Re: [Rosegarden-user] Looping
On 8/19/19 4:46 AM, axs203 . wrote: Rosegarden requires a shift key ( from memory) to be held and the actual size above the ruler to drag out a loop range is quite narrow vertically. I've opened feature request #481 to track this. Looks pretty easy to fix. https://sourceforge.net/p/rosegarden/feature-requests/481/ Ted. ___ Rosegarden-user mailing list Rosegarden-user@lists.sourceforge.net - use the link below to unsubscribe https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rosegarden-user
Re: [Rosegarden-user] Looping
On 19/08/19 10:46, axs203 . wrote: Hi there Forgive me for coming in just like this as a new user. Over the years I've followed RosegardenI was there with Studio2Go.it's a lovely looking program and I could really use it day to day..the only thing that I find very fiddly with the software is drawing a loop range. A lot of sequencers make this harder than it should be in my opinion. Rosegarden requires a shift key ( from memory) to be held and the actual size above the ruler to drag out a loop range is quite narrow vertically.I find it most fiddly and it always has irked me about the excellent sequencer. Interesting... it is actually the way I always use to create (and de-activate) loops most, maybe because I'm a bit of a keyboard shortcut 'aficionado', and I like that it's consistent in all views and the fact you can quickly 'de-activate a loop' by shift+clicking (without dragging) anywhere on the loop range. Also horizontally it is 'quantized to a quarter so it's easy to set up measures and beats. Of course configure-ability of vertical heights (including said range ruler, tempo ruler, tracks, would be really nice (and somewhat intersects with discussions about higher resolution screens. Do you think this could be discussed for your opinion please? If there was a way of just going up to the top, having a nice wide vertical loop row, just dragging and dropping with one mouse button to set the start and end - without needing the keyboard or pixel perfect precision) - it would be much better. Looping is something I personally do a lot in sequencers and if it's not easy to use I don't use them. It's a shame as it stops me from from enjoying what is an excellent Linux native sequencer. Another way of quickly setting up a loop involves the use of the Transport window (View > Show Transport - or if you can concede to a keyboard shortcut, 't' toggles it). once that's visible you can set the in and out loop points respectively with the two buttons to the left(/right of the loop on/off button. I know you don't seem to like using a (QUERTY) keyboard, but a very quick way of doing it for measures is move around with PAGEUP and PAGEDOWN to the start/end of the loop, then set start/end from the transport window. Also, one advantage of activating/deactivating a loop with the transport is that when you deactivate the loop from the transport window is that in this way the loop range is 'remembered' for next time you want to re-activate it. Personally I actually think (did I mention I'm a keyboard guy? :) ) it would be nice to have keyboard shortcuts to set loop start/end and activate/deactivate together with the time navigation. Finally, rosegarden can be hooked to any JACK transport source and that could be used as a looping master, but that might be overkill... Hope this helps. Lorenzo. Thanks for listening! Mike ___ Rosegarden-user mailing list Rosegarden-user@lists.sourceforge.net - use the link below to unsubscribe https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rosegarden-user ___ Rosegarden-user mailing list Rosegarden-user@lists.sourceforge.net - use the link below to unsubscribe https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rosegarden-user
Re: [Rosegarden-user] Looping
For the fumble fingered, numerically entered start and end bar positions might
be easier.
