Re: why not a gui for rsync
Hello, Try http://www.nasbackup.com it have windows GUI to Rsync and give you summary and status of your backup. Regards, Milutin Voinivich NasBackup Daniel Platteau wrote: I'm using rsync and I'm very glad, but, in some case, i'm not so happy. Some people are backing up the data with rsync but they have a lot of files, more than 10 and 20 Gb of data. We are using batch files and the task scheduling system of windows. It is difficult to see if the backup is well done, sometimes, they are error. We try to make some gui, one in java, an other in c++ and also one in delphi. The target was to make a service who can monitor the backup made with rsync and a gui that shown the state of the backup and allow the user to easily take back one file or, even, to take back old versions of the file. We are using rsync compiled with cygwin, the rsync software is launch in a shell and we try to collect the information in the master programm who have launched rsync. This way is maybe not the best way. My questions are : Is there a way to use the rsync protocol directly in a software without using rsync, like a dll with a lot of rsync functions. Is there some works in the world trying to make a good gui for rsync and to let all people using this very good method to make a backup. If somebody is interesting to create this gui, let me know -- Please use reply-all for most replies to avoid omitting the mailing list. To unsubscribe or change options: https://lists.samba.org/mailman/listinfo/rsync Before posting, read: http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
Re: why not a gui for rsync
At 00:04 01.10.2007 -0500, Robert wrote: snip Is there some works in the world trying to make a good gui for rsync and to let all people using this very good method to make a backup. If somebody is interesting to create this gui, let me know --Suresh Delta Copy: http://www.aboutmyip.com/AboutMyXApp/DeltaCopy.jsp It has a gui already. No need to reinvent the wheel. Delta Copy unfortunately only works in client/server mode. As I also need local mode this is no option (though it looks nice). So me too I still haven't found a simple, user-friendly GUI. bye Fabi -- To unsubscribe or change options: https://lists.samba.org/mailman/listinfo/rsync Before posting, read: http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
RE: why not a gui for rsync
There are times I use deltacopy locally. I have a couple clients backing up to removable hard disks with it. Just start the server service on the local machine. For the server's ip, type in 127.0.0.1 or localhost and you can backup locally with deltacopy. Deltacopy is the best gui for windows IMO. Plus, it supports e-mail notification which I utilize heavily. _ Stephen Zemlicka Integrated Computer Technologies PH. 608-558-5926 E-Mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Fabian Cenedese Sent: Monday, October 01, 2007 4:17 AM To: rsync@lists.samba.org Subject: Re: why not a gui for rsync At 00:04 01.10.2007 -0500, Robert wrote: snip Is there some works in the world trying to make a good gui for rsync and to let all people using this very good method to make a backup. If somebody is interesting to create this gui, let me know --Suresh Delta Copy: http://www.aboutmyip.com/AboutMyXApp/DeltaCopy.jsp It has a gui already. No need to reinvent the wheel. Delta Copy unfortunately only works in client/server mode. As I also need local mode this is no option (though it looks nice). So me too I still haven't found a simple, user-friendly GUI. bye Fabi -- To unsubscribe or change options: https://lists.samba.org/mailman/listinfo/rsync Before posting, read: http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html -- To unsubscribe or change options: https://lists.samba.org/mailman/listinfo/rsync Before posting, read: http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
RE: why not a gui for rsync
Regarding the recommendation: Delta Copy: http://www.aboutmyip.com/AboutMyXApp/DeltaCopy.jsp It has a gui already. No need to reinvent the wheel. I went over the FAQ and the documentation for Delta Copy. Delta Copy does not provide any means to continually monitor an on-going rsync process. The most they do is: | Question: What type of logging is available in DeltaCopy | | Answer: Besides the logging options available in Rsync, | DeltaCopy provides two additional logs: | | deltac.log - available on DeltaCopy client | DeltaService.log - available on DeltaCopy server | | deltac.log file contains information about the DeltaCopy | client. It logs a message when a profile is run and | notifications emails are sent to the user. | | DeltaService.log is available where DeltaCopy server is | installed and contains messages when service is started or | stopped. | | It is important to know that rsync supports additional logging | that can be configured by specifying additional parameters | either on DeltaCopy client or server. Please refer to rsync | documentation for more information about logging options | available for rsync. | | When rsync.exe is executed in the back-ground by DeltaCopy, it | generates status messages which are sent to standard output. | DeltaCopy captures these messages and sends them via email. Observe that Delta Copy relies on rsync itself to provide insight into the status of the on-going transaction. So the question remains: In regard to output, rsync has the following features: a) -v option with various levels of verbosity b) --stats c) --log-file=foo d) messages rsync prints to stdout e) messages rsync prints to stderr. Where can one find an explanation of the format, content and interpretation of the outputs (a-e)? Thanks, --Suresh -- To unsubscribe or change options: https://lists.samba.org/mailman/listinfo/rsync Before posting, read: http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
RE: why not a gui for rsync
What exactly are you looking for in monitoring it? The -v should give you a verbose output. If you want more details, I think you can specify multiple -v to give you a more verbose output. _ Stephen Zemlicka Integrated Computer Technologies PH. 608-558-5926 E-Mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Suresh Govindachar Sent: Monday, October 01, 2007 11:26 AM To: rsync@lists.samba.org Subject: RE: why not a gui for rsync Regarding the recommendation: Delta Copy: http://www.aboutmyip.com/AboutMyXApp/DeltaCopy.jsp It has a gui already. No need to reinvent the wheel. I went over the FAQ and the documentation for Delta Copy. Delta Copy does not provide any means to continually monitor an on-going rsync process. The most they do is: | Question: What type of logging is available in DeltaCopy | | Answer: Besides the logging options available in Rsync, | DeltaCopy provides two additional logs: | | deltac.log - available on DeltaCopy client | DeltaService.log - available on DeltaCopy server | | deltac.log file contains information about the DeltaCopy | client. It logs a message when a profile is run and | notifications emails are sent to the user. | | DeltaService.log is available where DeltaCopy server is | installed and contains messages when service is started or | stopped. | | It is important to know that rsync supports additional logging | that can be configured by specifying additional parameters | either on DeltaCopy client or server. Please refer to rsync | documentation for more information about logging options | available for rsync. | | When rsync.exe is executed in the back-ground by DeltaCopy, it | generates status messages which are sent to standard output. | DeltaCopy captures these messages and sends them via email. Observe that Delta Copy relies on rsync itself to provide insight into the status of the on-going transaction. So the question remains: In regard to output, rsync has the following features: a) -v option with various levels of verbosity b) --stats c) --log-file=foo d) messages rsync prints to stdout e) messages rsync prints to stderr. Where can one find an explanation of the format, content and interpretation of the outputs (a-e)? Thanks, --Suresh -- To unsubscribe or change options: https://lists.samba.org/mailman/listinfo/rsync Before posting, read: http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html -- To unsubscribe or change options: https://lists.samba.org/mailman/listinfo/rsync Before posting, read: http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
RE: why not a gui for rsync
What exactly are you looking for in monitoring it? The -v should give you a verbose output. If you want more details, I think you can specify multiple -v to give you a more verbose output. As my question indicates, I know the above. | So the question remains: In regard to output, rsync has | the following features: | | a) -v option with various levels of verbosity | b) --stats | c) --log-file=foo | d) messages rsync prints to stdout | e) messages rsync prints to stderr. | | Where can one find an explanation of the format, content | and interpretation of the outputs (a-e)? What I do not know is how to interpret the output from rsync. To give some specific examples: 1) consider the message: 2007/09/13 16:50:52 [13688] receiving file list Isn't the list of files determined from the command line used to invoke rsync? So what this new list of files that are being received from where and by whom? 2) In the following three lines, 2007/09/13 17:44:29 [13688] f..t cmsstorage.lst 2007/09/13 17:50:53 [13688] f.st WINDOWS/SYSTEM/FFASTLOG.TXT 2007/09/13 17:50:53 [13688] f+++ WINDOWS/TEMP/CP1293.TMP what does the fstuff mean? 3) In the following, 2007/09/13 17:43:10 [13688] IO error encountered -- skipping file deletion for what transaction was the IO error encountered: while reading the source (which file exactly)?, while writing the destination (which file exactly)?, while talking from sender rsync process to receiver rsync process?, while talking from receiver rsync process to sender rsync process? 4) What are the consequences of the following skip? IO error encountered -- skipping file deletion How can I know determine whether or not the skipping had any bad effects? So the question is: Where can one find an explanation of the format, content and interpretation of the outputs (a-e)? --Suresh -- To unsubscribe or change options: https://lists.samba.org/mailman/listinfo/rsync Before posting, read: http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
