[RollTideFan] Preseason Rankings

2004-07-16 Thread Rick McMahan
Something to pass the time...
http://preseason.stassen.com/consensus/2004.html
Roll Tide!
Rick

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[RollTideFan] North Alabama Legend down... (non)

2004-07-16 Thread kurtrasmussen
*:(
http://www.whnt.com/global/story.asp?s=2051112&ClientType=Printable
Weather legend H. D. Bagley has died at age 87*
*July 16, 2004*
Weather legend H. D. Bagley has died at age 87. He passed away at a 
local hospital Friday.

Many people in the Tennessee Valley will remember H. D. Bagley. He was a 
meteorologist at NewsChannel 19 from 1963 to 1979. 

NewsChannel 19's Jerry Hays says, "We here at Newschannel 19 lost a 
great friend today."

Senior Reporter Steve Johnson worked alongside H. D. He says,"I came to 
work at the station in 1977, and H. D. was here for another two years. 
Of course, like everyone else in the Tennessee Valley, I already knew 
that H.D. was the guy you turned to when you needed to know what the 
weather was going to do."

"H.D., of course, was a meteorologist with the Army when he came to work 
with Newschannel 19 in 1963. That was the year the station signed on. H. 
D. would go full-time, and he would make his reputation as a calm, no 
nonsense, straight shooting weather man," Steve continues. 

"I always thought that his decades spent living in Huntsville gave him 
an extra insight into our weather. I know that after he retired, he 
still kept records of the weather in his own neighborhood. H. D. Bagley 
was a meteorologist who got in the business to save lives, and there's 
no doubt in my mind, he did just that," he adds.

For many folks who've lived here a long time, Hubert Drew Bagley, H. D., 
was /the/ weather man.

H. D. went to work part time for Newschannel 19 when the station signed 
on back in 1963. He eventually retired from his Army meteorologist job 
and became the full-time weather man. His 16-year career included 
everything from the tornado of 1974 to the hot summers and winter 
snowfalls that every forecaster deals with.

H. D. worked in a time when the technology was very primitive by today's 
standards, but he was a meteorologist, not just a pretty face. He 
retired in 1979, but he still took weather measurements in his Montesano 
backyard every day.

H. D. was a man who went into the business because of a deadly tornado 
in Forsythe, Georgia that he saw as a young man. He wanted to save 
lives, and he very likely did.

Although H. D. Bagley hasn't done the weather for 25 years, at a 
rememberance of the killer tornados of 1974, he got a standing ovation 
from a room full of weather experts.

"He was quite a guy, and he made a difference in the Tennessee 
Valley," says Steve.

H.D. Bagley wasn't just a pretty face in front of the weather board. In 
his heyday, technology wasn't what it is now. But H. D. was definitely a 
weather man's weather man.

John Gordon of the National Weather Service says, "Before we had 
Dopplers and chroma keys and all these fancy computers and all of that, 
he was a level headed calm voice in the storm."

Bob Knowles of Huntsville says, "You just knew that H. D. knew his 
stuff. He knew what the people around here needed to have. He's one of us."

Georgia native Hubert Drew Bagley was born in 1917. In World War II, H. 
D. served in the Navy. He was a meteorologist for the Army at Redstone 
Arsenal when he went to work part time for WHNT.

Over his 16 year career, he was the kind of weather man who told his 
audience what they needed to know because he knew it.

"It was such a pleasure to have a guy who was actually a professional 
meteorologist at a time when television took disc jockeys, or somebody 
who was a nice bubbly sparkly personality, but they couldn't do the 
weather--not when you really needed to know the weather," says Bob Knowles.

Knowles worked with H. D. at Newschannel 19, and he says H. D. was 
almost a teacher in his weathercasts. 

"What's an isobar? I don't know what an isobar is, but if it was 
important to H. D., then it ought to be important to the rest of us. So 
you got the idea when you finished seeing his weather presentation, you 
knew what was going to happen," Knowles continues.

