not found or unusable [12.04]
> --
> Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2012 07:03:24 -0400
> From: "D. Michael McIntyre"
> Subject: Re: [Rosegarden-user] Synth plugin *.so files not found or
> unusable [12.04]
> To: rosegarden-user@lists.sourceforge.net
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> On 10/23/2012 03:58 PM, k...@trixtar.org wrote:
>
> > - create qs1 & connect to 129:0 Synth input port (4145:0)("write")
> > - create qs2 & connect to 130:0 Synth input port (Qsynth2:0)..
> > - create qs3 & connect to 131:0 Synth input port (Qsynth3:0)..
>
> >- green flash on Qsynth instance tabs as the
> > appropriate track is clicked selected
> >- midi mixer showing all 3 qsynth instances
>
> > ...and this is where I get stuck looking for a way to set a
> > different (musical) instrument aka 'sound'
>
> So far so good. You almost made it.
>
> When you created the new devices for qs1-qs3 and hooked them up, you
> didn't load any device definitions. Rosegarden only provides controls
> for changing programs, banks, controllers, etc. that it knows about, so
> you need to let Rosegarden know what's hooked up.
>
> The most expedient way to do that in your case is to go load everything
> straight out of the .sf2 files associated with each of your new devices.
>
> Studio -> Manage MIDI Devices, choose qs1 as a starting point, hit
> Banks, then Import, then change "Files of type" to say "Sound fonts."
>
> Navigate to wherever the first .sf2 file is stored, then select it.
> When the options dialog pops up, the default options should be fine.
>
> Now you'll be able to use the controls in Instrument Parameters to
> change programs.
> D. Michael McIntyre
T H I S is what I was lookin' for, thanks a zillion! When I pointed
let's say my 1st instance of qsynth to a given soundfont file I
_presumed_ it was being 'loaded' so that any calls to my qs1 would
include. That's why I couldn't finger out why-oh-why the instrument
params didn't show them. So then what exactly does setting it in the
qsynth setup accomplish? ..but don't nobody lose any sleep over this one :-)
Do you play the trumpet BTW [rosegarden.trumpeter]?
> Just a thought: is liblo installed?
> Tim Munro
Yes, I've been installing everything I could find including the
neighbor's piano trying to make _this_ work. The dssi plugins
work alright, I'll use those whenever possible because they all
come together in the nice Studio>Audi-Mixer for recording as a
wave file (making backing tracks).
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Re: [Rosegarden-user] Synth plugin *.so files not found or unusable [12.04]
On 10/24/2012 11:27 AM, Al Thompson wrote: > Is there a way to accomplish this for DSSI synth plugins also? I've > been fiddling with it forever, but haven't found a way. Different animal entirely. I want to say some of them have programs that are accessible directly from Rosegarden, like Hexter comes to mind. Mostly, though, you have to use the external editor for anything the slightest bit complicated on synth plugins. Going on memory; no time to even glance hands on just now. -- D. Michael McIntyre -- Everyone hates slow websites. So do we. Make your web apps faster with AppDynamics Download AppDynamics Lite for free today: http://p.sf.net/sfu/appdyn_sfd2d_oct ___ Rosegarden-user mailing list Rosegarden-user@lists.sourceforge.net - use the link below to unsubscribe https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rosegarden-user
Re: [Rosegarden-user] Synth plugin *.so files not found or unusable [12.04]
Al Thompson wrote: > On 10/24/2012 07:03 AM, D. Michael McIntyre wrote: >> >> Studio -> Manage MIDI Devices, choose qs1 as a starting point, hit >> Banks, then Import, then change "Files of type" to say "Sound fonts." >> >> Navigate to wherever the first .sf2 file is stored, then select it. >> When the options dialog pops up, the default options should be fine. >> >> Now you'll be able to use the controls in Instrument Parameters to >> change programs. It automatically loads whatever is in the soundfont, >> so you'll have access to all the banks of programs and any additional >> drum kits as well. Once you get this far, you can probably figure out >> how to set that stuff up by fiddling with the controls. You'll find >> them much more responsive once there are some controls to use! >> > > Is there a way to accomplish this for DSSI synth plugins also? I've > been fiddling with it forever, but haven't found a way. > > Just a thought: is liblo installed? Tim Munro -- Everyone hates slow websites. So do we. Make your web apps faster with AppDynamics Download AppDynamics Lite for free today: http://p.sf.net/sfu/appdyn_sfd2d_oct ___ Rosegarden-user mailing list Rosegarden-user@lists.sourceforge.net - use the link below to unsubscribe https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rosegarden-user
