RE: [RollTideFan] Hey...Jobu 602 huh? (Now 614)
I agree with you (Shiite!!) that the school systems are in need of one of them bridges built to those less fortunate. Interesting that you point out that we (although there is no 'we' in Federal Gubmint) spend $5-6000 a year in Federal dollars but then you also mention how the federal plutocracy wants to dictate what the schools can teach. Although I don't necessarily agree with it, the entity who pays for the education (the teacher's salary, the buildings, the expenses) can in fact dictate what is taught. Whoever holds the purse-strings gets to call the shots. Until the school systems are treated like a business and ran accordingly, we are in store for more of the same. As far as choosing what kind of education your child receives, you have that choice now: Moving to districts where the schools are better; sending your kids to private school and home-schooling are all valid options. What most people though are looking for are ways to have their children educated better, but at no direct cost to the parents. My opinion, differ with me if you like, is that it isn't the gubmint's responsibility to provide 'free' education to the mass population. If it is, then they get to dictate what is taught. If you, as a parent don't like it, fork over the money to move, send them to a private school or have one of the parents stay home and teach little Jimmy the A,B,C's. For schools to teach what the local parents want means the parents are going to have to pay for it. Having the parents pay $2-800 a month for their kids to be taught the way in which the parents feel is usually where the fight ends. (Talking about throwing money at a problem, I saw on the news where American troops were giving money to families (compensating them) who live in houses that were destroyed as part of the round-up of the bad guys. Wonder how much a clay and rock 3/2 rancher will fetch in a war-torn area with no electricity, water or roof?) And yes, there are millions of people who don't have running water. If that isn't the case, explain to me why the entire population of Tinnersee smells that way???:) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Joe Goodson Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2004 8:25 PM To: RollTideFan-The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List Subject:Re: [RollTideFan] Hey...Jobu 602 huh? Interesting that we (the American gubmint) can globe-hop and re-build schools and make sure all these fine folks have running water while there are schools in THIS country that don't have enough money\space\teachers\supplies\etc. Whoa!!! I know you didn't just say / type that. Consider this. Throwing money at problems has never done anything other than make them worse. Consider poverty. We throw money at it and subsidize fatherless babies and viola! More fatherless babies born into poverty stricken pseudo families! Think about a drug addict or an alcoholic. Keep throwing money at them and see what you get. So when you think about education, think about the $5-6,000 that we spend in federal dollars on each student every year. You know, about 25% of the middleschool students cannot find the United States on a world map? Can you believe that? It is not due to a lack of money. It is due to a federal plutocracy that wants to dictate what the schools can teach, i.e.. Heather has Two Mommies and other such crap. If you have a class of 25 students at $5,000 a pop, then you have 5,000 X 25= $125,000.00. After you pay a teacher about $30,000.00 that leaves $95,000.00. WTF happens to all that cash? And that is just from ONE classroom. Multiply the school population by $5,000.00 and ask yourself why the hell we are cranking out a bunch of idiots that have to take remedial math courses upon signing up for college. They don't even teach History like they used to. Face it, the federal government needs to give Americans school vouchers so that they can choose what kind of education their children receive. Not to mention the millions of people who can't afford health care; who can't find decent housing; who don't have running water. OH puhlease! Do you actually think that there are MILLIONS of people in America without running water in their house? Joe There is a rank due to the United States, among nations, which will be withheld, if not absolutely lost, by the reputation of weakness. If we desire to avoid insult, we must be able to repel it; if we desire to secure peace, one of the most powerful instruments of our rising prosperity, it must be known that we are at all times ready for war. - George Washington, Annual Message, December 1793 __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup! To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net
RE: [RollTideFan] Shula caved
I think after I had changed the award I would have called Croom and said, Hey dude. I made my decision and it's final. We'll make another award for you when you are done at MSU, or we will change it back then. Definitely a wimpy position CMS has himself in... -Original Message- Slef posted: http://www.al.com/sports/huntsvilletimes/index.ssf?/base/sports/108118720519 8450.xml Shula apologizes to Croom 04/05/04 From staff reports Huntsville Times - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, April 05, 2004 12:40 PM Subject: [RollTideFan] Shula caved ($1) to Slef and changed it back. kurt __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup! To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net
Re: [RollTideFan] Hey...Jobu Joe
Youse two is startin' to sound a lot like us drugged out LibertariansJamie - Original Message - From: Joel Perry [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'RollTideFan-The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 8:17 AM Subject: RE: [RollTideFan] Hey...Jobu 602 huh? (Now 614) I agree with you (Shiite!!) that the school systems are in need of one of them bridges built to those less fortunate. Interesting that you point out that we (although there is no 'we' in Federal Gubmint) spend $5-6000 a year in Federal dollars but then you also mention how the federal plutocracy wants to dictate what the schools can teach. Although I don't necessarily agree with it, the entity who pays for the education (the teacher's salary, the buildings, the expenses) can in fact dictate what is taught. Whoever holds the purse-strings gets to call the shots. Until the school systems are treated like a business and ran accordingly, we are in store for more of the same. As far as choosing what kind of education your child receives, you have that choice now: Moving to districts where the schools are better; sending your kids to private school and home-schooling are all valid options. What most people though are looking for are ways to have their children educated better, but at no direct cost to the parents. My opinion, differ with me if you like, is that it isn't the gubmint's responsibility to provide 'free' education to the mass population. If it is, then they get to dictate what is taught. If you, as a parent don't like it, fork over the money to move, send them to a private school or have one of the parents stay home and teach little Jimmy the A,B,C's. For schools to teach what the local parents want means the parents are going to have to pay for it. Having the parents pay $2-800 a month for their kids to be taught the way in which the parents feel is usually where the fight ends. (Talking about throwing money at a problem, I saw on the news where American troops were giving money to families (compensating them) who live in houses that were destroyed as part of the round-up of the bad guys. Wonder how much a clay and rock 3/2 rancher will fetch in a war-torn area with no electricity, water or roof?) And yes, there are millions of people who don't have running water. If that isn't the case, explain to me why the entire population of Tinnersee smells that way???:) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Joe Goodson Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2004 8:25 PM To: RollTideFan-The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List Subject: Re: [RollTideFan] Hey...Jobu 602 huh? Interesting that we (the American gubmint) can globe-hop and re-build schools and make sure all these fine folks have running water while there are schools in THIS country that don't have enough money\space\teachers\supplies\etc. Whoa!!! I know you didn't just say / type that. Consider this. Throwing money at problems has never done anything other than make them worse. Consider poverty. We throw money at it and subsidize fatherless babies and viola! More fatherless babies born into poverty stricken pseudo families! Think about a drug addict or an alcoholic. Keep throwing money at them and see what you get. So when you think about education, think about the $5-6,000 