[PATCH] Random port & async bug fix (was: Re: [PATCH] remove deprecated call in WebServer.java)

2004-06-17 Thread Paul Guyot
Aux environs du 16/06/04 à 18:49 -0700, sous le titre "Re: [PATCH] remove deprecated call in WebServer.java", Daniel Rall prit sa plus belle plume pour écrire les mots suivants: Thanks, committed in CVS rev 1.26. Daniel, while you're at it, would you mind committing my 1 year old patch about a r

Re: DateTool not ISO8601 compliant

2004-06-17 Thread John Wilson
On 17 Jun 2004, at 08:02, Jochen Wiedmann wrote: Hi, the DateFormat used in the DateTool is supporting only a subset of ISO 8601 date/times. In particular time zones are missing, likewise one must not use milliseconds. The XML-RPC spec (http://www.xml-rpc.com/spec see the last but one bullet poi

Re: DateTool not ISO8601 compliant

2004-06-17 Thread Jochen Wiedmann
On Do, 2004-06-17 at 09:36, John Wilson wrote: > The XML-RPC spec (http://www.xml-rpc.com/spec see the last but one > bullet point) says that timezones may not be present in a date. The > generally accepted interpretation of the spec is that only the precise > subset of ISO 8601 date/times give

Re: DateTool not ISO8601 compliant

2004-06-17 Thread John Wilson
On 17 Jun 2004, at 09:20, Jochen Wiedmann wrote: On Do, 2004-06-17 at 09:36, John Wilson wrote: The XML-RPC spec (http://www.xml-rpc.com/spec see the last but one bullet point) says that timezones may not be present in a date. The generally accepted interpretation of the spec is that only the preci

Re: DateTool not ISO8601 compliant

2004-06-17 Thread Jochen Wiedmann
On Do, 2004-06-17 at 10:24, John Wilson wrote: > The example in the spec does not include milliseconds - the generally > accepted interpretation of the spec (i.e. by XML-RPC implementers) is > that they are not permitted. If so, that leaves still more room for vendor extensions ... :-)

Re: DateTool not ISO8601 compliant

2004-06-17 Thread John Wilson
On 17 Jun 2004, at 09:40, Jochen Wiedmann wrote: On Do, 2004-06-17 at 10:24, John Wilson wrote: The example in the spec does not include milliseconds - the generally accepted interpretation of the spec (i.e. by XML-RPC implementers) is that they are not permitted. If so, that leaves still more roo

Re: DateTool not ISO8601 compliant

2004-06-17 Thread Jochen Wiedmann
On Do, 2004-06-17 at 10:46, John Wilson wrote: > The strengths of XML-RPC are its simplicity and interoperability with a > very wide range of other implementations. The creator of the spec and > the person who claims ownership of the XMl-RPC trademark has repeatedly > and vociferously stated th

Spec incompatibility re: Doubles

2004-06-17 Thread Matt Mower
Hi folks, About 3 weeks ago I posted about a problem with Apache XML-RPC encoding Doubles using scientific notation, which does not conform to the spec, but I didn't see any response. I don't want to keep pestering you if I'm in the wrong place. Can you let me know where I should be reporting this

Re: Patch: Null-values as a vendor extension

2004-06-17 Thread John Wilson
Apache XML-RPC (or at least Helma XML-RPC which became Apache) used to implement . It was removed at the request of the author of the spec (Dave Winer). I do not believe that this should be reintroduced. John Wilson The Wilson Partnership http://www.wilson.co.uk

Re: Patch: Null-values as a vendor extension

2004-06-17 Thread Jochen Wiedmann
On Do, 2004-06-17 at 11:59, John Wilson wrote: > Apache XML-RPC (or at least Helma XML-RPC which became Apache) used to > implement . It was removed at the request of the author of the > spec (Dave Winer). I do not believe that this should be reintroduced. If so, how do you explain http://

Re: Patch: Null-values as a vendor extension

2004-06-17 Thread John Wilson
On 17 Jun 2004, at 11:20, Jochen Wiedmann wrote: On Do, 2004-06-17 at 11:59, John Wilson wrote: Apache XML-RPC (or at least Helma XML-RPC which became Apache) used to implement . It was removed at the request of the author of the spec (Dave Winer). I do not believe that this should be reintroduced.

Re: Patch: Null-values as a vendor extension

2004-06-17 Thread Jochen Wiedmann
On Do, 2004-06-17 at 12:35, John Wilson wrote: > "MinML-RPC is a minimal XML-RPC implementation. This is very > interesting, but I have some pushback. There is no such thing as "the > extension." If we added it, it would break at least one > implementation. Please appreciate the bigger picture

Re: [PATCH] .cvsignore good-ness

2004-06-17 Thread Ryan Bloom
I'm using ant to build everything. As for the .class files in the examples/echo directory, I created them using javac, because I didn't see where they were built through the build system. Ryan On Wed, 16 Jun 2004, Daniel Rall wrote: > Ryan Bloom wrote: > > I am getting a couple of files in m

Re: Patch: Null-values as a vendor extension

2004-06-17 Thread John Wilson
On 17 Jun 2004, at 12:00, Jochen Wiedmann wrote: On Do, 2004-06-17 at 12:35, John Wilson wrote: "MinML-RPC is a minimal XML-RPC implementation. This is very interesting, but I have some pushback. There is no such thing as "the extension." If we added it, it would break at least one implementation.

Re: Patch: Null-values as a vendor extension

2004-06-17 Thread Steve Quint
At 1:00 PM +0200 6/17/04, Jochen Wiedmann wrote: However, I still see a difference between an extension, which is *very* clearly declared as violating the SPEC and turned on the users behalf only and the addition of a "nil" element without further notice. In my post yesterday, I was not referring t

Re: Patch: Null-values as a vendor extension

2004-06-17 Thread Jochen Wiedmann
On Do, 2004-06-17 at 16:41, John Wilson wrote: > Others would disagree - Sun's reaction to Microsoft's Java extensions > would be a good example. No, it isn't. When using Visual J++ or whatever it was called, you've never been aware when leaving the standard. > Vendor specific extensions is an

Re: Patch: Null-values as a vendor extension

2004-06-17 Thread Jochen Wiedmann
On Do, 2004-06-17 at 21:37, Steve Quint wrote: > In my post yesterday, I was not referring to null values as in > "" or "", but rather to values such as "", and > "". Should these values be considered valid? is definitely invalid. Keep in mind, that is equivalent to . In other words, this wo