Re: [Rosegarden-user] Synth plugin *.so files not found or unusable [12.04]
On 10/24/2012 07:03 AM, D. Michael McIntyre wrote: > > Studio -> Manage MIDI Devices, choose qs1 as a starting point, hit > Banks, then Import, then change "Files of type" to say "Sound fonts." > > Navigate to wherever the first .sf2 file is stored, then select it. > When the options dialog pops up, the default options should be fine. > > Now you'll be able to use the controls in Instrument Parameters to > change programs. It automatically loads whatever is in the soundfont, > so you'll have access to all the banks of programs and any additional > drum kits as well. Once you get this far, you can probably figure out > how to set that stuff up by fiddling with the controls. You'll find > them much more responsive once there are some controls to use! > Is there a way to accomplish this for DSSI synth plugins also? I've been fiddling with it forever, but haven't found a way. -- --- My bands, CD projects, music, news, and pictures: http://www.lateralforce.com My blog, with commentary on a variety of things, including audio, mixing, equipment, etc, is at: http://audioandmore.wordpress.com Staat heißt das kälteste aller kalten Ungeheuer. Kalt lügt es auch; und diese Lüge kriecht aus seinem Munde: 'Ich, der Staat, bin das Volk.' - [Friedrich Nietzsche] -- Everyone hates slow websites. So do we. Make your web apps faster with AppDynamics Download AppDynamics Lite for free today: http://p.sf.net/sfu/appdyn_sfd2d_oct ___ Rosegarden-user mailing list Rosegarden-user@lists.sourceforge.net - use the link below to unsubscribe https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rosegarden-user
Re: [Rosegarden-user] Synth plugin *.so files not found or unusable [12.04]
On 10/23/2012 03:58 PM, k...@trixtar.org wrote:
> - create qs1 & connect to 129:0 Synth input port (4145:0)("write")
> - create qs2 & connect to 130:0 Synth input port (Qsynth2:0)..
> - create qs3 & connect to 131:0 Synth input port (Qsynth3:0)..
>- green flash on Qsynth instance tabs as the
> appropriate track is clicked selected
>- midi mixer showing all 3 qsynth instances
> ...and this is where I get stuck looking for a way to set a
> different (musical) instrument aka 'sound'
So far so good. You almost made it.
When you created the new devices for qs1-qs3 and hooked them up, you
didn't load any device definitions. Rosegarden only provides controls
for changing programs, banks, controllers, etc. that it knows about, so
you need to let Rosegarden know what's hooked up.
The most expedient way to do that in your case is to go load everything
straight out of the .sf2 files associated with each of your new devices.
Studio -> Manage MIDI Devices, choose qs1 as a starting point, hit
Banks, then Import, then change "Files of type" to say "Sound fonts."
Navigate to wherever the first .sf2 file is stored, then select it.
When the options dialog pops up, the default options should be fine.
Now you'll be able to use the controls in Instrument Parameters to
change programs. It automatically loads whatever is in the soundfont,
so you'll have access to all the banks of programs and any additional
drum kits as well. Once you get this far, you can probably figure out
how to set that stuff up by fiddling with the controls. You'll find
them much more responsive once there are some controls to use!
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Re: [Rosegarden-user] Synth plugin *.so files not found or unusable [12.04]
> --
>
> Message: 2
> Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2012 10:48:04 -0400
> From: "D. Michael McIntyre"
> Subject: Re: [Rosegarden-user] Synths: other collections(?)