that we spend in federal dollars on each student every year. You know, about 25% of the middleschool students cannot find the United States on a world map? Can you believe that? It is not due to a lack of money. It is due to a federal plutocracy that wants to dictate what the schools can teach, i.e.. Heather has Two Mommies and other such crap. If you have a class of 25 students at $5,000 a pop, then you have 5,000 X 25= $125,000.00. After you pay a teacher about $30,000.00 that leaves $95,000.00. WTF happens to all that cash? And that is just from ONE classroom. Multiply the school population by $5,000.00 and ask yourself why the hell we are cranking out a bunch of idiots that have to take remedial math courses upon signing up for college. They don't even teach History like they used to. Face it, the federal government needs to give Americans school vouchers so that they can choose what kind of education their children receive. Not to mention the millions of people who can't afford health care; who can't find decent housing; who don't have running water. OH puhlease! Do you actually think that there are MILLIONS of people in America without running water in their house? Joe There is a rank due to the United States, among nations, which will be withheld, if not absolutely lost, by the reputation of weakness. If we desire to avoid insult, we must be able to repel it; if we desire to secure peace, one of the most powerful instruments of our rising prosperity, it must be known that we are at all
RE: [RollTideFan] Shula caved
To me, Shula doesn't seem the type to make waves in the SEC pool. I think someone other than Shula decided the name needed to be changed and told Shula to change it. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Devan Orange Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 8:39 AM To: 'RollTideFan-The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List' Subject:RE: [RollTideFan] Shula caved I think after I had changed the award I would have called Croom and said, Hey dude. I made my decision and it's final. We'll make another award for you when you are done at MSU, or we will change it back then. Definitely a wimpy position CMS has himself in... -Original Message- Slef posted: http://www.al.com/sports/huntsvilletimes/index.ssf?/base/sports/108118720519 8450.xml Shula apologizes to Croom 04/05/04 From staff reports Huntsville Times - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, April 05, 2004 12:40 PM Subject: [RollTideFan] Shula caved ($1) to Slef and changed it back. kurt __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup! To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup! To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net
RE: [RollTideFan] Shula caved
Maybe so, but if my boss walked up and told me to slap the person in the office next to me in the face I would tell him to take a long walk off a short plank! -Original Message- JoBu wrote: To me, Shula doesn't seem the type to make waves in the SEC pool. I think someone other than Shula decided the name needed to be changed and told Shula to change it. -Original Message- I think after I had changed the award I would have called Croom and said, Hey dude. I made my decision and it's final. We'll make another award for you when you are done at MSU, or we will change it back then. Definitely a wimpy position CMS has himself in... -Original Message- Slef posted: http://www.al.com/sports/huntsvilletimes/index.ssf?/base/sports/108118720519 8450.xml Shula apologizes to Croom 04/05/04 From staff reports Huntsville Times - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, April 05, 2004 12:40 PM Subject: [RollTideFan] Shula caved ($1) to Slef and changed it back. kurt __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup! To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net
RE: [RollTideFan] Hey...Jobu Joe
Don't forget about Tim, he has an opinion, although rarely valid. :) Since we can't agree on the Iraq issue (although I seem to be the only one left in the burning building), we need to find another topic to hash out. Ya know, since football is so un-controversial and all. So I'll offer my stance on a few issues and see if we can agree on anything: JoBu is pro-choice, pro-gun, anti-bussing. Let the gays marry (no one really cares what they do, but they're fun to watch). Anti-welfare (except for those really needing it), pro-nuclear power, anti-rodeo (surprise there huh?), semi-pro-pledge of allegiance, semi-anti-Ten Commandments in state\federal\public buildings (although I do like the movie), pro-Hooters, pro-death penalty, anti-instant replay, anti-dry ribs, anti-illegal aliens, anti-reparations (didcha see the article about the UofA professor who has uncovered that slaves helped build some of the buildings\worked for UofA and now he has developed a trial from them to their present day kinfolk and wants the UofA to make reparations???), pro-Michelin, anti-Goodyear. Pro-equal rights (but not the way the theory has declined into the actual practice), pro-excessive celebration in the endzone, anti-day games in 90 degree heat, anti-any game in BHAM, anti-prostate exam, pro-Starbucks. There. Who's next? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jamie Watts Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 8:29 AM To: RollTideFan-The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List Subject:Re: [RollTideFan] Hey...Jobu Joe Youse two is startin' to sound a lot like us drugged out LibertariansJamie - Original Message - From: Joel Perry [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'RollTideFan-The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 8:17 AM Subject: RE: [RollTideFan] Hey...Jobu 602 huh? (Now 614) I agree with you (Shiite!!) that the school systems are in need of one of them bridges built to those less fortunate. Interesting that you point out that we (although there is no 'we' in Federal Gubmint) spend $5-6000 a year in Federal dollars but then you also mention how the federal plutocracy wants to dictate what the schools can teach. Although I don't necessarily agree with it, the entity who pays for the education (the teacher's salary, the buildings, the expenses) can in fact dictate what is taught. Whoever holds the purse-strings gets to call the shots. Until the school systems are treated like a business and ran accordingly, we are in store for more of the same. As far as choosing what kind of education your child receives, you have that choice now: Moving to districts where the schools are better; sending your kids to private school and home-schooling are all valid options. What most people though are looking for are ways to have their children educated better, but at no direct cost to the parents. My opinion, differ with me if you like, is that it isn't the gubmint's responsibility to provide 'free' education to the mass population. If it is, then they get to dictate what is taught. If you, as a parent don't like it, fork over the money to move, send them to a private school or have one of the parents stay home and teach little Jimmy the A,B,C's. For schools to teach what the local parents want means the parents are going to have to pay for it. Having the parents pay $2-800 a month for their kids to be taught the way in which the parents feel is usually where the fight ends. (Talking about throwing money at a problem, I saw on the news where American troops were giving money to families (compensating them) who live in houses that were destroyed as part of the round-up of the bad guys. Wonder how much a clay and rock 3/2 rancher will fetch in a war-torn area with no electricity, water or roof?) And yes, there are millions of people who don't have running water. If that isn't the case, explain to me why the entire population of Tinnersee smells that way???:) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Joe Goodson Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2004 8:25 PM To: RollTideFan-The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List Subject: Re: [RollTideFan] Hey...Jobu 602 huh? Interesting that we (the American gubmint) can globe-hop and re-build schools and make sure all these fine folks have running water while there are schools in THIS country that don't have enough money\space\teachers\supplies\etc. Whoa!!! I know you didn't just say / type that. Consider this. Throwing money at problems has never done anything other than make them worse. Consider poverty. We throw money at it and subsidize fatherless babies and viola! More fatherless babies born into poverty stricken pseudo families! Think about a drug addict or an alcoholic. Keep throwing money at them and see what you get. So when you think about
Re: RE: [RollTideFan] Hey...Jobu 602 huh? (Now 614)