Huntsville native Bobby Davis remembers growing up with H. D. and his 
maps. He says, "Well, as a kid, I remember most everybody taking H. D. 
Bagley's forecasts to heart. Everybody said, 'What does H. D. say about 
the weather,' or 'What's going to happen? What weather event is going to 
come next.'"

H. D. knew. He was working the night the tornado of 1974 crossed over 
Montesano and made everyone leave the station for a nearby ditch. That 
was about the only time H. D. Bagley wasn't in the weather center doing 
the job for which he becamse justifiably famous.

There was something else H. D. was known for: the way he ended his 
weather casts every Friday. H. D. Bagley always said, "Have a good 
weekend, and wherever you go, go to church Sunday. Good night."

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RE: [RollTideFan] (no subject)

2004-07-16 Thread Rick McMahan
Well I wonder what Mr. Coe has to say about this. He must have short term
memory loss or a very smart lawyer.

Roll Tide!
Rick

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FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE:  CONTACT:
Thursday, July 15, 2004 Erik Christianson
Director of Public and Media Relations
317/917-6117


http://www.ncaa.org/releases/miscellaneous/2004/2004071501ms.htm

STATEMENT BY NCAA VICE-PRESIDENT FOR ENFORCEMENT SERVICES DAVID PRICE ON
STATEMENTS MADE BY COACH CHARLES COE


"The NCAA enforcement staff has been made aware of comments made
yesterday by Mr. Charles Coe, head football coach at Alabama State
University, in which he said he was unaware that his interview with the
NCAA was tape recorded. Coach Coe also said that he believed a
memorandum summarizing the taped interview was inaccurate and misleading."

"Coach Coe's comments are in error. NCAA enforcement staff has reviewed
a copy of that interview and found that Coach Coe was informed, at the
beginning of the taped interview, that the interview was being taped
with his consent. On the tape, Coach Coe acknowledged the taping without
objection. In addition, NCAA enforcement staff has again reviewed the
tape and found that the memorandum summarizing it is an accurate
portrayal of the interview."


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[RollTideFan] (no subject)

2004-07-16 Thread kurtrasmussen
   FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE:   CONTACT:
Thursday, July 15, 2004 Erik Christianson
Director of Public and Media Relations
317/917-6117
http://www.ncaa.org/releases/miscellaneous/2004/2004071501ms.htm
STATEMENT BY NCAA VICE-PRESIDENT FOR ENFORCEMENT SERVICES DAVID PRICE ON 
STATEMENTS MADE BY COACH CHARLES COE

"The NCAA enforcement staff has been made aware of comments made 
yesterday by Mr. Charles Coe, head football coach at Alabama State 
University, in which he said he was unaware that his interview with the 
NCAA was tape recorded. Coach Coe also said that he believed a 
memorandum summarizing the taped interview was inaccurate and misleading."

"Coach Coe's comments are in error. NCAA enforcement staff has reviewed 
a copy of that interview and found that Coach Coe was informed, at the 
beginning of the taped interview, that the interview was being taped 
with his consent. On the tape, Coach Coe acknowledged the taping without 
objection. In addition, NCAA enforcement staff has again reviewed the 
tape and found that the memorandum summarizing it is an accurate 
portrayal of the interview."

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Re: [RollTideFan] Good Things Coming?

2004-07-16 Thread Steven Johnson
I believe.

