Re:Several questions about the draft-ietf-bfd-unaffiliated-echo

2021-11-25 Thread xiao.min2
Jeff, So, that's not new to everyone, great! At this time, my proposal is to proceed with draft-ietf-bfd-unaffiliated-echo, publish it as planned. Best Regards, Xiao Min --原始邮件-- 发件人:JeffreyHaas 收件人:肖敏10093570;

Re:Several questions about the draft-ietf-bfd-unaffiliated-echo

2021-11-24 Thread xiao.min2
Jeff, I have no objection to the comparison, please go on. One thing I want to emphasize is that, whether DC use case (brought up by draft-wang-bfd-one-arm-use-case) or broadband access use case (brought up by BBF TR-146), the key requirement is that the peer system is totally BFD-Unaware, in

Re:Several questions about the draft-ietf-bfd-unaffiliated-echo

2021-11-23 Thread xiao.min2
Greg, Jeff, It looks that you converge on comparison between S-BFD Echo and Unaffiliated Echo. What I want to point out is, allowing using standalone BFD/S-BFD Echo without periodically transmitted BFD/S-BFD Control packets, doesn't mean it's Unaffiliated Echo. In RFC 5880 section 3.2 the 4th

Re:Several questions about the draft-ietf-bfd-unaffiliated-echo

2021-11-22 Thread xiao.min2
Jeff, I agree to your analysis. In the current draft, I've tried to make the desired behavior clear, at the same time, reuse the already defined BFD procedure as much as possible. As always, I'm open to any suggestions and comments. Although I disagree to a specific suggestion sometimes, the

Re:Several questions about the draft-ietf-bfd-unaffiliated-echo

2021-11-21 Thread xiao.min2
Jeff, That's OK. I'll hold on for your further judgement. Just to clarify, when this document's predecessor (draft-wang-bfd-one-arm-use-case-00) was brought up to IETF, the proponents didn't know any of BBF related prior art, that means their original work was not inspired by BBF TR-146. At

Re:Several questions about the draft-ietf-bfd-unaffiliated-echo

2021-11-18 Thread xiao.min2
Thank you Jeff! A very clear description on the core motivation and current situation. >From the author's perspective, I'd like to remove the reference to BBF TR-146 >if it's becoming a blocking issue instead of a supporting argument. Best Regards, Xiao Min

Re:Several questions about the draft-ietf-bfd-unaffiliated-echo

2021-11-17 Thread xiao.min2
Hi Greg, Please see inline with [XM]. Best Regards, Xiao Min --原始邮件-- 发件人:GregMirsky 收件人:肖敏10093570; 抄送人:draft-ietf-bfd-unaffiliated-e...@ietf.org;rtg-bfd WG; 日 期 :2021年11月17日 23:48 主 题 :Re: Several questions about the draft-ietf-bfd-unaffiliated-echo Hi Xiao

Re:Several questions about the draft-ietf-bfd-unaffiliated-echo

2021-11-17 Thread xiao.min2
Hi Greg, Thanks for your thorough review and insightful questions. I hold the pen for draft-ietf-bfd-unaffiliated-echo, so I'd like to give my reply first. As you may have known or not, before this draft was posted, we ever tried to submit an errata instead of an I-D. However, under the