I've stayed out of this as long as I can. I received NO student loans, grants, etc. to attend college; my parents earned too much money.(yeah, right) But Dub and Earl could have gone to school for free since they lived in poverty. Instead, they decided to retread tires for a living @ 5.00/hr. Now I am supposed to feel sorry for them? If you are poor and can't support yourself: A) you yourself made poor career/education choices. B) you should not have a house full of children that taxpayers now have to clothe, feed AND educate. My conscience is completely clear. Sonja From: Joel Perry [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2004/04/08 Thu AM 08:17:49 EDT To: 'RollTideFan-The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [RollTideFan] Hey...Jobu 602 huh? (Now 614) I agree with you (Shiite!!) that the school systems are in need of one of them bridges built to those less fortunate. Interesting that you point out that we (although there is no 'we' in Federal Gubmint) spend $5-6000 a year in Federal dollars but then you also mention how the federal plutocracy wants to dictate what the schools can teach. Although I don't necessarily agree with it, the entity who pays for the education (the teacher's salary, the buildings, the expenses) can in fact dictate what is taught. Whoever holds the purse-strings gets to call the shots. Until the school systems are treated like a business and ran accordingly, we are in store for more of the same. As far as choosing what kind of education your child receives, you have that choice now: Moving to districts where the schools are better; sending your kids to private school and home-schooling are all valid options. What most people though are looking for are ways to have their children educated better, but at no direct cost to the parents. My opinion, differ with me if you like, is that it isn't the gubmint's responsibility to provide 'free' education to the mass population. If it is, then they get to dictate what is taught. If you, as a parent don't like it, fork over the money to move, send them to a private school or have one of the parents stay home and teach little Jimmy the A,B,C's. For schools to teach what the local parents want means the parents are going to have to pay for it. Having the parents pay $2-800 a month for their kids to be taught the way in which the parents feel is usually where the fight ends. (Talking about throwing money at a problem, I saw on the news where American troops were giving money to families (compensating them) who live in houses that were destroyed as part of the round-up of the bad guys. Wonder how much a clay and rock 3/2 rancher will fetch in a war-torn area with no electricity, water or roof?) And yes, there are millions of people who don't have running water. If that isn't the case, explain to me why the entire population of Tinnersee smells that way???:) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Joe Goodson Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2004 8:25 PM To: RollTideFan-The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List Subject: Re: [RollTideFan] Hey...Jobu 602 huh? Interesting that we (the American gubmint) can globe-hop and re-build schools and make sure all these fine folks have running water while there are schools in THIS country that don't have enough money\space\teachers\supplies\etc. Whoa!!! I know you didn't just say / type that. Consider this. Throwing money at problems has never done anything other than make them worse. Consider poverty. We throw money at it and subsidize fatherless babies and viola! More fatherless babies born into poverty stricken pseudo families! Think about a drug addict or an alcoholic. Keep throwing money at them and see what you get. So when you think about education, think about the $5-6,000 that we spend in federal dollars on each student every year. You know, about 25% of the middleschool students cannot find the United States on a world map? Can you believe that? It is not due to a lack of money. It is due to a federal plutocracy that wants to dictate what the schools can teach, i.e.. Heather has Two Mommies and other such crap. If you have a class of 25 students at $5,000 a pop, then you have 5,000 X 25= $125,000.00. After you pay a teacher about $30,000.00 that leaves $95,000.00. WTF happens to all that cash? And that is just from ONE classroom. Multiply the school population by $5,000.00 and ask yourself why the hell we are cranking out a bunch of idiots that have to take remedial math courses upon signing up for college. They don't even teach History like they used to. Face it, the federal government needs to give Americans school vouchers so that they can choose what kind of education their children receive. Not to mention the millions of people who can't afford health
RE: RE: [RollTideFan] Hey...Jobu 602 huh? (Now 614)
Does that mean we agree? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 9:03 AM To: RollTideFan-The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List Subject:Re: RE: [RollTideFan] Hey...Jobu 602 huh? (Now 614) I've stayed out of this as long as I can. I received NO student loans, grants, etc. to attend college; my parents earned too much money.(yeah, right) But Dub and Earl could have gone to school for free since they lived in poverty. Instead, they decided to retread tires for a living @ 5.00/hr. Now I am supposed to feel sorry for them? If you are poor and can't support yourself: A) you yourself made poor career/education choices. B) you should not have a house full of children that taxpayers now have to clothe, feed AND educate. My conscience is completely clear. Sonja From: Joel Perry [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2004/04/08 Thu AM 08:17:49 EDT To: 'RollTideFan-The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [RollTideFan] Hey...Jobu 602 huh? (Now 614) I agree with you (Shiite!!) that the school systems are in need of one of them bridges built to those less fortunate. Interesting that you point out that we (although there is no 'we' in Federal Gubmint) spend $5-6000 a year in Federal dollars but then you also mention how the federal plutocracy wants to dictate what the schools can teach. Although I don't necessarily agree with it, the entity who pays for the education (the teacher's salary, the buildings, the expenses) can in fact dictate what is taught. Whoever holds the purse-strings gets to call the shots. Until the school systems are treated like a business and ran accordingly, we are in store for more of the same. As far as choosing what kind of education your child receives, you have that choice now: Moving to districts where the schools are better; sending your kids to private school and home-schooling are all valid options. What most people though are looking for are ways to have their children educated better, but at no direct cost to the parents. My opinion, differ with me if you like, is that it isn't the gubmint's responsibility to provide 'free' education to the mass population. If it is, then they get to dictate what is taught. If you, as a parent don't like it, fork over the money to move, send them to a private school or have one of the parents stay home and teach little Jimmy the A,B,C's. For schools to teach what the local parents want means the parents are going to have to pay for it. Having the parents pay $2-800 a month for their kids to be taught the way in which the parents feel is usually where the fight ends. (Talking about throwing money at a problem, I saw on the news where American troops were giving money to families (compensating them) who live in houses that were destroyed as part of the round-up of the bad guys. Wonder how much a clay and rock 3/2 rancher will fetch in a war-torn area with no electricity, water or roof?) And yes, there are millions of people who don't have running water. If that isn't the case, explain to me why the entire population of Tinnersee smells that way???:) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Joe Goodson Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2004 8:25 PM To: RollTideFan-The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List Subject: Re: [RollTideFan] Hey...Jobu 602 huh? Interesting that we (the American gubmint) can globe-hop and re-build schools and make sure all these fine folks have running water while there are schools in THIS country that don't have enough money\space\teachers\supplies\etc. Whoa!!! I know you didn't just say / type that. Consider this. Throwing money at problems has never done anything other than make them worse. Consider poverty. We throw money at it and subsidize fatherless babies and viola! More fatherless babies born into poverty stricken pseudo families! Think about a drug addict or an alcoholic. Keep throwing money at them and see what you get. So when you think about education, think about the $5-6,000 that we spend in federal dollars on each student every year. You know, about 25% of the middleschool students cannot find the United States on a world map? Can you believe that? It is not due to a lack of money. It is due to a federal plutocracy that wants to dictate what the schools can teach, i.e.. Heather has Two Mommies and other such crap. If you have a class of 25 students at $5,000 a pop, then you have 5,000 X 25= $125,000.00. After you pay a teacher about $30,000.00 that leaves $95,000.00. WTF happens to all that cash? And that is just from ONE classroom. Multiply the school population by $5,000.00 and ask yourself why the hell we are cranking out a bunch of idiots that have to take remedial math