Roll Damn Tide
LC

--- Rick McMahan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> Roll Tide Roll!!
> Rick
> 
> 
> CECIL HURT: 'Outsiders’ see good things coming to
> Tide
> 
> There is something that takes root every year about
> this time around the 
> University of Alabama football program, no matter
> what is done to 
> eradicate it. Obviously, we’re not talking about
> grass. We’re talking 
> about optimism.
> 
> It’s only natural, with football season less than
> eight weeks away, that 
> Crimson Tide fans would be encouraged about the
> upcoming season. What’s 
> different about this year, though, is that some of
> the brightest 
> sunshine seems to be coming from outside Tuscaloosa.
> 
> For instance, take Phil Steele’s 2004 Football
> Preview, a magazine that 
> won high marks for prescience a year ago when it
> predicted not only a 
> fifth-place SEC West finish for Alabama, but also
> correctly tabbed LSU 
> instead of 2003’s trendy pick, Auburn, to win the
> division.
> 
> This year, Steele has a seat near the front of the
> Alabama bandwagon, 
> predicting that the Tide will be second “most
> improved" team in the 
> country. (To the chagrin of some Tide fans, he
> thinks the most improved 
> will be Texas A&M, and, in keeping with the
> “ex-Alabama coaches" theme, 
> he tabs UTEP as the third most improved.) Steele
> picks Alabama second in 
> the division and boldly states that Alabama could
> “swagger into 
> Knoxville" with a 7-0 record in October.
> 
> On top of that, the Las Vegas Review-Journal
> reported earlier this week 
> that one of the most popular propositions this
> summer in Nevada, where 
> one can legally wager, is “Alabama over-7." That
> means that people are 
> risking green, folding money on a proposition that
> pays off only if the 
> Crimson Tide wins more than seven games this season,
> and the assumption 
> is that not all those people are Alabama fans.
> 
> So why is America, or at least some of America,
> bullish on Crimson Tide 
> football for 2004? Is it simply a case where they
> look at the crimson 
> jerseys and the history books, and don’t realize the
> modern-day reality 
> that NCAA sanctions have created? Or are some people
> in Tuscaloosa, 
> hardened by a four-year stretch in which misery has
> been relieved only 
> by occasional treachery, simply refuse to expect
> anything good to 
> happen, even if they should?
> 
> That’s the mystery of the upcoming season, and part
> of its intrigue. For 
> my part, it’s too early to start throwing around
> predictions. There are 
> still recruits in limbo, and academic issues to be
> resolved for some 
> current players. There are players like A.C. Carter,
> who might be major 
> contributors or might still have health issues to
> overcome.
> 
> Injury may be the No. 2 variable (behind coaching)
> in determining this 
> team’s destiny. It will be easier to weigh those
> variables in late 
> August, not mid-July
> 
> Every one of those issues is magnified because
> Alabama is not as deep as 
> many of the teams it plays. The schedule, in which
> the most difficult 
> games seems to be loaded onto the back end, could be
> a blessing, or a 
> curse, depending on how things go in September.
> 
> When there are that many variables, Alabama-watchers
> can be excused if 
> they expect at least a few to go sour. The last four
> years would do 
> that, even to the most stout-hearted loyalist. It’s
> a direct reversal of 
> the Alabama attitude in the 1960s and 1970s, when
> Crimson Tide fans 
> assumed that even if things did go wrong at some
> point, “Coach Bryant 
> will fix it."
> 
> It probably won’t take a lot of success to start
> Alabama fans thinking 
> that way again, though. And it has to be encouraging
> that at least a few 
> people who aren’t anywhere close to Alabama think
> that good things just 
> might happen.
> 
> Reach Cecil Hurt at [EMAIL PROTECTED] or
> (205) 722-0225.
> 
> 
> 
>
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Re: [RollTideFan] Hey Ron and Sonja

2004-07-16 Thread kurtrasmussen
From: "Betsy Duke" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> 
>   Hey Ron and Sonja - when you have a minute could one of you email me
> personally please? Thanks!!

Menage a trois!!1! 

WHOOPTH! 

kurt


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[RollTideFan] Hey Ron and Sonja

2004-07-16 Thread Betsy Duke
  Hey Ron and Sonja - when you have a minute could one of you email me
personally please? Thanks!!
  --Betsy
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[RollTideFan] Good Things Coming?

2004-07-16 Thread Rick McMahan
Roll Tide Roll!!
Rick
CECIL HURT: 'Outsiders’ see good things coming to Tide
There is something that takes root every year about this time around the 
University of Alabama football program, no matter what is done to 
eradicate it. Obviously, we’re not talking about grass. We’re talking 
about optimism.

It’s only natural, with football season less than eight weeks away, that 
Crimson Tide fans would be encouraged about the upcoming season. What’s 
different about this year, though, is that some of the brightest 
sunshine seems to be coming from outside Tuscaloosa.

