Re: [RollTideFan] Favorite Play?

2005-07-03 Thread Jeff Todd
I'm skeered! Very skeered!

Slef E.

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Re: [RollTideFan] Non Bama - NASCAR

2005-07-03 Thread JVWatts
As much as I love NASCAR I made my 2nd and final trip to that shit hole 
Daytona Beach yesterdayJamie


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Re: [RollTideFan] Favorite Play?

2005-07-03 Thread JVWatts
C'mon SleffieYou never know if a woe man means that kind of shiite 
or notBetter be slafe and sleep with one eye open Pat may plot 
something up with ewer wifeHTH, Jamie


Jeff Todd wrote:


I'm skeered! Very skeered!

Slef E.

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Re: [RollTideFan] Favorite Play?

2005-07-03 Thread Pat Smoot

If I can get her away from Jobu long enough, we just might do that.

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C'mon SleffieYou never know if a woe man means that kind of shiite or 
notBetter be slafe and sleep with one eye open Pat may plot something 
up with ewer wifeHTH, Jamie


Jeff Todd wrote:


I'm skeered! Very skeered!

Slef E.

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Re: [RollTideFan] Non Bama - NASCAR

2005-07-03 Thread Pat Smoot

I said that after my 1st trip.  Why did you hate it?


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As much as I love NASCAR I made my 2nd and final trip to that shit hole 
Daytona Beach yesterdayJamie


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RE: [RollTideFan] Non Bama - NASCAR

2005-07-03 Thread Tim Boozer
I made my first trip there for this race last year, and swore it off,
hopefully for good. I may try to go to the Daytona 500 some day, but not
another night race, or at least not without planning on sleeping right there
at the track.

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As much as I love NASCAR I made my 2nd and final trip to that shit hole
Daytona Beach yesterdayJamie

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Re: [RollTideFan] Favorite Play?

2005-07-03 Thread Jeff Todd
That would be a neat trick. I'm fresh out of wives, 
dude.

Slef E.

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[RollTideFan] Automatic BCS Birth

2005-07-03 Thread Rick McMahan
Can you believe one of these teams is guaranteed to be playing in a BCS 
bowl at the end of the season?


Connecticut
Pittsburgh
Rutgers
Syracuse
West Virginia
Cincinnati
Louisville
South Florida

That is beyond ridiculous

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[RollTideFan] Public Enemy No. 1

2005-07-03 Thread Rick McMahan
*Public Enemy No. 1: Volunteers ’ Fulmer a key cog in upcoming 
Tuscaloosa trial*


By Christopher Walsh
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TUSCALOOSA | It’s been almost a whole year since University of Tennessee 
football coach Phillip Fulmer chose to accept a $10,000 fine for 
skipping Media Days in Birmingham rather than risk being subpoenaed for 
a deposition.


But soon, one way or another, he’s going to cross the state line into 
Alabama and almost certainly receive a rude welcoming.


Between the jury defamation trial scheduled to start July 11, SEC Media 
Days at the end of the month or the Alabama-Tennessee football game at 
Bryant-Denny Stadium on Oct. 22, Fulmer can no longer avoid a return to 
the Heart of Dixie.


Public Enemy No. 1 for Crimson Tide fans only tightened his grip on the 
position with the recent release of all documents in the $60 million 
lawsuit by former Alabama coaches Ronnie Cottrell and Ivy Williams 
against the National Collegiate Athletic Association and others.


The records only further confirmed that key sources of information for 
both the NCAA and SEC in the Alabama recruiting scandal regarding Albert 
Means, came from those with Tennessee ties — including Fulmer’s 
confidential memos and his passing on information from recruiting 
analyst Tom Culpepper.


Also revealed was that the SEC was investigating former Alabama booster 
Logan Young in 1998 and knew Means’ high school football coach, Lynn 
Lang, was asking for money long before the defensive lineman signed to 
play for the Crimson Tide.


SEC investigator William Sievers testified that he asked Tennessee 
assistant coach Pat Washington to wear a wire to record Lang asking for 
money. Washington agreed to do so, but the school nixed the idea.


Meanwhile, other Tennessee supporters were important cogs in the 
investigation, like booster Duke Clement, a drinking associate and rival 
of Young’s in Memphis, with their statements taken at face value.


In his deposition, Sievers said regarding Clement: “A lot of his 
information was second-hand, but he also reported things that were said 
to him by Logan Young.”


When asked by plaintiff attorney Tommy Gallion if he looked into 
Clement’s credibility, Sievers said: “I did not.”


When asked by Gallion if he investigated NCAA secret witness Karl 
Schledwitz (a figure in the Butcher Bank scandal and recently named to 
the Tennessee Board of Trustees) or Clement, NCAA investigator Richard 
Johanningmeier said, “The information they provided, I had no questions 
about the credibility of the information they provided to us.”