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http://www.cw.ua.edu/vnews/display.v/ART/2004/04/08/4074dd206581b Season belonged to Antoine Pettway From Way Downtown Charlie Gasner April 08, 2004 Antoine Pettway is an autograph machine. These days, he has to be, if he wants half a chance at eating. Most of Alabama's players were able to move around enough to get a soda and a hors d'oeuvre at Tuesday night's Tide Pride/Tuscaloosa Tip-Off Club awards reception. Not Pettway. Chuck Davis had a handful of Sports Illustrated covers to sign, but Pettway was a human Department of Motor Vehicles. Want to talk to the senior point guard? Get in line. Wait. Everyone and their adorable 5-year-old child had something for Pettway to autograph. Basketballs. Pictures. Shoes. The guy was a leaf blower and a ratchet wrench away from putting his signature on one of everything in your dad's garage. You're the best point guard we've had here since T.R. Dunn, said one well-wisher. I'm sure I'll see you here again as Alabama's coach, said another fan. Coach Pettway? There's an interesting idea. I don't know [about coaching], Pettway said. That's sort of stressful. Point taken. Coaching - that's stressful. Tie game at Georgia with three seconds left? That's easy. Down three at Arkansas on the last possession of regulation? Piece of cake. Needing a basket to avoid elimination in the first round of the NCAA Tournament? Cash money. If this dude says he thinks something's stressful, you'd better believe him. Alabama will be able to replace [Pettway] in the first 38 minutes of a game, Alabama assistant coach Tom Asbury said. But in the last couple of minutes ... he's a special guy when the game is on the line. How close did Alabama come to missing the NCAA Tournament? At Georgia, the Bulldogs and Crimson Tide scuffed their way out to 42 points each before Pettway stuck a 3-pointer in the waning seconds of the game. At Arkansas, Pettway hit another 3 to send the game to overtime. At Auburn, Emmett Thomas hit the free throws that put Alabama ahead, but it was Pettway's floater on the previous possession that put Thomas in position to take the lead. How close did Alabama come to a one-and-done NCAA Tournament? With the game almost over and the shot clock off, Pettway took the ball into the lane, sidestepped a few Southern Illinois defenders and threw up a teardrop six-footer that kept the season going. It'll go down in history as Alabama's first Elite Eight run. But without Pettway, it's probably a field-of-65 run. Or an NIT run. So on one hand, Alabama only loses one starter this year. On the other, he just happens to be the heart of the team. There's no replacing Antoine, Davis said. He's done so much. Our guys have to step up and take command of the team like he's done these past four years. Pettway's time in a Crimson Tide uniform is up. After four years in college, he's graduating with a degree in health care management in May. But if he has it his way, he won't be putting that degree to use anytime soon. I'll weigh my options, Pettway said. I want to play professionally. What kind of professional league would pick up a basketball player who's listed very generously at 6 feet tall, an outside shooter whose 3-point shot looks like a gymnastics routine, and a point guard who doesn't throw flashy behind-the-back passes or slam highlight-reel dunks? The NBA, I hope, Pettway said. So what if Pettway's name doesn't pop up on the mock drafts? No one thought he could play college ball, either. Alabama coach Mark Gottfried only discovered Pettway when he went to check out another player. He didn't have a scholarship for Pettway, but Pettway walked on for a year and earned a scholarship anyway. He made a choice to come to Alabama and was determined to prove to our staff and everybody that he belonged there, Gottfried said. And he quickly did that. He isn't flashy, but he's as steady as they come - he averaged just 1.5 turnovers in 33 minutes per game this year. His assist-to-turnover ratio was the best in the SEC. His 3-point shot won't win any awards for form, but basketball players aren't scored on form. All that matters is he hit 39.1 percent of those trifectas in the past four years, good for sixth on the school's all-time list. He's probably closer to 5 feet 10 inches than 6 feet tall, but it's not as if he'll be asked to guard Yao Ming. After an NCAA Tournament win, Gottfried called Pettway The Little Engine That Could. Pettway still thinks he can. Would you bet against him? Charlie Gasner is sports editor of The Crimson White. __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup! To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net
Re: [RollTideFan] Hey...Jobu 602 huh? (Now 614)
In my not so humble opinion - Education starts at home. The public schools give kids a good introduction to various subjects. Then it's the parents job to take those introductions to higher levels. This is where the problem lies. I seriously doubt that even 10% of American households has even one parent who feels like it's their responsibility to expand on their children's education. Most parents think that because they pay a few dollars per week in the form of property taxes, the government owes their children Ivy League educations. Then you have the problem of all the IDIOT parents who aren't capable of balancing a check book, let alone helping to educate a child even if they wanted to. Taking the above into consideration, who honestly thinks spending more money on education will make a noticeable difference? I sure as hell don't. Sure, it will help some kids. Most likely the ones who are motivated and/or lucky enough to have a parent who can help them continue to learn when they get off the bus. Those kids are going to excel even with the bare minimum funding. For the average, or below average kid you'd have to spend enough money to hire each of them a personal tutor to see any difference. My point is, parents are the problem with education in this country. Not a lack of funding. Slef E. - Original Message - From: Joel Perry [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'RollTideFan-The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 6:17 AM Subject: RE: [RollTideFan] Hey...Jobu 602 huh? (Now 614) As far as choosing what kind of education your child receives, you have that choice now: Moving to districts where the schools are better; sending your kids to private school and home-schooling are all valid options. What most people though are looking for are ways to have their children educated better, but at no direct cost to the parents. My opinion, differ with me if you like, is that it isn't the gubmint's responsibility to provide 'free' education to the mass population. If it is, then they get to dictate what is taught. If you, as a parent don't like it, fork over the money to move, send them to a private school or have one of the parents stay home and teach little Jimmy the A,B,C's. __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup! To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net
Re: [RollTideFan] Shula caved
For $900k per - I'd bitch slap'em with an open hand! Slef E. - Original Message - From: Devan Orange [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'RollTideFan-The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 7:56 AM Subject: RE: [RollTideFan] Shula caved Maybe so, but if my boss walked up and told me to slap the person in the office next to me in the face I would tell him to take a long walk off a short plank! __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup! To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net
Re: RE: [RollTideFan] Hey...Jobu 602 huh? (Now 614)
