Re: [rspec-users] Reason for _spec.rb convention

2007-09-04 Thread Ashley Moran
On 3 Sep 2007, at 15:03, David Chelimsky wrote: Not used Autotest You SHOULD! Why do I have a feeling I will now try it out and go WHY OH WHY DIDN'T I USE THIS BEFORE??? ___ rspec-users mailing list rspec-users@rubyforge.org

Re: [rspec-users] Deprecating the mocking framework?

2007-09-04 Thread Jonathan Linowes
Personally, I dont want to become an expert at the range of possible testing and mocking tools. I just want a solid framework to get my work done, recommended by experts like you. And the less different components I need to install and maintain, the better. So I prefer the integrated

[rspec-users] specing helpers fails on restful routes

2007-09-04 Thread Surendra
Hi, I am trying to spec helper methods in a Rails project, but it seems the specs fail with the error: You might have expected an instance of Array. The error occurred while evaluating nil. if the restful routes helper are used either in spec files, or the helper file. What can I be doing

Re: [rspec-users] specing helpers fails on restful routes

2007-09-04 Thread lancecarlson
Yes I was about to forward you to my blog post Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile -Original Message- From: Surendra [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2007 17:36:52 To:rspec-users@rubyforge.org Subject: Re: [rspec-users] specing helpers fails on restful routes Nevermind, i just saw an

Re: [rspec-users] Model Specs: Fixtures vs Mocks + Stubs?

2007-09-04 Thread David Chelimsky
On 9/4/07, Lance Carlson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What is the general opinion about fixtures versus mocking and stubbing in model specs? I heard from agile on IRC that they save the database testing for integration testing, but I also see that the caboose sample applicaiton uses fixtures. I

Re: [rspec-users] Model Specs: Fixtures vs Mocks + Stubs?

2007-09-04 Thread Lance Carlson
Ok, so to extend this issue, I'm attempting to use mocks and stubs on my model specs. I've got some questions though.. here is my code: module UserSpecHelper def mock_user(user) @user = mock_model(User) if user == :lance || user == :account_owner

Re: [rspec-users] Model Specs: Fixtures vs Mocks + Stubs?

2007-09-04 Thread Lance Carlson
Or am I to assume that rails is doing it's job and that the associations I created in my models are working as they should? On 9/4/07, Lance Carlson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ok, so to extend this issue, I'm attempting to use mocks and stubs on my model specs. I've got some questions though..

[rspec-users] Failure Messages in RSpec

2007-09-04 Thread Geoffrey Wiseman
Having used JUnit and Test::Unit, I'm quite used to having the ability to insert a failure message, which helps when tests fail. For instance, the example RSpec that is generated for a model class specifies that the model class is valid. Assuming this were supposed to be true, and it failed,

Re: [rspec-users] Failure Messages in RSpec

2007-09-04 Thread David Chelimsky
On 9/4/07, Geoffrey Wiseman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Having used JUnit and Test::Unit, I'm quite used to having the ability to insert a failure message, which helps when tests fail. For instance, the example RSpec that is generated for a model class specifies that the model class is valid.

Re: [rspec-users] Rake tasks getting in the way of edge (uses gem instead)

2007-09-04 Thread David Chelimsky
On 9/4/07, Pat Maddox [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So I'd been running gem releases of rspec for the past several months, and I installed edge rspec so that I can use Story Runner. I'm running into a problem because I've got a couple rake tasks that reference spec/rake/raketask. If I try to run

[rspec-users] Failure Messages in RSpec

2007-09-04 Thread Geoffrey Wiseman
I come from the same background as you, so I hear where you're coming from. We made a conscious decision, however, not to support custom messages almost two years ago and I'm not sure if its ever even come up before. If it has, it was a long time ago. [nod] Perhaps as I get into the

Re: [rspec-users] Rake tasks getting in the way of edge (uses gem instead)

2007-09-04 Thread Pat Maddox
On 9/4/07, David Chelimsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 9/4/07, Pat Maddox [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So I'd been running gem releases of rspec for the past several months, and I installed edge rspec so that I can use Story Runner. I'm running into a problem because I've got a couple rake

Re: [rspec-users] Failure Messages in RSpec

2007-09-04 Thread David Chelimsky
On 9/4/07, Geoffrey Wiseman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I come from the same background as you, so I hear where you're coming from. We made a conscious decision, however, not to support custom messages almost two years ago and I'm not sure if its ever even come up before. If it has, it was a

Re: [rspec-users] Failure Messages in RSpec

2007-09-04 Thread Jay Levitt
Shane Mingins wrote: On 5/09/2007, at 8:51 AM, Geoffrey Wiseman wrote: Using this as an example, if a new validation rule is added, this test will fail without indicating /why/. Sure, I can get that answer in other ways, but I'd hate to discover things like: it should be valid with

Re: [rspec-users] Failure Messages in RSpec

2007-09-04 Thread Chad Humphries
I generally write custom expectation matchers when I want more specific information on failure scenarios. Granted this might not work in all scenarios (taking time to write a custom matcher I mean), but for most things it has made it very nice. -Chad On Sep 4, 2007, at 5:08 PM, Jay Levitt

Re: [rspec-users] 1.05 to 1.08

2007-09-04 Thread Shane Mingins
On 4/09/2007, at 3:44 PM, David Chelimsky wrote: I am going to guess that it's something like this: You have a nil object when you didn't expect it! You might have expected an instance of Array. The error occurred while evaluating nil. If not, please post the error (good idea to do that

Re: [rspec-users] 1.05 to 1.08

2007-09-04 Thread David Chelimsky
On 9/4/07, Shane Mingins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 4/09/2007, at 3:44 PM, David Chelimsky wrote: I am going to guess that it's something like this: You have a nil object when you didn't expect it! You might have expected an instance of Array. The error occurred while evaluating

Re: [rspec-users] Reason for _spec.rb convention

2007-09-04 Thread Dan North
Ashley Moran wrote: On 3 Sep 2007, at 15:37, David Chelimsky wrote: But it is an interesting idea that we should stay open to. Perhaps more compelling reasons for such a change will appear in the future. I like the sound of .spec in a way. It shortens the filenames which is

Re: [rspec-users] Failure Messages in RSpec

2007-09-04 Thread Luis Lavena
On 9/4/07, Ben Mabey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Maybe this is what your thinking? http://opensoul.org/2007/4/18/rspec-model-should-be_valid That should be the default matcher for be_valid... I use that and help me pinpoint some brittle specs (all related to new attributes added later in the