Re: Rysnc Schedule

2007-07-19 Thread sparty2809

I guess I should have been clearer.  I know how to delete files/directories. 
I am just not sure how to delete say the 31st and so forth.  



Chuck Wolber wrote:
 
 On Wed, 18 Jul 2007, sparty2809 wrote:
 
 I understand how to do the rsync part, but how would I delete the files?
 
 In linux, you delete files with the rm command... In windows you'd 
 probably want to use deltree... Or, you could get really fancy and use 
 directed charges of thermite, although that might make it difficult to 
 re-use portions of the disk...
 
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Re: Rysnc Schedule

2007-07-19 Thread Rick Romero

/usr/bin/find /var/backup/* -mtime +30 -exec rm -rf {} \;

Anything older than 30 days gets deleted from /var/backup/

On Thu, 2007-07-19 at 05:46 -0700, sparty2809 wrote:
 I guess I should have been clearer.  I know how to delete files/directories. 
 I am just not sure how to delete say the 31st and so forth.  
 
 
 
 Chuck Wolber wrote:
  
  On Wed, 18 Jul 2007, sparty2809 wrote:
  
  I understand how to do the rsync part, but how would I delete the files?
  
  In linux, you delete files with the rm command... In windows you'd 
  probably want to use deltree... Or, you could get really fancy and use 
  directed charges of thermite, although that might make it difficult to 
  re-use portions of the disk...
  
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Re: Rysnc Schedule

2007-07-19 Thread Matt McCutchen

On 7/19/07, Rick Romero [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

/usr/bin/find /var/backup/* -mtime +30 -exec rm -rf {} \;

Anything older than 30 days gets deleted from /var/backup/


That's no good: it deletes individual files that happen to be older
than 30 days from even yesterday's backup.  This is better:

find /var/backup -maxdepth 1 -mtime +30 -exec rm -rf {} \;

Sparty2809, are you sure you don't want to use rsnapshot?  It does all
of this for you.

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Re: Rysnc Schedule

2007-07-19 Thread Rick Romero
On Thu, 2007-07-19 at 09:30 -0400, Matt McCutchen wrote:
 On 7/19/07, Rick Romero [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  /usr/bin/find /var/backup/* -mtime +30 -exec rm -rf {} \;
 
  Anything older than 30 days gets deleted from /var/backup/
 
 That's no good: it deletes individual files that happen to be older
 than 30 days from even yesterday's backup.  This is better:
 
 find /var/backup -maxdepth 1 -mtime +30 -exec rm -rf {} \;

Oh of course - that's what I get for copying an existing cronjob and not
thinking it through.

 Sparty2809, are you sure you don't want to use rsnapshot?  It does all
 of this for you.

I very well may use rsnapshot - I've been putting off trying to do a
rotation like that on my own, it looks like a great solution.

Rick

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Re: Rysnc Schedule

2007-07-19 Thread Matt McCutchen

On 7/19/07, Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Never used it before.  Does it have a gui?


No.  You edit the configuration file /etc/rsnapshot.conf and then run
rsnapshot from the command line with the name of the backup interval,
like rsnapshot daily.

Please don't be put off by having to edit a configuration file
yourself; it's pretty straightforward.  Just go through and replace
the samples with the paths and settings that you want to use.  There
are plenty of comments to guide you.

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Re: Rysnc Schedule

2007-07-19 Thread Matt McCutchen

On 7/19/07, Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I know how to use the command prompt, was just curious if it had a gui.


OK.  Please don't take any offense at my offering a little extra
support in case you were a user who needed it.


So this can backup for 30 days and once 30 days comes up, it will delete the
1st day and add the 31st?


Yes.  Just set a backup interval of daily with 30 snapshots in the
configuration file.  If you like, you can also add other intervals,
e.g., weekly snapshots for the past 10 weeks.

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Re: Rysnc Schedule

2007-07-19 Thread sparty2809

Sorry, I didn't mean to come off rude.  I appreciate the help.  I will look
into it and see how it works.

Thanks for all the suggestions.


Matt McCutchen-3 wrote:
 
 On 7/19/07, Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I know how to use the command prompt, was just curious if it had a gui.
 
 OK.  Please don't take any offense at my offering a little extra
 support in case you were a user who needed it.
 
 So this can backup for 30 days and once 30 days comes up, it will delete
 the
 1st day and add the 31st?
 
 Yes.  Just set a backup interval of daily with 30 snapshots in the
 configuration file.  If you like, you can also add other intervals,
 e.g., weekly snapshots for the past 10 weeks.
 
