Re: [rspec-users] Cucumber for large projects

2009-03-03 Thread Mischa Fierer
Speed will possibly become a big issue once you get above 1-2k steps or so. Testjour was written to solve this: http://github.com/brynary/testjour/tree/master While I haven't been able to use it myself, since I work mostly from home, it apparently radically reduces the time it takes to run

Re: [rspec-users] Cucumber for large projects

2009-03-03 Thread aidy lewis
Hi Matt/Dan 2009/3/2 Matt Wynne m...@mattwynne.net: At the moment, IMO, the tools for feeding back the features to non-technical people are pretty immature. My colleague Dan Lucraft wrote a tool which produces a nicely-formatted PDF document from your features folder[1] which is great, but

Re: [rspec-users] Cucumber for large projects

2009-03-03 Thread Matt Wynne
On 3 Mar 2009, at 10:06, aidy lewis wrote: Hi Matt/Dan 2009/3/2 Matt Wynne m...@mattwynne.net: At the moment, IMO, the tools for feeding back the features to non- technical people are pretty immature. My colleague Dan Lucraft wrote a tool which produces a nicely-formatted PDF document

Re: [rspec-users] Cucumber for large projects

2009-03-03 Thread Pat Maddox
On Tue, Mar 3, 2009 at 2:06 AM, aidy lewis aidy.le...@googlemail.com wrote: Hi Matt/Dan 2009/3/2 Matt Wynne m...@mattwynne.net: At the moment, IMO, the tools for feeding back the features to non-technical people are pretty immature. My colleague Dan Lucraft wrote a tool which produces a

Re: [rspec-users] Cucumber for large projects

2009-03-03 Thread Rich Morin
At 16:41 -0800 3/3/09, Pat Maddox wrote: Not quite. Some customers don't want to sit down next to you as you write the stories. In that situation, we'll talk about features, I take notes, then I write up the features and ship them via email or wiki. They're still involved in the creation of

Re: [rspec-users] Cucumber for large projects

2009-03-03 Thread Remi Gagnon
Let me share my experience. On my side we do produce 3 documents before starting with rspec. 1- A web designer creates a design for a screen in conjunction with the marketing team and the analyst assigned to the this feature. The marketing dep, acts as the customer. 2-The analyst produce a

Re: [rspec-users] Cucumber for large projects

2009-03-03 Thread Stephen Eley
On Tue, Mar 3, 2009 at 5:06 AM, aidy lewis aidy.le...@googlemail.com wrote: To me the user\customer should be involved in the creation of the stories and the acceptance criteria and by producing a pdf later in the cycle for those stakeholders to read and understand may be argued as something

Re: [rspec-users] Cucumber for large projects

2009-03-03 Thread Rich Morin
At 21:21 -0500 3/3/09, Remi Gagnon wrote: For now we are not having any tool to transfer stories-scenarios from our word doc to rspec file. If any of you have something for that, let me know. I don't have any software to offer, but I can offer a suggestion regarding process. If the word

Re: [rspec-users] Cucumber for large projects

2009-03-02 Thread aidy lewis
Hi Tom, We have written an extension that counts your tests and provides a link(s) to the failure backtrace in the Cucumber HTML. There seem to be issues when Cucumber writes to the HTML over around 800 steps, so we are waiting for version 0.2. Aidy On 26/02/2009, Tom ten Thij

Re: [rspec-users] Cucumber for large projects

2009-03-02 Thread Matt Wynne
On 26 Feb 2009, at 15:33, Tom ten Thij wrote: We will be using Cucumber for a fairly large project. Are there any areas that cucumber is lacking when there are many scenarios? I believe the best candidate for showing our client the scenario results is the html output. It strikes me that that

[rspec-users] Cucumber for large projects

2009-03-01 Thread Tom ten Thij
We will be using Cucumber for a fairly large project. Are there any areas that cucumber is lacking when there are many scenarios? I believe the best candidate for showing our client the scenario results is the html output. It strikes me that that becomes fairly cumbersome to check with many

Re: [rspec-users] Cucumber for large projects

2009-03-01 Thread James Byrne
Tom ten Thij wrote: We will be using Cucumber for a fairly large project. Are there any areas that cucumber is lacking when there are many scenarios? I believe the best candidate for showing our client the scenario results is the html output. It strikes me that that becomes fairly