Attorney Joseph Buffington, who represented the University of Alabama, 
wrote in a letter to the school dated May 16, 2000, that he believed 
former Tennessee booster Roy Adams was feeding Sievers information.


“We are extremely concerned that Mr. Sievers is admittedly receiving 
information from Roy Adams and asked questions based on that 
information. Mr. Adams likely will draw up additional cloak-and-dagger 
theories against Mr. Young. Are we to expect additional document 
requests, which really amount to nothing more than allowing someone like 
Mr. Adams to pursue a personal vendetta that the national office and the 
SEC knew all about Roy Adams where he was recognized as a troublemaker 
with no creditability whatsoever.”


Sievers testified that he never interviewed Adams. He also never 
interviewed Cottrell during his investigation.


Gallion: “You don’t know of anything Ronnie Cottrell did that was 
improper?”


Sievers: “That is correct.”

In 1999, Sievers was investigating claims the father of football player 
Eric Locke made against Tennessee. He reported his concerns to SEC 
commissioner Roy Kramer, who informed Tennessee, resulting in a booster 
being disassociated.


“My question to you is very simply, why was this not done in the Logan 
Young affair at the offset?” Gallion asked during the deposition, 
echoing a theme of his clients’ lawsuit.


In addition to the Tennessee coaching staff and boosters and Culpepper, 
Johanningmeier also interviewed former Tennessee assistants David 
Cutcliffe and Kurt Roper.


Of them, Johanningmeier said the only person who could provide any 
evidence that Young paid for Means to go to Alabama was Culpepper, who 
alleged that Young bragged about it during a car ride they shared.


Johanningmeier interviewed Tennessee coaches on March 13, 2000, more 
than six months before Alabama was notified an investigation was 
underway, and well before Means played his first game at Alabama.


The Volunteers’ coaches said that they believed the following players 
had been paid or influenced, directly or indirectly, by Young: Michael 
Myers, 

Re: [RollTideFan] Favorite Play?

2005-07-03 Thread JVWatts

Lucky mofo

Jeff Todd wrote:

That would be a neat trick. I'm fresh out of wives, 
dude.


Slef E.

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C'mon SleffieYou never know if a woe man means 
that kind of shiite or notBetter be slafe and 
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Re: [RollTideFan] Non Bama - NASCAR

2005-07-03 Thread JVWatts

Unless they move the Daytona 500 to another city I will only watch on TV

Tim Boozer wrote:


I made my first trip there for this race last year, and swore it off,
hopefully for good. I may try to go to the Daytona 500 some day, but not
another night race, or at least not without planning on sleeping right there
at the track.

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Subject: Re: [RollTideFan] Non Bama - NASCAR


As much as I love NASCAR I made my 2nd and final trip to that shit hole
Daytona Beach yesterdayJamie

Rick McMahan wrote:

 


You guys getting ready to watch the race tonight? Should be a good one.

RTR!
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Re: [RollTideFan] Non Bama - NASCAR

2005-07-03 Thread JVWatts
We parked at that mall across the street from the trackthe parking 
was handled by ERMC StaffI don't know what the letters stand for but 
I'm hunting itWe payed 40 a piece to park there(there were four car 
loads of us)went to set up my grill, they came and made me put it 
upNO OPEN FLAMES allowedthen informed us that no alcohol was 
allowed either(BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA)We asked about putting up our 
canopy and was promptly informed that we would have to buy an extra 
parking spot, so that bumps us up to 200 bucks totalI asked for a 
refund and told them we would pack up and leave and was told that there 
were no refunds, even though it wasn't specified on the parking 
stubSo we're stuckHaving well over 100 dollars worth of meat 
that had to be used, I inquired about propane stovesThey're allowed, 
even though they couldn't answer my question as to why a stove with an 
open flame that had to continue to burn was OK, but a grill with a fire 
that would die down in minutes was considered a no - noOKI had 
taken my camp stove so that was one problem solved but I had to go to 
Sears and buy a skilletanother 20 out of my pocketand some on 
the go coffee cups from that close by  Try and Save took care of the no 
alcohol problemI also went to make sure it was OK to smoke and 
listen to the radio while we sat there waiting for race timeIt 
wasbut no cursing was allowed by the muscians or usSo I make up 
my mind that the next time I go there, I would find where you could 
actually enjoy being at the place where you park
Well then for the second year in a row I watched blowers dry the track 
for about 2 1/2 hrslast night the race actually got under way 
without caution a little after 11THIS IS NASCAR PEOPLE  The race 
was OK except for the fact that the 20 car lead the entire damb thang
Javvy don't have enough bandwidth available for me to get into after the 
race traffic controlLet me just say that the Daytona cops, FDLE, 
Volusia County Sheriff officials, and Daytona Beach and Volusia 
government folks need to go to Talladega and learn from those country 
hicks about how to move traffic effectively and quickly out of town


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Re: [RollTideFan] Automatic BCS Birth

2005-07-03 Thread JVWatts

Ain't political correctness and affirmative action grand

Rick McMahan wrote:

Can you believe one of these teams is guaranteed to be playing in a 
BCS bowl at the end of the season?