 Matt
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Re: Rysnc Schedule

2007-07-19 Thread Rick Romero


About 4 hours after my reply I had a functional rsnapshot install -  
what took me so long (besides having 'real' work to do ;) was trying  
to figure out how to split up my vpopmail/domains directories so the  
rsync wouldn't take so long (because of so many files/directories).


I ended up using the 'include_conf' directive, and dynamically  
creating a file with just backup points.


It seems like a great solution, and was easy to install and setup.

Thanks!

Rick

On Jul 19, 2007, at 6:09 PM, sparty2809 wrote:



Sorry, I didn't mean to come off rude.  I appreciate the help.  I  
will look

into it and see how it works.

Thanks for all the suggestions.


Matt McCutchen-3 wrote:


On 7/19/07, Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I know how to use the command prompt, was just curious if it had  
a gui.


OK.  Please don't take any offense at my offering a little extra
support in case you were a user who needed it.

So this can backup for 30 days and once 30 days comes up, it will  
delete

the
1st day and add the 31st?


Yes.  Just set a backup interval of daily with 30 snapshots in the
configuration file.  If you like, you can also add other intervals,
e.g., weekly snapshots for the past 10 weeks.

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Re: Rysnc Schedule

2007-07-18 Thread Matt McCutchen

On 7/18/07, sparty2809 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

What I want to do is use rsync to back up a folder to an external drive.

I would like to keep 30 days worth.

For example: I have backups of June 1 - June 30. Once July 1 comes along, I
want to keep June 2 - July 1 and delete June 1, and so forth.

Any ideas how I can accomplish this?


You can do this very easily with rsnapshot ( http://www.rsnapshot.org/
), a backup program built around rsync.  It manages a rotating set of
snapshots that all appear to be full, but unchanged files are
hard-linked from one snapshot to the next to save storage.  You would
configure it with a single backup point and a single interval,
daily, with 30 snapshots.

If space on the external disk is an issue, you could use rdiff-backup
( http://www.nongnu.org/rdiff-backup/ ) instead.  It represents old
versions of a file using a chain of backward deltas instead of full
copies.

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Re: Rysnc Schedule

2007-07-18 Thread Chuck Wolber
On Wed, 18 Jul 2007, sparty2809 wrote:

 
 What I want to do is use rsync to back up a folder to an external drive.
 
 I would like to keep 30 days worth.
 
 For example: I have backups of June 1 - June 30. Once July 1 comes 
 along, I want to keep June 2 - July 1 and delete June 1, and so forth.
 
 Any ideas how I can accomplish this?

Do the backups with rsync and write a shell script that runs every night 
that deletes the 31st (and greater) backup.

..Chuck..


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Re: Rysnc Schedule

2007-07-18 Thread sparty2809

I understand how to do the rsync part, but how would I delete the files?



Chuck Wolber wrote:
 
 On Wed, 18 Jul 2007, sparty2809 wrote:
 
 
 What I want to do is use rsync to back up a folder to an external drive.
 
 I would like to keep 30 days worth.
 
 For example: I have backups of June 1 - June 30. Once July 1 comes 
 along, I want to keep June 2 - July 1 and delete June 1, and so forth.
 
 Any ideas how I can accomplish this?
 
 Do the backups with rsync and write a shell script that runs every night 
 that deletes the 31st (and greater) backup.
 
 ..Chuck..
 
 
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Re: Rysnc Schedule

2007-07-18 Thread Chuck Wolber
On Wed, 18 Jul 2007, sparty2809 wrote:

 I understand how to do the rsync part, but how would I delete the files?

In linux, you delete files with the rm command... In windows you'd 
probably want to use deltree... Or, you could get really fancy and use 
directed charges of thermite, although that might make it difficult to 
re-use portions of the disk...

..Chuck..


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Re: Rysnc Schedule

2007-07-18 Thread Charles Marcus

On 7/18/2007, Chuck Wolber ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:

In linux, you delete files with the rm command...


OT follow-up...

Is there an alternate way to remove an entire directory *without* 
traversing the directory itself?


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Re: Rysnc Schedule

2007-07-18 Thread Matt McCutchen

On 7/18/07, Charles Marcus [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Is there an alternate way to remove an entire directory *without*
traversing the directory itself?


No filesystem that I know of provides one, although it would be great
to be able to issue a single unlink or rmdir call and have the
filesystem traverse the directory and free its insides in the
background.

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