GeezThis here chat board reeks of Libertarianismshe-oohJamie - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: RollTideFan-The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 10:02 AM Subject: Re: RE: [RollTideFan] Hey...Jobu 602 huh? (Now 614) I've stayed out of this as long as I can. I received NO student loans, grants, etc. to attend college; my parents earned too much money.(yeah, right) But Dub and Earl could have gone to school for free since they lived in poverty. Instead, they decided to retread tires for a living @ 5.00/hr. Now I am supposed to feel sorry for them? If you are poor and can't support yourself: A) you yourself made poor career/education choices. B) you should not have a house full of children that taxpayers now have to clothe, feed AND educate. My conscience is completely clear. Sonja From: Joel Perry [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2004/04/08 Thu AM 08:17:49 EDT To: 'RollTideFan-The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [RollTideFan] Hey...Jobu 602 huh? (Now 614) I agree with you (Shiite!!) that the school systems are in need of one of them bridges built to those less fortunate. Interesting that you point out that we (although there is no 'we' in Federal Gubmint) spend $5-6000 a year in Federal dollars but then you also mention how the federal plutocracy wants to dictate what the schools can teach. Although I don't necessarily agree with it, the entity who pays for the education (the teacher's salary, the buildings, the expenses) can in fact dictate what is taught. Whoever holds the purse-strings gets to call the shots. Until the school systems are treated like a business and ran accordingly, we are in store for more of the same. As far as choosing what kind of education your child receives, you have that choice now: Moving to districts where the schools are better; sending your kids to private school and home-schooling are all valid options. What most people though are looking for are ways to have their children educated better, but at no direct cost to the parents. My opinion, differ with me if you like, is that it isn't the gubmint's responsibility to provide 'free' education to the mass population. If it is, then they get to dictate what is taught. If you, as a parent don't like it, fork over the money to move, send them to a private school or have one of the parents stay home and teach little Jimmy the A,B,C's. For schools to teach what the local parents want means the parents are going to have to pay for it. Having the parents pay $2-800 a month for their kids to be taught the way in which the parents feel is usually where the fight ends. (Talking about throwing money at a problem, I saw on the news where American troops were giving money to families (compensating them) who live in houses that were destroyed as part of the round-up of the bad guys. Wonder how much a clay and rock 3/2 rancher will fetch in a war-torn area with no electricity, water or roof?) And yes, there are millions of people who don't have running water. If that isn't the case, explain to me why the entire population of Tinnersee smells that way???:) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Joe Goodson Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2004 8:25 PM To: RollTideFan-The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List Subject: Re: [RollTideFan] Hey...Jobu 602 huh? Interesting that we (the American gubmint) can globe-hop and re-build schools and make sure all these fine folks have running water while there are schools in THIS country that don't have enough money\space\teachers\supplies\etc. Whoa!!! I know you didn't just say / type that. Consider this. Throwing money at problems has never done anything other than make them worse. Consider poverty. We throw money at it and subsidize fatherless babies and viola! More fatherless babies born into poverty stricken pseudo families! Think about a drug addict or an alcoholic. Keep throwing money at them and see what you get. So when you think about education, think about the $5-6,000 that we spend in federal dollars on each student every year. You know, about 25% of the middleschool students cannot find the United States on a world map? Can you believe that? It is not due to a lack of money. It is due to a federal plutocracy that wants to dictate what the schools can teach, i.e.. Heather has Two Mommies and other such crap. If you have a class of 25 students at $5,000 a pop, then you have 5,000 X 25= $125,000.00. After you pay a teacher about $30,000.00 that leaves $95,000.00. WTF happens to all that cash? And that is just from ONE classroom. Multiply the school population by $5,000.00 and ask yourself why the hell we are cranking out a bunch
Re: [RollTideFan] Hey...Jobu Joe
Libertariannow you just need to vote that wayJamie - Original Message - From: Joel Perry [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'RollTideFan-The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 9:57 AM Subject: RE: [RollTideFan] Hey...Jobu Joe Don't forget about Tim, he has an opinion, although rarely valid. :) Since we can't agree on the Iraq issue (although I seem to be the only one left in the burning building), we need to find another topic to hash out. Ya know, since football is so un-controversial and all. So I'll offer my stance on a few issues and see if we can agree on anything: JoBu is pro-choice, pro-gun, anti-bussing. Let the gays marry (no one really cares what they do, but they're fun to watch). Anti-welfare (except for those really needing it), pro-nuclear power, anti-rodeo (surprise there huh?), semi-pro-pledge of allegiance, semi-anti-Ten Commandments in state\federal\public buildings (although I do like the movie), pro-Hooters, pro-death penalty, anti-instant replay, anti-dry ribs, anti-illegal aliens, anti-reparations (didcha see the article about the UofA professor who has uncovered that slaves helped build some of the buildings\worked for UofA and now he has developed a trial from them to their present day kinfolk and wants the UofA to make reparations???), pro-Michelin, anti-Goodyear. Pro-equal rights (but not the way the theory has declined into the actual practice), pro-excessive celebration in the endzone, anti-day games in 90 degree heat, anti-any game in BHAM, anti-prostate exam, pro-Starbucks. There. Who's next? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jamie Watts Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 8:29 AM To: RollTideFan-The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List Subject: Re: [RollTideFan] Hey...Jobu Joe Youse two is startin' to sound a lot like us drugged out LibertariansJamie - Original Message - From: Joel Perry [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'RollTideFan-The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 8:17 AM Subject: RE: [RollTideFan] Hey...Jobu 602 huh? (Now 614) I agree with you (Shiite!!) that the school systems are in need of one of them bridges built to those less fortunate. Interesting that you point out that we (although there is no 'we' in Federal Gubmint) spend $5-6000 a year in Federal dollars but then you also mention how the federal plutocracy wants to dictate what the schools can teach. Although I don't necessarily agree with it, the entity who pays for the education (the teacher's salary, the buildings, the expenses) can in fact dictate what is taught. Whoever holds the purse-strings gets to call the shots. Until the school systems are treated like a business and ran accordingly, we are in store for more of the same. As far as choosing what kind of education your child receives, you have that choice now: Moving to districts where the schools are better; sending your kids to private school and home-schooling are all valid options. What most people though are looking for are ways to have their children educated better, but at no direct cost to the parents. My opinion, differ with me if you like, is that it isn't the gubmint's responsibility to provide 'free' education to the mass population. If it is, then they get to dictate what is taught. If you, as a parent don't like it, fork over the money to move, send them to a private school or have one of the parents stay home and teach little Jimmy the A,B,C's. For schools to teach what the local parents want means the parents are going to have to pay for it. Having the parents pay $2-800 a month for their kids to be taught the way in which the parents feel is usually where the fight ends. (Talking about throwing money at a problem, I saw on the news where American troops were giving money to families (compensating them) who live in houses that were destroyed as part of the round-up of the bad guys. Wonder how much a clay and rock 3/2 rancher will fetch in a war-torn area with no electricity, water or roof?) And yes, there are millions of people who don't have running water. If that isn't the case, explain to me why the entire population of Tinnersee smells that way???:) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Joe Goodson Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2004 8:25 PM To: RollTideFan-The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List Subject: Re: [RollTideFan] Hey...Jobu 602 huh? Interesting that we (the American gubmint) can globe-hop and re-build schools and make sure all these fine folks have running water while there are schools in THIS country that don't have enough money\space\teachers\supplies\etc. Whoa!!! I know you didn't just say / type