RE: why not a gui for rsync
RTM _ Stephen Zemlicka Integrated Computer Technologies PH. 608-558-5926 E-Mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Suresh Govindachar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, October 01, 2007 12:06 PM To: 'Stephen Zemlicka'; rsync@lists.samba.org Subject: RE: why not a gui for rsync What exactly are you looking for in monitoring it? The -v should give you a verbose output. If you want more details, I think you can specify multiple -v to give you a more verbose output. As my question indicates, I know the above. | So the question remains: In regard to output, rsync has | the following features: | | a) -v option with various levels of verbosity | b) --stats | c) --log-file=foo | d) messages rsync prints to stdout | e) messages rsync prints to stderr. | | Where can one find an explanation of the format, content | and interpretation of the outputs (a-e)? What I do not know is how to interpret the output from rsync. To give some specific examples: 1) consider the message: 2007/09/13 16:50:52 [13688] receiving file list Isn't the list of files determined from the command line used to invoke rsync? So what this new list of files that are being received from where and by whom? 2) In the following three lines, 2007/09/13 17:44:29 [13688] f..t cmsstorage.lst 2007/09/13 17:50:53 [13688] f.st WINDOWS/SYSTEM/FFASTLOG.TXT 2007/09/13 17:50:53 [13688] f+++ WINDOWS/TEMP/CP1293.TMP what does the fstuff mean? 3) In the following, 2007/09/13 17:43:10 [13688] IO error encountered -- skipping file deletion for what transaction was the IO error encountered: while reading the source (which file exactly)?, while writing the destination (which file exactly)?, while talking from sender rsync process to receiver rsync process?, while talking from receiver rsync process to sender rsync process? 4) What are the consequences of the following skip? IO error encountered -- skipping file deletion How can I know determine whether or not the skipping had any bad effects? So the question is: Where can one find an explanation of the format, content and interpretation of the outputs (a-e)? --Suresh -- To unsubscribe or change options: https://lists.samba.org/mailman/listinfo/rsync Before posting, read: http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
RE: why not a gui for rsync
Stephen Zemlicka wrote: RTM Where is the Manual -- that was the question I asked: | Where can one find an explanation of the format, content | and interpretation of the outputs (a-e)? --Suresh -- To unsubscribe or change options: https://lists.samba.org/mailman/listinfo/rsync Before posting, read: http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
RE: why not a gui for rsync
Gotta love Google. http://samba.anu.edu.au/ftp/rsync/rsync.html http://optics.ph.unimelb.edu.au/help/rsync/rsync.html http://www.mediacollege.com/cgi-bin/man/page.cgi?topic=rsync http://www.ss64.com/bash/rsync.html _ Stephen Zemlicka Integrated Computer Technologies PH. 608-558-5926 E-Mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Suresh Govindachar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, October 01, 2007 12:42 PM To: 'Stephen Zemlicka'; rsync@lists.samba.org Subject: RE: why not a gui for rsync Stephen Zemlicka wrote: RTM Where is the Manual -- that was the question I asked: | Where can one find an explanation of the format, content | and interpretation of the outputs (a-e)? --Suresh -- To unsubscribe or change options: https://lists.samba.org/mailman/listinfo/rsync Before posting, read: http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
RE: why not a gui for rsync
In response to Stephen Zemlicka wrote: RTM Where is the Manual -- that was the question I asked: | Where can one find an explanation of the format, content | and interpretation of the outputs (a-e)? where (a-e) refer to: | So the question remains: In regard to output, rsync has the | following features: | | a) -v option with various levels of verbosity | b) --stats | c) --log-file=foo | d) messages rsync prints to stdout | e) messages rsync prints to stderr. | | Where can one find an explanation of the format, content | and interpretation of the outputs (a-e)? Stephen Zemlicka wrote: SZ Gotta love Google. SZ SZ http://samba.anu.edu.au/ftp/rsync/rsync.html SZ http://optics.ph.unimelb.edu.au/help/rsync/rsync.html SZ http://www.mediacollege.com/cgi-bin/man/page.cgi?topic=rsync SZ http://www.ss64.com/bash/rsync.html Have you actually looked at the above links? Do they in fact answer the question asked? They do not. Please do not blindly respond to posts -- your responses are just a waste of time. --Suresh -- To unsubscribe or change options: https://lists.samba.org/mailman/listinfo/rsync Before posting, read: http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