Connecticut
Pittsburgh
Rutgers
Syracuse
West Virginia
Cincinnati
Louisville
South Florida

That is beyond ridiculous

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Re: [RollTideFan] Non Bama - NASCAR

2005-07-03 Thread Charles




I've been quite happy in Daytona Beach for the past 9 1/2 years.

Charles Mimshttp://www.the-sandbox.org

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  NASCAR
  Unless they move the Daytona 500 to another city I will only 
  watch on TVTim Boozer wrote:I made my first trip there for 
  this race last year, and swore it off,hopefully for good. I may try to 
  go to the Daytona 500 some day, but notanother night race, or at least 
  not without planning on sleeping right thereat the 
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  Athletics Discussion ListSubject: Re: [RollTideFan] Non Bama - 
  NASCARAs much as I love NASCAR I made my 2nd and final 
  trip to that shit holeDaytona Beach 
  yesterdayJamieRick McMahan wrote: 
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Re: [RollTideFan] Non Bama - NASCAR

2005-07-03 Thread Jeff Todd
Why do y'all hate Daytona? Lemme know! I'm think about 
heading down there next February and partying with Rev. 
Chuck.

Slef E.

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 Unless they move the Daytona 500 to another city I 
 will only watch on TV

 Tim Boozer wrote:

I made my first trip there for this race last year, 
and swore it off,
hopefully for good. I may try to go to the Daytona 500 
some day, but not
another night race, or at least not without planning 
on sleeping right there
at the track.



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RE: [RollTideFan] Non Bama - NASCAR

2005-07-03 Thread Charles
I don't know what ERMC stands for, but it is a private enterprise
unaffiliated with the speedway and manages the *private* lots, like the
mall.  They are known to gouge people, even locals who go in for shopping.
You probably would have fared better at one of the speedway controlled lots.
As for traffic control it sucks during all special events, yet they never
seem to improve it.  That's why those of us who live here avoid that side of
town until you race folks leave!  

Charles
http://www.the-sandbox.org fun, friendly debate and talk about life.

 

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We parked at that mall across the street from the trackthe parking 
was handled by ERMC StaffI don't know what the letters stand for but 
I'm hunting itWe payed 40 a piece to park there(there were four car 
loads of us)went to set up my grill, they came and made me put it 
upNO OPEN FLAMES allowedthen informed us that no alcohol was 
allowed either(BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA)We asked about putting up our 
canopy and was promptly informed that we would have to buy an extra 
parking spot, so that bumps us up to 200 bucks totalI asked for a 
refund and told them we would pack up and leave and was told that there 
were no refunds, even though it wasn't specified on the parking 
stubSo we're stuckHaving well over 100 dollars worth of meat 
that had to be used, I inquired about propane stovesThey're allowed, 
even though they couldn't answer my question as to why a stove with an 
open flame that had to continue to burn was OK, but a grill with a fire 
that would die down in minutes was considered a no - noOKI had 
taken my camp stove so that was one problem solved but I had to go to 
Sears and buy a skilletanother 20 out of my pocketand some on 
the go coffee cups from that close by  Try and Save took care of the no 
alcohol problemI also went to make sure it was OK to smoke and 
listen to the radio while we sat there waiting for race timeIt 
wasbut no cursing was allowed by the muscians or usSo I make up 
my mind that the next time I go there, I would find where you could 
actually enjoy being at the place where you park
Well then for the second year in a row I watched blowers dry the track 
for about 2 1/2 hrslast night the race actually got under way 
without caution a little after 11THIS IS NASCAR PEOPLE  The race 
was OK except for the fact that the 20 car lead the entire damb thang
Javvy don't have enough bandwidth available for me to get into after the 
race traffic controlLet me just say that the Daytona cops, FDLE, 
Volusia County Sheriff officials, and Daytona Beach and Volusia 
government folks need to go to Talladega and learn from those country 
hicks about how to move traffic effectively and quickly out of town

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Re: [RollTideFan] Public Enemy No. 1

2005-07-03 Thread dsnuggs
fulmer sucks!


 *Public Enemy No. 1: Volunteers ’ Fulmer a key cog in upcoming 
 Tuscaloosa trial*
 
 By Christopher Walsh
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 July 03, 2005
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 TUSCALOOSA | It’s been almost a whole year since University of
 Tennessee  football coach Phillip Fulmer chose to accept a $10,000 fine
 for 
skipping Media Days in Birmingham rather than risk being subpoenaed for 
a deposition.
 