Re: RE: [RollTideFan] Hey...Jobu 602 huh? (Now 614)
And I thought this was a Crimson Tide disscussion list. RTR LC --- Jamie Watts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: GeezThis here chat board reeks of Libertarianismshe-oohJamie - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: RollTideFan-The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 10:02 AM Subject: Re: RE: [RollTideFan] Hey...Jobu 602 huh? (Now 614) I've stayed out of this as long as I can. I received NO student loans, grants, etc. to attend college; my parents earned too much money.(yeah, right) But Dub and Earl could have gone to school for free since they lived in poverty. Instead, they decided to retread tires for a living @ 5.00/hr. Now I am supposed to feel sorry for them? If you are poor and can't support yourself: A) you yourself made poor career/education choices. B) you should not have a house full of children that taxpayers now have to clothe, feed AND educate. My conscience is completely clear. Sonja From: Joel Perry [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2004/04/08 Thu AM 08:17:49 EDT To: 'RollTideFan-The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [RollTideFan] Hey...Jobu 602 huh? (Now 614) I agree with you (Shiite!!) that the school systems are in need of one of them bridges built to those less fortunate. Interesting that you point out that we (although there is no 'we' in Federal Gubmint) spend $5-6000 a year in Federal dollars but then you also mention how the federal plutocracy wants to dictate what the schools can teach. Although I don't necessarily agree with it, the entity who pays for the education (the teacher's salary, the buildings, the expenses) can in fact dictate what is taught. Whoever holds the purse-strings gets to call the shots. Until the school systems are treated like a business and ran accordingly, we are in store for more of the same. As far as choosing what kind of education your child receives, you have that choice now: Moving to districts where the schools are better; sending your kids to private school and home-schooling are all valid options. What most people though are looking for are ways to have their children educated better, but at no direct cost to the parents. My opinion, differ with me if you like, is that it isn't the gubmint's responsibility to provide 'free' education to the mass population. If it is, then they get to dictate what is taught. If you, as a parent don't like it, fork over the money to move, send them to a private school or have one of the parents stay home and teach little Jimmy the A,B,C's. For schools to teach what the local parents want means the parents are going to have to pay for it. Having the parents pay $2-800 a month for their kids to be taught the way in which the parents feel is usually where the fight ends. (Talking about throwing money at a problem, I saw on the news where American troops were giving money to families (compensating them) who live in houses that were destroyed as part of the round-up of the bad guys. Wonder how much a clay and rock 3/2 rancher will fetch in a war-torn area with no electricity, water or roof?) And yes, there are millions of people who don't have running water. If that isn't the case, explain to me why the entire population of Tinnersee smells that way???:) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Joe Goodson Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2004 8:25 PM To: RollTideFan-The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List Subject: Re: [RollTideFan] Hey...Jobu 602 huh? Interesting that we (the American gubmint) can globe-hop and re-build schools and make sure all these fine folks have running water while there are schools in THIS country that don't have enough money\space\teachers\supplies\etc. Whoa!!! I know you didn't just say / type that. Consider this. Throwing money at problems has never done anything other than make them worse. Consider poverty. We throw money at it and subsidize fatherless babies and viola! More fatherless babies born into poverty stricken pseudo families! Think about a drug addict or an alcoholic. Keep throwing money at them and see what you get. So when you think about education, think about the $5-6,000 that we spend in federal dollars on each student every year. You know, about 25% of the middleschool students cannot find the United States on a world map? Can you believe that? It is not due to a lack of money. It is due to a federal plutocracy that wants to dictate what the schools can teach, i.e.. Heather has Two Mommies and other such crap. If you have a class of 25 students at $5,000 a
Re[2]: [RollTideFan] Shula caved
Thursday, April 8, 2004, 11:11:27 AM, Sleffir-Poo wrote: For $900k per - I'd bitch slap'em with an open hand! I'd do it for free! If I worked next to HuGe then I'd pay for the opportunity. __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup! To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net
Re: Re[2]: [RollTideFan] Shula caved
I would gladly bitch slap Little Jimmie, free of charge. RTR LC --- M Laborde [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thursday, April 8, 2004, 11:11:27 AM, Sleffir-Poo wrote: For $900k per - I'd bitch slap'em with an open hand! I'd do it for free! If I worked next to HuGe then I'd pay for the opportunity. __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup! To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business $15K Web Design Giveaway http://promotions.yahoo.com/design_giveaway/ __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup! To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net
Re: Re[2]: [RollTideFan] Shula caved
AND YOU KNOW IT! Slef E. - Original Message - From: M Laborde [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: RollTideFan-The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 1:02 PM Subject: Re[2]: [RollTideFan] Shula caved If I worked next to HuGe then I'd pay for the opportunity. __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup! To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net
[RollTideFan] Braves announcers
Iyam having brane lock. During the 80's the Braves had Skip Caray, Pete Professor van Weiren, Ernie Johnson and somebunny else. Who? kurt __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup! To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net
Re: [RollTideFan] Hey...Jobu 602 huh? (Now 614)
Ok, we agree that the school system should be ran as a business. Good. Business environments breed competition, and competition breeds innovation and invention and higher standards. It is refreshing to see a post from you that makes sense. :-) Joe Wish not so much to live long as to live well. - Benjamin Franklin, Poor Richard's Almanack, 1746 - Original Message - From: Joel Perry [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'RollTideFan-The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 7:17 AM Subject: RE: [RollTideFan] Hey...Jobu 602 huh? (Now 614) I agree with you (Shiite!!) that the school systems are in need of one of them bridges built to those less fortunate. Interesting that you point out that we (although there is no 'we' in Federal Gubmint) spend $5-6000 a year in Federal dollars but then you also mention how the federal plutocracy wants to dictate what the schools can teach. Although I don't necessarily agree with it, the entity who pays for the education (the teacher's salary, the buildings, the expenses) can in fact dictate what is taught. Whoever holds the purse-strings gets to call the shots. Until the school systems are treated like a business and ran accordingly, we are in store for more of the same. As far as choosing what kind of education your child receives, you have that choice now: Moving to districts where the schools are better; sending your kids to private school and home-schooling are all valid options. What most people though are looking for are ways to have their children educated better, but at no direct cost to the parents. My opinion, differ with me if you like, is that it isn't the gubmint's responsibility to provide 'free' education to the mass population. If it is, then they get to dictate what is taught. If you, as a parent don't like it, fork over the money to move, send them to a private school or have one of the parents stay home and teach little Jimmy the A,B,C's. For schools to teach what the local parents want means the parents are going to have to pay for it. Having the parents pay $2-800 a month for their kids to be taught the way in which the parents feel is usually where the fight ends. (Talking about throwing money at a problem, I saw on the news where American troops were giving money to families (compensating them) who