RE: why not a gui for rsync
Don't a where's the manual question buried in a page of text. Keep it short and concise and then people won't skim to try and help you without wasting their own time. _ Stephen Zemlicka Integrated Computer Technologies PH. 608-558-5926 E-Mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Suresh Govindachar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, October 01, 2007 12:59 PM To: 'Stephen Zemlicka'; rsync@lists.samba.org Subject: RE: why not a gui for rsync In response to Stephen Zemlicka wrote: RTM Where is the Manual -- that was the question I asked: | Where can one find an explanation of the format, content | and interpretation of the outputs (a-e)? where (a-e) refer to: | So the question remains: In regard to output, rsync has the | following features: | | a) -v option with various levels of verbosity | b) --stats | c) --log-file=foo | d) messages rsync prints to stdout | e) messages rsync prints to stderr. | | Where can one find an explanation of the format, content | and interpretation of the outputs (a-e)? Stephen Zemlicka wrote: SZ Gotta love Google. SZ SZ http://samba.anu.edu.au/ftp/rsync/rsync.html SZ http://optics.ph.unimelb.edu.au/help/rsync/rsync.html SZ http://www.mediacollege.com/cgi-bin/man/page.cgi?topic=rsync SZ http://www.ss64.com/bash/rsync.html Have you actually looked at the above links? Do they in fact answer the question asked? They do not. Please do not blindly respond to posts -- your responses are just a waste of time. --Suresh -- To unsubscribe or change options: https://lists.samba.org/mailman/listinfo/rsync Before posting, read: http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
Re: why not a gui for rsync
If somebody is interesting to create this gui, let me know Try NasBackup It have rsync GUI. http://www.NasBackup.com/ Delta Copy unfortunately only works in client/server mode. As I also need local mode this is no option (though it looks nice). So me too I still haven't found a simple, user-friendly GUI. You can use the GUI for local mode only. Take a look at main.phase file Regards, Milutin Voinivich NasBackup Daniel Platteau wrote: I'm using rsync and I'm very glad, but, in some case, i'm not so happy. Some people are backing up the data with rsync but they have a lot of files, more than 10 and 20 Gb of data. We are using batch files and the task scheduling system of windows. It is difficult to see if the backup is well done, sometimes, they are error. We try to make some gui, one in java, an other in c++ and also one in delphi. The target was to make a service who can monitor the backup made with rsync and a gui that shown the state of the backup and allow the user to easily take back one file or, even, to take back old versions of the file. We are using rsync compiled with cygwin, the rsync software is launch in a shell and we try to collect the information in the master programm who have launched rsync. This way is maybe not the best way. My questions are : Is there a way to use the rsync protocol directly in a software without using rsync, like a dll with a lot of rsync functions. Is there some works in the world trying to make a good gui for rsync and to let all people using this very good method to make a backup. If somebody is interesting to create this gui, let me know begin:vcard fn:Milutin Voinivich n:Voinivich;Milutin email;internet:[EMAIL PROTECTED] note;quoted-printable:Try NasBackup.=0D=0A= http://www.nasbackup.com/ version:2.1 end:vcard -- To unsubscribe or change options: https://lists.samba.org/mailman/listinfo/rsync Before posting, read: http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
Re: why not a gui for rsync