> To: rosegarden-user@lists.sourceforge.net
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>
> On 10/20/2012 05:30 PM, k...@trixtar.org wrote:
>
> > If I next select qs1 (my instance of a running qsynth set up to
> > use the "FluidR3_GM.sf2" font file) then I do get sound but it has
> > nothing to do with the musical instrument I want and the bank/prog
> > dialog is still gone.
>
> I think what probably happened is this.
>
> 1. You had the generic "General MIDI Device"
.
> Alternatively, you could load the programs out of the .sf2 file so that
> "qs1" also has banks/programs available.
>
> I'm writing this in a huge hurry, and have glossed over a lot of
> details. If this doesn't give you the boost you need, I can get into
> more detail once I have more time.
> --
> D. Michael McIntyre
Thanks for the response, it's appreciated.
It may be best to just list what I try..
1 - launch qjackctl & start it
2 - launch qsyth &
- connect to jack
- setup qs1 (qsynth in the qjackctl map) with soundfont
package FluidR3_GM.sf2 on top in the qs1 setup browser
- setup qs2 (Qsynth2 in the qjackctl map) with soundfont
package PC51f.sf2 on top in the qs2 setup browser
- setup qs3 (Qsynth3 in the qjackctl map) with soundfont
package GUserGSMuse.sf2 on top in the qs3 setup browser
3 - launch rosegarden
- connect it to system in the qjackctl map
- also connect all qsynths to system and rosegarden
4 - rosegarden Manage Midi Devices
- delete General Midi
- create qs1 & connect to 129:0 Synth input port (4145:0)("write")
- create qs2 & connect to 130:0 Synth input port (Qsynth2:0)..
- create qs3 & connect to 131:0 Synth input port (Qsynth3:0)..
5 - Rosegarden
- set track 1 to qs1 & #1
- set track 2 to qs1 & #2
- set track 3 to qs1 & #3
- Observe
- green flash on Qsynth instance tabs as the
appropriate track is clicked selected
- midi mixer showing all 3 qsynth instances
...and this is where I get stuck looking for a way to set a
different (musical) instrument aka 'sound' to each of the 3
tracks which at this point all play the same piano sound.
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Re: [Rosegarden-user] Synth plugin *.so files not found or unusable [12.04]
> -- > > Message: 5 > Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2012 17:30:18 -0700 > From: Tim Munro > Subject: Re: [Rosegarden-user] Synth plugin *.so files not found or > unusable [12.04] > To: rosegarden-user@lists.sourceforge.net > Message-ID: <5084939a.9030...@lewiston.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > > > > OpenSUSE-12.2/64 & PhenomII box > > > > Version 11.11.42-51.20 showed plugins in the lists but didn't do > > anything with them & clicking edit on any of them in > > Studio>Manage-Synth-Plugins had no effect (I did wait). So I just > > installed 12.04 from source tarball after telling it to look for the > > Qt material under /usr/lib64/qt4. This one may or may not be able to > > deal with plugins but it cannot find(?) them. > > > > Plugins not found > > The following audio plugins could not be loaded > > FluidSynth-DSSI (from fluidsynth-dssi.so) > > ZASF (from zynaddsubfx.so) > > > > It says "could not be loaded" so I presume the files were found but are > > not usable for some reason. Or is it that they were not found. These are > > the full paths: > > > > 507.9 kb /usr/lib64/dssi/zynaddsubfx.so (from distro rpm) > > 23.1 kb /usr/lib64/dssi/fluyidsynth-dssi.so (from distro rpm) > > 73.2 kb /usr/local/lib64/dssi/fluyidsynth-dssi.so (from source tarball) > > > > What is the workaround? Can I edit these paths into some rosegarden > > config file or place copies/links where rosegarden expects to see them? > > I encountered the same problem a while ago. Rosegarden does not look in > lib64 for DSSI and LADSPA plugins. An easy workaround is to place > symlinks in /usr/lib. > > Assuming that /usr/lib64/dssi exists, from within /usr/lib (create the > directory if it doesn't exist) type the following: > >ln -s /usr/lib64/dssi dssi > In order to use LADSPA plugins, the following will work: >ln -s /usr/lib64/ladspa ladspa Thanks, got that done & 12.04 is now firing on all cylinders (or almost) on OpenSUSE-12.2 with synth plugins. The ladspa directory was already there (probably from one of my desperate tarball src installs) but the distro 64 bit folder was much more densely populated so I swapped it over. I still need to use GenMidi 43-cello and 57-trumpet equivalents of which I can't find in any synth plugin, and Zyn-Synth "Misc-Bells-2" which seems to be dead in the (equvalent?) Zyn synth plugin. -- Everyone hates slow websites. So do we. Make your web apps faster with AppDynamics Download AppDynamics Lite for free today: http://p.sf.net/sfu/appdyn_sfd2d_oct ___ Rosegarden-user mailing list Rosegarden-user@lists.sourceforge.net - use the link below to unsubscribe https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rosegarden-user
Re: [Rosegarden-user] Synth plugin *.so files not found or unusable [12.04]
On Sun, 21 Oct 2012, Tim Munro wrote: > Assuming that /usr/lib64/dssi exists, from within /usr/lib (create the > directory if it doesn't exist) type the following: > > ln -s /usr/lib64/dssi dssi > > In order to use LADSPA plugins, the following will work: > > ln -s /usr/lib64/ladspa ladspa Before our friend starts asking more questions: You need to be root to be able to do that. And you don't have to cd to the /usr/lib directory if you type: ln -s /usr/lib64/dssi /usr/lib/dssi ln -s /usr/lib64/ladspa /usr/lib/ladspa -- MT -- Everyone hates slow websites. So do we. Make your web apps faster with AppDynamics Download AppDynamics Lite for free today: http://p.sf.net/sfu/appdyn_sfd2d_oct ___ Rosegarden-user mailing list Rosegarden-user@lists.sourceforge.net - use the link below to unsubscribe https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rosegarden-user
Re: [Rosegarden-user] Synth plugin *.so files not found or unusable [12.04]
On 10/21/2012 08:30 PM, Tim Munro wrote: > I've attached a patch I've been using. Good explanation of the issue Tim. Hopefully that will get our friend going. Meanwhile, I applied and committed your patch, and that should really help some folks out down the line. Keep'em coming. Thanks. -- D. Michael McIntyre -- Everyone hates slow websites. So do we. Make your web apps faster with AppDynamics Download AppDynamics Lite for free today: http://p.sf.net/sfu/appdyn_sfd2d_oct ___ Rosegarden-user mailing list Rosegarden-user@lists.sourceforge.net - use the link below to unsubscribe https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rosegarden-user
Re: [Rosegarden-user] Synth plugin *.so files not found or unusable [12.04]
> OpenSUSE-12.2/64 & PhenomII box
>
> Version 11.11.42-51.20 showed plugins in the lists but didn't do
> anything with them & clicking edit on any of them in
> Studio>Manage-Synth-Plugins had no effect (I did wait). So I just
> installed 12.04 from source tarball after telling it to look for the
> Qt material under /usr/lib64/qt4. This one may or may not be able to
> deal with plugins but it cannot find(?) them.
>
> Plugins not found
> The following audio plugins could not be loaded
> FluidSynth-DSSI (from fluidsynth-dssi.so)
> ZASF (from zynaddsubfx.so)
>
> It says "could not be loaded" so I presume the files were found but are
> not usable for some reason. Or is it that they were not found. These are
> the full paths:
>
> 507.9 kb /usr/lib64/dssi/zynaddsubfx.so (from distro rpm)
> 23.1 kb /usr/lib64/dssi/fluyidsynth-dssi.so (from distro rpm)
> 73.2 kb /usr/local/lib64/dssi/fluyidsynth-dssi.so (from source tarball)
>
> What is the workaround? Can I edit these paths into some rosegarden
> config file or place copies/links where rosegarden expects to see them?
I encountered the same problem a while ago. Rosegarden does not look in
lib64 for DSSI and LADSPA plugins. An easy workaround is to place
symlinks in /usr/lib.