{not that I know anyone like that}
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Re: [Rosegarden-user] Looping
On 05/16/2016 05:49 AM, david wrote: > At 1920x1080 on a 15" laptop screen, it's OK. On a 4K screen, might be a > whole different story. It would be interesting to see what happens to Rosegarden on a 4k or 5k screen. I almost wish I had bought that iMac I was checking out back when I was in the app business that last time. I gotta admit everything HD looks like crap after spending some time with one of those delicious screens. Too expensive. > Thanks for all the different ways! Now is there a way to, say, repeat a > segment a specified number of times while making it show up in a score > wrapped with repeat signs? Like a verse segment with 3 verses, followed > by a chorus segment? Position your chorus segment such that the verse segment has exactly enough room to wrap three times. -- D. Michael McIntyre -- Mobile security can be enabling, not merely restricting. Employees who bring their own devices (BYOD) to work are irked by the imposition of MDM restrictions. Mobile Device Manager Plus allows you to control only the apps on BYO-devices by containerizing them, leaving personal data untouched! https://ad.doubleclick.net/ddm/clk/304595813;131938128;j ___ Rosegarden-user mailing list Rosegarden-user@lists.sourceforge.net - use the link below to unsubscribe https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rosegarden-user
Re: [Rosegarden-user] Looping
On 05/15/2016 09:15 AM, Lorenzo Sutton wrote: > On 15/05/16 16:11, Abrolag wrote: >> On Sun, 15 May 2016 08:54:02 +0100 >> Mike Rose wrote: >> >>> Hi there >>> A remember using Rosegarden many years ago now. >>> I've followed developments. It's turned into a really good sequencer. >>> There are a lot of things I love about it.. >>> >>> One thing that stopped me using it concerned looping. I found it so >>> fiddly I gave up. >>> IMO the ruler at the top of the screen is much too narrow vertically. >>> I've come back after many years and installed it and still see the same >>> thing is there. I wish there was a way of making the ruler a lot bigger >>> vertically. > > Personally I find the ruler the right size balance between usefulness > and unobtrusiveness... But I am 'still' at a 1368 resolution, so no > super-duper-hd display here :) At 1920x1080 on a 15" laptop screen, it's OK. On a 4K screen, might be a whole different story. >>> In a lot of sequencers if you want to loop a section you just drag/draw >>> easily on the ruler and let go of the mouse and a couple of loop markers >>> are created with automatic looping switched on. It makes looping a no >>> brainer. >>> I reckon Rosegarden would benefit from this. >>> >>> Looping is common activity in sequencers when you are building up a >>> track. I find I want to use the sequencer but this is a show stopper for me. >>> >>> What do you think. It could just be me! > > [...] > >> There is a sneaky way you can get effective looping of complete bars. >> >> Once you've got the section you want to loop in place, highlight just that >> segment and switch on repeat. Where you want the loop to stop, insert another >> segment. An 'empty' segment will simply stop the loop, but if you highlight >> that segment and switch on repeat, away you go again with just the new >> segment. > > > > Put segments on different tracks and you can give them different loop > times :) > > > > Yes, repeat of individual segments is a great feature, especially the > fact that you can repeat segments individually (e.g. imagine a verse + > chorus). > > That said, it is different from looping sections of a whole song which > as Mike says has many use cases. > Another way to set the loop range is through the Transport bar which is > toggled with the 't' key. > To quickly set a point at exact measure limits another > (not-so-well-known?) feature is that if you press PAG-UP and PAG-DOWN > keys in Rosegarden you alway move backward/forward exactly at measures > (I use this really a lot in general) so you can precisely move to the > start of your range, click on the start loop range button (leftwards > arrow at the left of the loop toggle button) etc. Thanks for all the different ways! Now is there a way to, say, repeat a segment a specified number of times while making it show up in a score wrapped with repeat signs? Like a verse segment with 3 verses, followed by a chorus segment? -- David W. Jones gn...@hawaii.rr.com authenticity, honesty, community http://dancingtreefrog.com -- Mobile security can be enabling, not merely restricting. Employees who bring their own devices (BYOD) to work are irked by the imposition of MDM restrictions. Mobile Device Manager Plus allows you to control only the apps on BYO-devices by containerizing them, leaving personal data untouched! https://ad.doubleclick.net/ddm/clk/304595813;131938128;j ___ Rosegarden-user mailing list Rosegarden-user@lists.sourceforge.net - use the link below to unsubscribe https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rosegarden-user
Re: [Rosegarden-user] Looping