On 10/1/07, Suresh Govindachar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 1) consider the message: 2007/09/13 16:50:52 [13688] receiving file list Isn't the list of files determined from the command line used to invoke rsync? So what this new list of files that are being received from where and by whom? The file list is an rsync data structure that contains not only the names of the files to be transferred but also their attributes and some other auxiliary information. Furthermore, if you are using -r or -d, the file list has a separate entry for every file inside any of the directories you gave on the command line. One of the first steps performed by the sending rsync is to build the file list based on the command line arguments and send it to the receiving rsync. 2) In the following three lines, 2007/09/13 17:44:29 [13688] f..t cmsstorage.lst 2007/09/13 17:50:53 [13688] f.st WINDOWS/SYSTEM/FFASTLOG.TXT 2007/09/13 17:50:53 [13688] f+++ WINDOWS/TEMP/CP1293.TMP what does the fstuff mean? This is itemize output. See the description of --itemize-changes in the man page. 3) In the following, 2007/09/13 17:43:10 [13688] IO error encountered -- skipping file deletion for what transaction was the IO error encountered: Rsync should have printed a previous error message telling you that. If it didn't, that's a bug we can investigate. 4) What are the consequences of the following skip? IO error encountered -- skipping file deletion How can I know determine whether or not the skipping had any bad effects? The sole consequence is that rsync may not have deleted some destination files that it ordinarily would have. See the descriptions of --delete and --ignore-errors in the man page for more information. Have you actually looked at the above links? Do they in fact answer the question asked? They do not. True, it takes a bit of digging in the man page to find the parts I cited that answer #2 and #4. (I note that Stephen's RTM was in reply to your #1-4, not your (a)-(e).) But in the future, if you at least try to take the initiative to help yourself rather than demanding an answer on a silver platter, others will be more likely to take the initiative to help you. Matt -- To unsubscribe or change options: https://lists.samba.org/mailman/listinfo/rsync Before posting, read: http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
RE: why not a gui for rsync
Daniel Platteau asked: I'm using rsync and I'm very glad, but, in some case, i'm not so happy. Some people are backing up the data with rsync but they have a lot of files, more than 10 and 20 Gb of data. We are using batch files and the task scheduling system of windows. It is difficult to see if the backup is well done, sometimes, they are error. Yes, it is indeed is very important to know if the backup was successful or if there were any errors! I do not know the resolution to this important question, but would like to present how I would approach the problem, and invite comments from those who know more about rsync. We try to make some gui, one in java, an other in c++ and also one in delphi. I am not sure one needs a gui. The target was to make a service who can monitor the backup made with rsync and a gui that shown the state of the backup and allow the user to easily take back one file or, even, to take back old versions of the file. We are using rsync compiled with cygwin, the rsync software is launch in a shell and we try to collect the information in the master programm who have launched rsync. This way is maybe not the best way. Here's are features of rsync that I would attempt to exploit: a) -v option with various levels of verbosity b) --stats c) --log-file=foo d) messages rsync prints to stdout e) messages rsync prints to stderr. Even on Windows, I would attempt to have a perl script fork a child that issues the rsync command. The parent perl script would monitor items (b-e) and emit summary messages of the status of the rsync command: the mechanism for the message might just be prints to the console or a pop-up window. The script can have special triggers for conditions such as detection of errors of certain type or detection of too many errors etc. So I see the need for a document that explains the format, content and interpretation of (a-e) at a user level. My questions are : Is there a way to use the rsync protocol directly in a software without using rsync, like a dll with a lot of rsync functions. My understanding is that rsync already can provide the status information in an on-going manner -- how one collects, interprets and displays that information is the issue. Is there some works in the world trying to make a good gui for rsync and to let all people using this very good method to make a backup. If somebody is interesting to create this gui, let me know --Suresh -- To unsubscribe or change options: https://lists.samba.org/mailman/listinfo/rsync Before posting, read: http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
Re: why not a gui for rsync
snip Is there some works in the world trying to make a good gui for rsync and to let all people using this very good method to make a backup. If somebody is interesting to create this gui, let me know --Suresh Delta Copy: http://www.aboutmyip.com/AboutMyXApp/DeltaCopy.jsp It has a gui already. No need to reinvent the wheel. -- Fail to learn history-repeat it. Fail to learn rights-lose them. Learn both-get screwed by previous two groups. -- To unsubscribe or change options: https://lists.samba.org/mailman/listinfo/rsync Before posting, read: http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