 But soon, one way or another, he’s going to cross the state line into 
 Alabama and almost certainly receive a rude welcoming.
 
 Between the jury defamation trial scheduled to start July 11, SEC Media
  Days at the end of the month or the Alabama-Tennessee football game at
  Bryant-Denny Stadium on Oct. 22, Fulmer can no longer avoid a return
 to  the Heart of Dixie.
 
 Public Enemy No. 1 for Crimson Tide fans only tightened his grip on the
  position with the recent release of all documents in the $60 million 
 lawsuit by former Alabama coaches Ronnie Cottrell and Ivy Williams 
 against the National Collegiate Athletic Association and others.
 
 The records only further confirmed that key sources of information for 
 both the NCAA and SEC in the Alabama recruiting scandal regarding
 Albert  Means, came from those with Tennessee ties — including Fulmer’s
 
 confidential memos and his passing on information from recruiting 
 analyst Tom Culpepper.
 
 Also revealed was that the SEC was investigating former Alabama booster
  Logan Young in 1998 and knew Means’ high school football coach, Lynn 
 Lang, was asking for money long before the defensive lineman signed to 
 play for the Crimson Tide.
 
 SEC investigator William Sievers testified that he asked Tennessee 
 assistant coach Pat Washington to wear a wire to record Lang asking for
  money. Washington agreed to do so, but the school nixed the idea.
 
 Meanwhile, other Tennessee supporters were important cogs in the 
 investigation, like booster Duke Clement, a drinking associate and
 rival  of Young’s in Memphis, with their statements taken at face
 value.
 
 In his deposition, Sievers said regarding Clement: “A lot of his 
 information was second-hand, but he also reported things that were said
  to him by Logan Young.”
 
 When asked by plaintiff attorney Tommy Gallion if he looked into 
 Clement’s credibility, Sievers said: “I did not.”
 
 When asked by Gallion if he investigated NCAA secret witness Karl 
 Schledwitz (a figure in the Butcher Bank scandal and recently named to 
 the Tennessee Board of Trustees) or Clement, NCAA investigator Richard 
 Johanningmeier said, “The information they provided, I had no questions
  about the credibility of the information they provided to us.”
 
 Attorney Joseph Buffington, who represented the University of Alabama, 
 wrote in a letter to the school dated May 16, 2000, that he believed 
 former Tennessee booster Roy Adams was feeding Sievers information.
 
 “We are extremely concerned that Mr. Sievers is admittedly receiving 
 information from Roy Adams and asked questions based on that 
 information. Mr. Adams likely will draw up additional cloak-and-dagger 
 theories against Mr. Young. Are we to expect additional document 
 requests, which really amount to nothing more than allowing someone
 like  Mr. Adams to pursue a personal vendetta that the national office
 and the  SEC knew all about Roy Adams where he was recognized as a
 troublemaker  with no creditability whatsoever.”
 
 Sievers testified that he never interviewed Adams. He also never 
 interviewed Cottrell during his investigation.
 
 Gallion: “You don’t know of anything Ronnie Cottrell did that was 
 improper?”
 
 Sievers: “That is correct.”
 
 In 1999, Sievers was investigating claims the father of football player
  Eric Locke made against Tennessee. He reported his concerns to SEC 
 commissioner Roy Kramer, who informed Tennessee, resulting in a booster
  being disassociated.
 
 “My question to you is very simply, why was this not done in the Logan 
 Young affair at the offset?” Gallion asked during the deposition, 
 echoing a theme of his clients’ lawsuit.
 
 In addition to the Tennessee coaching staff and boosters and Culpepper,
  Johanningmeier also interviewed former Tennessee assistants David 
 Cutcliffe and Kurt Roper.
 
 Of them, Johanningmeier said the only person who could provide any 
 evidence that Young paid for Means to go to Alabama was Culpepper, who 
 alleged that Young bragged about it during a car ride they shared.
 
 Johanningmeier interviewed Tennessee coaches on March 13, 2000, more 
 than six months before Alabama was notified an investigation was 
 underway, and well before Means played his first game at Alabama.
 
 The Volunteers’ coaches said that they 

Re: [RollTideFan] Non Bama - NASCAR

2005-07-03 Thread Jeff Todd
Easy Redneck Money Collectors

HTH,

Slef E.

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I don't know what ERMC stands for 



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Re: [RollTideFan] Non Bama - NASCAR

2005-07-03 Thread Jeff Todd
Tony Stewart fsckin ROOLES!

Did you see him climb up and over the fence onto the 
flag tower? I thought that was pretty cool for a little 
fat boy!

Slef E.

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 The race was OK except for the fact that the
 20 car lead the entire damb thang



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