For instance, take Phil Steele’s 2004 Football Preview, a magazine that 
won high marks for prescience a year ago when it predicted not only a 
fifth-place SEC West finish for Alabama, but also correctly tabbed LSU 
instead of 2003’s trendy pick, Auburn, to win the division.

This year, Steele has a seat near the front of the Alabama bandwagon, 
predicting that the Tide will be second “most improved" team in the 
country. (To the chagrin of some Tide fans, he thinks the most improved 
will be Texas A&M, and, in keeping with the “ex-Alabama coaches" theme, 
he tabs UTEP as the third most improved.) Steele picks Alabama second in 
the division and boldly states that Alabama could “swagger into 
Knoxville" with a 7-0 record in October.

On top of that, the Las Vegas Review-Journal reported earlier this week 
that one of the most popular propositions this summer in Nevada, where 
one can legally wager, is “Alabama over-7." That means that people are 
risking green, folding money on a proposition that pays off only if the 
Crimson Tide wins more than seven games this season, and the assumption 
is that not all those people are Alabama fans.

So why is America, or at least some of America, bullish on Crimson Tide 
football for 2004? Is it simply a case where they look at the crimson 
jerseys and the history books, and don’t realize the modern-day reality 
that NCAA sanctions have created? Or are some people in Tuscaloosa, 
hardened by a four-year stretch in which misery has been relieved only 
by occasional treachery, simply refuse to expect anything good to 
happen, even if they should?

That’s the mystery of the upcoming season, and part of its intrigue. For 
my part, it’s too early to start throwing around predictions. There are 
still recruits in limbo, and academic issues to be resolved for some 
current players. There are players like A.C. Carter, who might be major 
contributors or might still have health issues to overcome.

Injury may be the No. 2 variable (behind coaching) in determining this 
team’s destiny. It will be easier to weigh those variables in late 
August, not mid-July

Every one of those issues is magnified because Alabama is not as deep as 
many of the teams it plays. The schedule, in which the most difficult 
games seems to be loaded onto the back end, could be a blessing, or a 
curse, depending on how things go in September.

When there are that many variables, Alabama-watchers can be excused if 
they expect at least a few to go sour. The last four years would do 
that, even to the most stout-hearted loyalist. It’s a direct reversal of 
the Alabama attitude in the 1960s and 1970s, when Crimson Tide fans 
assumed that even if things did go wrong at some point, “Coach Bryant 
will fix it."

It probably won’t take a lot of success to start Alabama fans thinking 
that way again, though. And it has to be encouraging that at least a few 
people who aren’t anywhere close to Alabama think that good things just 
might happen.

Reach Cecil Hurt at [EMAIL PROTECTED] or (205) 722-0225.

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[RollTideFan] Marsh takes over Yeagers job.

2004-07-16 Thread Steven Johnson
Interesting.

RTR
LC

 

Tide's Marsh gets new job: Infractions chief
Friday, July 16, 2004
Gene Marsh was excited. Almost bubbly even. You could
hear it in his voice over the phone Thursday
afternoon.

And why not?

His son Elliott's Dixie Youth baseball team just won
its district championship and is headed to Troy for
the state tournament.

"That's my only comment about sports," Marsh said.
"The Infractions Committee doesn't matter. My son's
all-star team does."

Marsh would not comment on the impending development
that will put him and the committee back in the news,
at least in a state where the NCAA justice system is
always a hot topic.

The Alabama law professor is about to move up from
vice-chair to chairman of the NCAA Infractions
Committee. The former faculty rep is going to be the
chief justice on the second highest court in the land
of college sports.

Second highest because the NCAA Infractions Appeals
Committee does have the power to overturn the
decisions of the Infractions Committee.

Of course, that happens about as often as Tommy
Gallion and Phillip Fulmer go to dinner together.

Marsh is going to succeed Thomas Yeager as the
Infractions Committee chairman. Yeager is the
commissioner of the Colonial Athletic Association, but
around here, he's better known as the man who pointed
a shotgun at Alabama football and a popgun at Auburn
basketball.