live in houses that were destroyed as part of the round-up of the bad guys. Wonder how much a clay and rock 3/2 rancher will fetch in a war-torn area with no electricity, water or roof?) And yes, there are millions of people who don't have running water. If that isn't the case, explain to me why the entire population of Tinnersee smells that way???:) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Joe Goodson Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2004 8:25 PM To: RollTideFan-The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List Subject: Re: [RollTideFan] Hey...Jobu 602 huh? Interesting that we (the American gubmint) can globe-hop and re-build schools and make sure all these fine folks have running water while there are schools in THIS country that don't have enough money\space\teachers\supplies\etc. Whoa!!! I know you didn't just say / type that. Consider this. Throwing money at problems has never done anything other than make them worse. Consider poverty. We throw money at it and subsidize fatherless babies and viola! More fatherless babies born into poverty stricken pseudo families! Think about a drug addict or an alcoholic. Keep throwing money at them and see what you get. So when you think about education, think about the $5-6,000 that we spend in federal dollars on each student every year. You know, about 25% of the middleschool students cannot find the United States on a world map? Can you believe that? It is not due to a lack of money. It is due to a federal plutocracy that wants to dictate what the schools can teach, i.e.. Heather has Two Mommies and other such crap. If you have a class of 25 students at $5,000 a pop, then you have 5,000 X 25= $125,000.00. After you pay a teacher about $30,000.00 that leaves $95,000.00. WTF happens to all that cash? And that is just from ONE classroom. Multiply the school population by $5,000.00 and ask yourself why the hell we are cranking out a bunch of idiots that have to take remedial math courses upon signing up for college. They don't even teach History like they used to. Face it, the federal government needs to give Americans school vouchers so that they can choose what kind of education their children receive. Not to mention the millions of people who can't afford health care; who can't find decent housing; who don't have running water. OH puhlease! Do you actually think that there are MILLIONS of people in America without running water in their house? Joe There is a rank due to the United States, among
Re: [RollTideFan] Shula caved
Give the man a break and let him coach. Why is everyone making a mountain out of a mole hill? This ain't that damned important. Joe Wish not so much to live long as to live well. - Benjamin Franklin, Poor Richard's Almanack, 1746 - Original Message - From: Devan Orange [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'RollTideFan-The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 8:39 AM Subject: RE: [RollTideFan] Shula caved I think after I had changed the award I would have called Croom and said, Hey dude. I made my decision and it's final. We'll make another award for you when you are done at MSU, or we will change it back then. Definitely a wimpy position CMS has himself in... -Original Message- Slef posted: http://www.al.com/sports/huntsvilletimes/index.ssf?/base/sports/108118720519 8450.xml Shula apologizes to Croom 04/05/04 From staff reports Huntsville Times - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, April 05, 2004 12:40 PM Subject: [RollTideFan] Shula caved ($1) to Slef and changed it back. kurt __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup! To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup! To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net
Re: [RollTideFan] Hey...Jobu Joe
Hey.I used to be drugged out. But that was 11 years ago. So does that make me a drugged out Republican? Joe Wish not so much to live long as to live well. - Benjamin Franklin, Poor Richard's Almanack, 1746 - Original Message - From: Jamie Watts [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: RollTideFan-The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 8:28 AM Subject: Re: [RollTideFan] Hey...Jobu Joe Youse two is startin' to sound a lot like us drugged out LibertariansJamie - Original Message - From: Joel Perry [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'RollTideFan-The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 8:17 AM Subject: RE: [RollTideFan] Hey...Jobu 602 huh? (Now 614) I agree with you (Shiite!!) that the school systems are in need of one of them bridges built to those less fortunate. Interesting that you point out that we (although there is no 'we' in Federal Gubmint) spend $5-6000 a year in Federal dollars but then you also mention how the federal plutocracy wants to dictate what the schools can teach. Although I don't necessarily agree with it, the entity who pays for the education (the teacher's salary, the buildings, the expenses) can in fact dictate what is taught. Whoever holds the purse-strings gets to call the shots. Until the school systems are treated like a business and ran accordingly, we are in store for more of the same. As far as choosing what kind of education your child receives, you have that choice now: Moving to districts where the schools are better; sending your kids to private school and home-schooling are all valid options. What most people though are looking for are ways to have their children educated better, but at no direct cost to the parents. My opinion, differ with me if you like, is that it isn't the gubmint's responsibility to provide 'free' education to the mass population. If it is, then they get to dictate what is taught. If you, as a parent don't like it, fork over the money to move, send them to a private school or have one of the parents stay home and teach little Jimmy the A,B,C's. For schools to teach what the local parents want means the parents are going to have to pay for it. Having the parents pay $2-800 a month for their kids to be taught the way in which the parents feel is usually where the fight ends. (Talking about throwing money at a problem, I saw on the news where American troops were giving money to families (compensating them) who live in houses that were destroyed as part of the round-up of the bad guys. Wonder how much a clay and rock 3/2 rancher will fetch in a war-torn area with no electricity, water or roof?) And yes, there are millions of people who don't have running water. If that isn't the case, explain to me why the entire population of Tinnersee smells that way???:) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Joe Goodson Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2004 8:25 PM To: RollTideFan-The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List Subject: Re: [RollTideFan] Hey...Jobu 602 huh? Interesting that we (the American gubmint) can globe-hop and re-build schools and make sure all these fine folks have running water while there are schools in THIS country that don't have enough money\space\teachers\supplies\etc. Whoa!!! I know you didn't just say / type that. Consider this. Throwing money at problems has never done anything other than make them worse. Consider poverty. We throw money at it and subsidize fatherless babies and viola! More fatherless babies born into poverty stricken pseudo families! Think about a drug addict or an alcoholic. Keep throwing money at them and see what you get. So when you think about education, think about the $5-6,000 that we spend in federal dollars on each student every year. You know, about 25% of the middleschool students cannot find the United States on a world map? Can you believe that? It is not due to a lack of money. It is due to a federal plutocracy that wants to dictate what the schools can teach, i.e.. Heather has Two Mommies and other such crap. If you have a class of 25 students at $5,000 a pop, then you have 5,000 X 25= $125,000.00. After you pay a teacher about $30,000.00 that leaves $95,000.00. WTF happens to all that cash? And that is just from ONE classroom. Multiply the school population by $5,000.00 and ask yourself why the hell we are cranking out a bunch of idiots that have to take remedial math courses upon signing up for college. They don't even teach History like they used to. Face it, the federal government needs to give Americans school vouchers so that they can choose what kind of education their children receive. Not to mention the millions of people
Re: RE: [RollTideFan] Hey...Jobu 602 huh? (Now 614)