On 15/05/16 16:11, Abrolag wrote: > On Sun, 15 May 2016 08:54:02 +0100 > Mike Rose wrote: > >> Hi there >> A remember using Rosegarden many years ago now. >> I've followed developments. It's turned into a really good sequencer. >> There are a lot of things I love about it.. >> >> One thing that stopped me using it concerned looping. I found it so >> fiddly I gave up. >> IMO the ruler at the top of the screen is much too narrow vertically. >> I've come back after many years and installed it and still see the same >> thing is there. I wish there was a way of making the ruler a lot bigger >> vertically. Personally I find the ruler the right size balance between usefulness and unobtrusiveness... But I am 'still' at a 1368 resolution, so no super-duper-hd display here :) >> >> In a lot of sequencers if you want to loop a section you just drag/draw >> easily on the ruler and let go of the mouse and a couple of loop markers >> are created with automatic looping switched on. It makes looping a no >> brainer. >> I reckon Rosegarden would benefit from this. >> >> Looping is common activity in sequencers when you are building up a >> track. I find I want to use the sequencer but this is a show stopper for me. >> >> What do you think. It could just be me! [...] > There is a sneaky way you can get effective looping of complete bars. > > Once you've got the section you want to loop in place, highlight just that > segment and switch on repeat. Where you want the loop to stop, insert another > segment. An 'empty' segment will simply stop the loop, but if you highlight > that segment and switch on repeat, away you go again with just the new > segment. > > Put segments on different tracks and you can give them different loop times :) > > Yes, repeat of individual segments is a great feature, especially the fact that you can repeat segments individually (e.g. imagine a verse + chorus). That said, it is different from looping sections of a whole song which as Mike says has many use cases. Another way to set the loop range is through the Transport bar which is toggled with the 't' key. To quickly set a point at exact measure limits another (not-so-well-known?) feature is that if you press PAG-UP and PAG-DOWN keys in Rosegarden you alway move backward/forward exactly at measures (I use this really a lot in general) so you can precisely move to the start of your range, click on the start loop range button (leftwards arrow at the left of the loop toggle button) etc. My two cents. Lorenzo. -- Mobile security can be enabling, not merely restricting. Employees who bring their own devices (BYOD) to work are irked by the imposition of MDM restrictions. Mobile Device Manager Plus allows you to control only the apps on BYO-devices by containerizing them, leaving personal data untouched! https://ad.doubleclick.net/ddm/clk/304595813;131938128;j ___ Rosegarden-user mailing list Rosegarden-user@lists.sourceforge.net - use the link below to unsubscribe https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rosegarden-user
Re: [Rosegarden-user] Looping
On Sun, 15 May 2016 08:54:02 +0100 Mike Rose wrote: > Hi there > A remember using Rosegarden many years ago now. > I've followed developments. It's turned into a really good sequencer. > There are a lot of things I love about it.. > > One thing that stopped me using it concerned looping. I found it so > fiddly I gave up. > IMO the ruler at the top of the screen is much too narrow vertically. > I've come back after many years and installed it and still see the same > thing is there. I wish there was a way of making the ruler a lot bigger > vertically. > > In a lot of sequencers if you want to loop a section you just drag/draw > easily on the ruler and let go of the mouse and a couple of loop markers > are created with automatic looping switched on. It makes looping a no > brainer. > I reckon Rosegarden would benefit from this. > > Looping is common activity in sequencers when you are building up a > track. I find I want to use the sequencer but this is a show stopper for me. > > What do you think. It could just be me! > > Thanks > Mike There is a sneaky way you can get effective looping of complete bars. Once you've got the section you want to loop in place, highlight just that segment and switch on repeat. Where you want the loop to stop, insert another segment. An 'empty' segment will simply stop the loop, but if you highlight that segment and switch on repeat, away you go again with just the new segment. Put segments on different tracks and you can give them different loop times :) -- W J G -- Mobile security can be enabling, not merely restricting. Employees who bring their own devices (BYOD) to work are irked by the imposition of MDM restrictions. Mobile Device Manager Plus allows you to control only the apps on BYO-devices by containerizing them, leaving personal data untouched! https://ad.doubleclick.net/ddm/clk/304595813;131938128;j ___ Rosegarden-user mailing list Rosegarden-user@lists.sourceforge.net - use the link below to unsubscribe https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rosegarden-user