You don't chair the Infractions Committee in search of
popularity. Yeager's not at the top of every Alabama
football fan's Enemies List - the only poll in which
Fulmer is No. 1 - but the outgoing chairman makes the
top 10.

Marsh, who's in his second three-year term on the
Infractions Committee, said he didn't want to comment
because his appointment is not official. It's not, but
it's only a matter of time.

The Division I Management Council will meet Monday and
Tuesday in Baltimore. One of the items on its agenda
is to vote on a new Infractions Committee chairman.

That vote is expected to be a formality. According to
the Management Council meeting's written agenda, the
Infractions Committee met in June and voted to
recommend that Marsh succeed Yeager as chairman.

Marsh's term will begin Sept. 1 and run for two years.

What does this mean for Alabama? It's an honor to have
one of your own chosen for such an important position,
but as the school knows, friends in high places don't
always help you beat the rap.

His Infractions Committee colleagues praised Marsh at
the conclusion of Alabama's last football case even as
they buried the program.

If the Tide goes on trial again, no one will be able
to save it.

But Marsh as chairman could be the best thing to
happen to major programs accused of major violations
because he's been on both sides. He's the right person
to hold the enforcement staff to the same high
standard as the schools it investigates.

The last chairman never felt the pain of a guilty
verdict and a harsh sentence aimed at a school he
defended. The new chairman has.

That's why Marsh is sure to demand that the people
charged with nabbing the NCAA's lawbreakers follow the
NCAA's laws every step of the way.

Kevin Scarbinsky's column appears Sunday, Monday,
Wednesday and Friday. 

 




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[RollTideFan] TGIF Groaner - (nonBama)

2004-07-16 Thread TIDE1

Posting 2 "super losers" today...   Cheers -vo-


The "Honolulu Police Department" received reports of illegal
*cockfights* being held in the Ewa area and duly dispatched the infamous
"Detective Chang" to investigate. 

He reported to his sergeant the next morning. "Get tree main groups in
da 
cock-fightin hui," he began. 

"Good work. Who are they?" the sergeant asked. 

Chang replied confidently, "Get haoles, Portagees, and da Syndicate." 

Puzzled, the sergeant asked, "How did you find that out in one night?" 

"Wuz easy cuz," he replied, "I wen' Ewa side and watched da cock fight. 

Could tell had haoles when *one duck* was entered in da fight." 

The sergeant nodded, "I'll buy that. But what about the others?" 

Chang intoned knowingly, "Well, I feegured we get Portagees when someone
wen' 
bet on da duck." 

"Ah, yes," said the sergeant, "And how did you deduce the *Syndicate*
was 
involved?" 

"Da duck won." !!!


"QUICK LUBE"

The increased use of *Viagra by seniors* created the demand
> > for
> > > a *sexual lubricant* to address the special needs of that
> > market.
> > > The makers of K-Y were quick to develop one which they
> > marketed
> > > as, "OIL OF OLD LAY".



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Re: Re[2]: [RollTideFan] "That would be like Adolph Hitler Jr. walking into Israel's biggest synagogue"

2004-07-16 Thread Steven Johnson
Good idea Javvy.

RTR
LC

--- M Laborde <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hell, I think everyone should defect from the NCAA
> to the NAIA. It's already set
> up and ready.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Thursday, July 15, 2004, 8:16:43 AM, you wrote:
> 
> TB> I don't see how the NCAA is going to weasel out
> of this. The evidence just
> TB> keeps mounting against them. I hope in 5 years,
> there is no NCAA any more.
> TB> Some governing body yes, but an entirely
> different structure from the NCAA,
> TB> a different name and not located in Indy. That's
> my dream.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>
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RE: [RollTideFan] (Ain't) Martha Stewart sentenced

2004-07-16 Thread Lizard Fish

The Stewartnator: Stewart pledged "I'll be back."

"I have been choked and almost suffocated to death." 

"Today is a shameful day. It's shameful for me and my beloved family and my
company," 

Letters in support of Martha: "I am alone now with my pets," a woman named
Ruth Ritter wrote to the judge in careful script. "Just seeing Martha doing
her crafts, cooking, gardening, was a great comfort to me."