I could not agree more. Joe Wish not so much to live long as to live well. - Benjamin Franklin, Poor Richard's Almanack, 1746 - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: RollTideFan-The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 9:02 AM Subject: Re: RE: [RollTideFan] Hey...Jobu 602 huh? (Now 614) I've stayed out of this as long as I can. I received NO student loans, grants, etc. to attend college; my parents earned too much money.(yeah, right) But Dub and Earl could have gone to school for free since they lived in poverty. Instead, they decided to retread tires for a living @ 5.00/hr. Now I am supposed to feel sorry for them? If you are poor and can't support yourself: A) you yourself made poor career/education choices. B) you should not have a house full of children that taxpayers now have to clothe, feed AND educate. My conscience is completely clear. Sonja __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup! To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net
Re: [RollTideFan] Braves announcers
Looks like they had three somebunny elses. Witch won waz ewe triedin two a men burr? Slef E. - Original Message - From: kurt rasmussen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: RollTideFan-The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 7:09 PM Subject: Re: [RollTideFan] Braves announcers kurt rasmussen wrote: Iyam having brane lock. During the 80's the Braves had Skip Caray, Pete Professor van Weiren, Ernie Johnson and somebunny else. Who? Nebbermind. Google was my friend. http://www.homestead.com/ClassicRadio2/AtlantaBraves.html kurt __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup! To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup! To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net
Re: [RollTideFan] Hey...Jobu 602 huh? (Now 614)
I agree. Parents are the main problem. But a federal government agency dictating what the schools can and cannot teach doesn't help. The don't teach American History anymore. Or at least not enough of it. What else have they phased out of the curriculum? Joe Wish not so much to live long as to live well. - Benjamin Franklin, Poor Richard's Almanack, 1746 - Original Message - From: Jeff Todd [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: RollTideFan-The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 11:05 AM Subject: Re: [RollTideFan] Hey...Jobu 602 huh? (Now 614) In my not so humble opinion - Education starts at home. The public schools give kids a good introduction to various subjects. Then it's the parents job to take those introductions to higher levels. This is where the problem lies. I seriously doubt that even 10% of American households has even one parent who feels like it's their responsibility to expand on their children's education. Most parents think that because they pay a few dollars per week in the form of property taxes, the government owes their children Ivy League educations. Then you have the problem of all the IDIOT parents who aren't capable of balancing a check book, let alone helping to educate a child even if they wanted to. Taking the above into consideration, who honestly thinks spending more money on education will make a noticeable difference? I sure as hell don't. Sure, it will help some kids. Most likely the ones who are motivated and/or lucky enough to have a parent who can help them continue to learn when they get off the bus. Those kids are going to excel even with the bare minimum funding. For the average, or below average kid you'd have to spend enough money to hire each of them a personal tutor to see any difference. My point is, parents are the problem with education in this country. Not a lack of funding. Slef E. - Original Message - From: Joel Perry [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'RollTideFan-The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 6:17 AM Subject: RE: [RollTideFan] Hey...Jobu 602 huh? (Now 614) As far as choosing what kind of education your child receives, you have that choice now: Moving to districts where the schools are better; sending your kids to private school and home-schooling are all valid options. What most people though are looking for are ways to have their children educated better, but at no direct cost to the parents. My opinion, differ with me if you like, is that it isn't the gubmint's responsibility to provide 'free' education to the mass population. If it is, then they get to dictate what is taught. If you, as a parent don't like it, fork over the money to move, send them to a private school or have one of the parents stay home and teach little Jimmy the A,B,C's. __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup! To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup! To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net
Re: [RollTideFan] Braves announcers
Jeff Todd wrote: Looks like they had three somebunny elses. Witch won waz ewe triedin two a men burr? John Sterling. http://www.homestead.com/ClassicRadio/Sterling_John.html From birth to 1975 I had no cable. From 1975 until 1979 I partied and my parents didn't even know! (and I didn't care about their cable TV) From 1979 until 1982/1983, I think I was on my own and I donut remember hardly any of it! Gawd I was bullet proof. WHOOPTH!!1!~ Then I kindly quit the hard livin' and decided that staying home watching the Braves on the tube was a cool thing to do. EVERY GAME. EVERY NIGHT. HARD CORE! Until the kids came along in '87. Then I started to mellow...:) kurt __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup! To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net
Re: [RollTideFan] Shula caved
You answered your own question, Joe. Shula needs to worry about coaching instead of whose name is on a fsckin' trophy! Slef E. - Original Message - From: Joe Goodson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: RollTideFan-The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 7:36 PM Subject: Re: [RollTideFan] Shula caved Give the man a break and let him coach. Why is everyone making a mountain out of a mole hill? This ain't that damned important. __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup! To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net
Re: [RollTideFan] Hey...Jobu 602 huh? (Now 614)
Joe, They didn't teach American History when my DADDY was in school. Slef E. - Original Message - From: Joe Goodson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: RollTideFan-The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 7:56 PM Subject: Re: [RollTideFan] Hey...Jobu 602 huh? (Now 614) I agree. Parents are the main problem. But a federal government agency dictating what the schools can and cannot teach doesn't help. The don't teach American History anymore. Or at least not enough of it. What else have they phased out of the curriculum? __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup! To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net
Re: [RollTideFan] Hey...Jobu 602 huh? (Now 614)
Hmm, they did when I was in school. But I got part of my schooling in NC. I moved back to Bama when I was 14. Joe Joe Wish not so much to live long as to live well. - Benjamin Franklin, Poor Richard's Almanack, 1746 - Original Message - From: Jeff Todd [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: RollTideFan-The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 10:50 PM Subject: Re: [RollTideFan] Hey...Jobu 602 huh? (Now 614) Joe, They didn't teach American History when my DADDY was in school. Slef E. - Original Message - From: Joe Goodson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: RollTideFan-The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 7:56 PM Subject: Re: [RollTideFan] Hey...Jobu 602 huh? (Now 614) I agree. Parents are the main problem. But a federal government agency dictating what the schools can and cannot teach doesn't help. The don't teach American History anymore. Or at least not enough of it. What else have they phased out of the curriculum? __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup! To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup! To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net
Re: [RollTideFan] Shula caved
I agree. Wish not so much to live long as to live well. - Benjamin Franklin, Poor Richard's Almanack, 1746 - Original Message - From: Jeff Todd [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: RollTideFan-The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 10:48 PM Subject: Re: [RollTideFan] Shula caved You answered your own question, Joe. Shula needs to worry about coaching instead of whose name is on a fsckin' trophy! Slef E. - Original Message - From: Joe Goodson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: RollTideFan-The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 7:36 PM Subject: Re: [RollTideFan] Shula caved Give the man a break and let him coach. Why is everyone making a mountain out of a mole hill? This ain't that damned important. __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup! To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup! To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net