Assuming that /usr/lib64/dssi exists, from within /usr/lib (create the
directory if it doesn't exist) type the following:
ln -s /usr/lib64/dssi dssi
In order to use LADSPA plugins, the following will work:
ln -s /usr/lib64/ladspa ladspa
A better fix, of course, is to patch src/sound/DSSIPluginFactory.cpp and
src/sound/LADSPAPluginFactory.cpp with additional path information.
I've attached a patch I've been using.
Tim Munro
--- src/sound/DSSIPluginFactory.cpp 2012-09-23 09:48:35.0 -0700
+++ src/sound/DSSIPluginFactory.cpp 2012-10-21 16:41:34.428288434 -0700
@@ -234,7 +234,8 @@
path = cpath;
if (path == "") {
-path = "/usr/local/lib/dssi:/usr/lib/dssi";
+// path = "/usr/local/lib/dssi:/usr/lib/dssi";
+path =
"/usr/local/lib/dssi:/usr/lib/dssi:/usr/local/lib64/dssi:/usr/lib64/dssi";
char *home = getenv("HOME");
if (home)
path = std::string(home) + "/.dssi:" + path;
--- src/sound/LADSPAPluginFactory.cpp 2012-09-23 09:48:35.0 -0700
+++ src/sound/LADSPAPluginFactory.cpp 2012-10-21 16:46:02.506296730 -0700
@@ -565,7 +565,8 @@
path = cpath;
if (path == "") {
-path = "/usr/local/lib/ladspa:/usr/lib/ladspa";
+// path = "/usr/local/lib/ladspa:/usr/lib/ladspa";
+path =
"/usr/local/lib/ladspa:/usr/lib/ladspa:/usr/local/lib64/ladspa:/usr/lib64/ladspa";
char *home = getenv("HOME");
if (home)
path = std::string(home) + "/.ladspa:" + path;
@@ -753,9 +754,11 @@
std::vector path;
for (size_t i = 0; i < pluginPath.size(); ++i) {
-if (pluginPath[i].contains("/lib/")) {
+// if (pluginPath[i].contains("/lib/")) {
+if (pluginPath[i].contains("/lib/") ||
pluginPath[i].contains("/lib64/")) {
QString p(pluginPath[i]);
p.replace("/lib/", "/share/");
+p.replace("/lib64/", "/share/");
path.push_back(p);
// std::cerr <<
"LADSPAPluginFactory::generateFallbackCategories: path element " << p <<
std::endl;
}
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[Rosegarden-user] Synth plugin *.so files not found or unusable [12.04]
OpenSUSE-12.2/64 & PhenomII box Version 11.11.42-51.20 showed plugins in the lists but didn't do anything with them & clicking edit on any of them in Studio>Manage-Synth-Plugins had no effect (I did wait). So I just installed 12.04 from source tarball after telling it to look for the Qt material under /usr/lib64/qt4. This one may or may not be able to deal with plugins but it cannot find(?) them. Plugins not found The following audio plugins could not be loaded FluidSynth-DSSI (from fluidsynth-dssi.so) ZASF (from zynaddsubfx.so) It says "could not be loaded" so I presume the files were found but are not usable for some reason. Or is it that they were not found. These are the full paths: 507.9 kb /usr/lib64/dssi/zynaddsubfx.so (from distro rpm) 23.1 kb /usr/lib64/dssi/fluyidsynth-dssi.so (from distro rpm) 73.2 kb /usr/local/lib64/dssi/fluyidsynth-dssi.so (from source tarball) What is the workaround? Can I edit these paths into some rosegarden config file or place copies/links where rosegarden expects to see them? -- Everyone hates slow websites. So do we. Make your web apps faster with AppDynamics Download AppDynamics Lite for free today: http://p.sf.net/sfu/appdyn_sfd2d_oct ___ Rosegarden-user mailing list Rosegarden-user@lists.sourceforge.net - use the link below to unsubscribe https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rosegarden-user