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Re: [RollTideFan] (Ain't) Martha Stewart sentenced

2004-07-16 Thread becky
Now that is funny!.beckyga
 
"Joel Perry" Stewart sentenced


> Two words: Strap On.
> 


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RE: [RollTideFan] (Ain't) Martha Stewart sentenced

2004-07-16 Thread Joel Perry
Two words: Strap On.

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Subject:[RollTideFan] (Ain't) Martha Stewart sentenced

5 months in the klink & 5 months house arrest.

Good news - her company stock is up 20% today!


Slef E. (The *E* stands for Good Living )

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[RollTideFan] (Ain't) Martha Stewart sentenced

2004-07-16 Thread Jeff Todd
5 months in the klink & 5 months house arrest.

Good news - her company stock is up 20% today!


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RE: [RollTideFan] Let's Get it On

2004-07-16 Thread Joel Perry
Dang. Hope I can open it then.

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Subject:RE: [RollTideFan] Let's Get it On

>
> (Actually I couldn't open the file, but I'm assuming it was a
> funny about the Dems. Those some crazy folks. Unlike us
> Scientologists.)
>
Actually it was a couple of guys auditioning to be Scientologists.


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RE: [RollTideFan] Let's Get it On

2004-07-16 Thread Lizard Fish
> 
> (Actually I couldn't open the file, but I'm assuming it was a 
> funny about the Dems. Those some crazy folks. Unlike us 
> Scientologists.)
> 
Actually it was a couple of guys auditioning to be Scientologists.


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[RollTideFan] Former Tide players shine in Triple-A All-Star Game

2004-07-16 Thread Pat Smoot
I always loved that boy.  ROLL TIDE !!


Former Tide players shine in Triple-A All-Star Game
July 16, 2004

PAWTUCKET, R.I. | An impromptu alumni meeting of former University of
Alabama standouts turned out to be a real blast Wednesday night at sold-out
McCoy Stadium.

Former first-team All-American Andy Phillips (1996-99) ripped a two-out walk
off home run in the bottom of the 10th inning to lift the International
League All-Stars to a 4-3 win over the Pacific Coast League All-Stars in the
17th annual Triple-A All-Star Game in front of 11,000-plus fans at the home
of the Pawtucket Red Sox.

It was the first-ever extra inning game in Triple-A All-Star history.

Phillips, who entered the game at second base in the sixth inning, drilled
an 0-1 pitch over the wall in left center field off losing pitcher Scott
Atchison to give the IL its second straight win in the all star series.

Phillips was named the game's Most Valuable Player.

The former Crimson Tide star has 19 home runs this season at Double-A
Trenton (N.J.) and Triple-A Columbus (Ohio), including 15 home runs since
May 15.

Joe Vitiello (1989-91) slammed a two-run home run in the fourth inning as
the IL tied the game at 2-2.

Vitiello, the starting designated hitter, reached base twice in his three
plate appearances before being lifted for a pinch-runner in the sixth
inning.

Vitiello was picked the IL's "Star of Stars."

While at Alabama, the duo combined for 95 home runs in seven years with the
Crimson Tide.

Phillips is the school's all-time home run leader with 61, while Vitiello
ranks 10th with 34 career home runs.



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RE: [RollTideFan] Let's Get it On

2004-07-16 Thread Joel Perry
I don't have time to watch this right now. CNN is re-showing Colin Powell's
speech to the UN about the 'stockpiles of weapons of mass destruction'.
Don't you think that Denzell Washington should play Colin in the movie?

Then they are going to re-play the Prez landing on the aircraft carrier and
declaring the beginning of the occupation. Oops. I mean, the end of major
conflict.

(Actually I couldn't open the file, but I'm assuming it was a funny about
the Dems. Those some crazy folks. Unlike us Scientologists.)


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Subject:[RollTideFan] Let's Get it On

Jobu, be sure to turn up the sound.

http://www.noedesign.com/dev/KerryEdwards/index.html


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