RE: Protecting SR policy midpoints (draft-bashandy-rtgwg-segment-routing-ti-lfa)

2017-11-28 Thread Sikhivahan Gundu
Drafts allow a B-Flag to be attached to the Adj-SID, which says that the adjacency is “eligible for protection”. Such an adjacency may perhaps also be interpreted as ineligible for SR policies that are particular that only the selected adjacency must be used to reach the protected node. This

Re: Protecting SR policy midpoints (draft-bashandy-rtgwg-segment-routing-ti-lfa)

2017-11-28 Thread Alexander Vainshtein
Stewart,Lots of thanks for a prompt response.From my POV "normal" FRR (based on LFA or RLFA) can be employed safely to protect against the"middle of a segment" link and/or node failure without any impact on the policy. And it would not respond to failure of the nodes (or links) that are part of

Re: Protecting SR policy midpoints (draft-bashandy-rtgwg-segment-routing-ti-lfa)

2017-11-28 Thread Stewart Bryant
2. looks to be similar to 1+1 backup from the headend, which would be the normal default, but you have to prevent the packet going down the repair. What would be nice would be to install a tailored backup hence: 3. Install a purpose built backup and somehow map to it on failure. Both of

Re: Protecting SR policy midpoints (draft-bashandy-rtgwg-segment-routing-ti-lfa)

2017-11-28 Thread Alexander Vainshtein
Ahmed,Regarding what was not clear: As I see it, you have been carefully avoiding usage of the RFC 5331 language (context-specific label spaces and context identifiers) in your SR-related drafts. We (you and I) have already discussed this point wrt the SR anycast draft.  Regarding the overlap:

Re: Protecting SR policy midpoints (draft-bashandy-rtgwg-segment-routing-ti-lfa)

2017-11-28 Thread Robert Raszuk
That's good addition to the draft. My comment is addressed. Thx, R. On Tue, Nov 28, 2017 at 5:58 PM, Ahmed Bashandy (bashandy) < basha...@cisco.com> wrote: > Thanks for the the feedback > > The node "S" knows the SRGB and the adj-SIDs of the neighboring node "F". > Hence if the new top label

Re: Protecting SR policy midpoints (draft-bashandy-rtgwg-segment-routing-ti-lfa)

2017-11-28 Thread Alexander Vainshtein
Ahmed,I believe that the so-called protected Adj-SID simply means that if the link that it represents fails, it can be replaced with the Node-SID of the node at the remote end if the adjacency. It does not help at all if the downstream node fails. Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android On Tue,

Re: Protecting SR policy midpoints (draft-bashandy-rtgwg-segment-routing-ti-lfa)

2017-11-28 Thread Ahmed Bashandy (bashandy)
See inline Ahmed On 11/28/2017 8:04 AM, Alexander Vainshtein wrote: Ahmed and all, Two points: 1. From my POV your description of forwarding behavior when the link S-->F fails is incomplete: the top label in the stack may be poppoed, but it is not "forgotten", and the next exposed label is

Re: Protecting SR policy midpoints (draft-bashandy-rtgwg-segment-routing-ti-lfa)

2017-11-28 Thread Alexander Vainshtein
Muthu,Please take a look at draft-hegde-spring-node-protection-for-sr-te-paths that provides accurate descriprion of the requured DP behavior in the standard terms (context-specifuc label spaces and context-identifying labels). My 2c. Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android On Tue, Nov 28, 2017 at

Re: Protecting SR policy midpoints (draft-bashandy-rtgwg-segment-routing-ti-lfa)

2017-11-28 Thread Ahmed Bashandy (bashandy)
Thanks for the the feedback The node "S" knows the SRGB and the adj-SIDs of the neighboring node "F". Hence if the new top label is not within these two sets, then the node "S" will always be able to know that the node that failed is NOT a midpoint but rather an egress point failure I will

Re: Protecting SR policy midpoints (draft-bashandy-rtgwg-segment-routing-ti-lfa)

2017-11-28 Thread Muthu Arul Mozhi Perumal
On Tue, Nov 28, 2017 at 5:34 PM, Ahmed Bashandy (bashandy) < basha...@cisco.com> wrote: > Hi, > > The behavior described in section 5.3 is clear: > - The top label of incoming packet to node "S" is either a prefix SID > owned by node "F" or an adjacency SID for (S,F) > - If the link from node "S"

Last Call: (A YANG Data Model for Virtual Router Redundancy Protocol (VRRP)) to Proposed Standard

2017-11-28 Thread The IESG
The IESG has received a request from the Routing Area Working Group WG (rtgwg) to consider the following document: - 'A YANG Data Model for Virtual Router Redundancy Protocol (VRRP)' as Proposed Standard The IESG plans to make a decision in the next few weeks, and solicits final comments on

Last Call: (A YANG Data Model for Routing Information Protocol (RIP)) to Proposed Standard

2017-11-28 Thread The IESG
The IESG has received a request from the Routing Area Working Group WG (rtgwg) to consider the following document: - 'A YANG Data Model for Routing Information Protocol (RIP)' as Proposed Standard The IESG plans to make a decision in the next few weeks, and solicits final comments on this

Re: Protecting SR policy midpoints (draft-bashandy-rtgwg-segment-routing-ti-lfa)

2017-11-28 Thread Alexander Vainshtein
Stewart,I understand your concern. However, as I see it, the alternatives to local protection of a failed pinned node of a SR-TE LSP are somewhat limited: 1. You can wait (with no traffic) until failure of the pinned node is recognized (e.g., fillowing IGP cobversion) and a new policy(that does

Re: Protecting SR policy midpoints (draft-bashandy-rtgwg-segment-routing-ti-lfa)

2017-11-28 Thread Alexander Vainshtein
Ahmed and all,Two points:1. From my POV your description of forwarding behavior when the link S-->F fails is incomplete: the top label in the stack may be poppoed, but it is not "forgotten", and the next exposed label is looked up by S in the context label space that is F-specific. I.e., if S

Re: Protecting SR policy midpoints (draft-bashandy-rtgwg-segment-routing-ti-lfa)

2017-11-28 Thread Stewart Bryant
On 28/11/2017 12:04, Ahmed Bashandy (bashandy) wrote: - The top label of incoming packet to node "S" is either a prefix SID owned by node "F" or an adjacency SID for (S,F) If it is an adjacency SID for (S,F) then you are violating the original intent of the ingress PE which was to send

Re: Protecting SR policy midpoints (draft-bashandy-rtgwg-segment-routing-ti-lfa)

2017-11-28 Thread Robert Raszuk
Hi Ahmed, > - In a link-state envirnoment, node "S" knows the SRGB of node "F" as well as all adjacency SIDs of node "F" What you say is all true, but the way I read the question of this thread seems to be what happens in the cases where node S has no clue of the new top label. Say it was

Re: Protecting SR policy midpoints (draft-bashandy-rtgwg-segment-routing-ti-lfa)

2017-11-28 Thread Ahmed Bashandy (bashandy)
I do not understand the question Ahmed On 11/23/2017 5:15 AM, Huzhibo wrote: Because the normal FRR can not protect the designated node of SR-TE, a method is provided to perform the label POP action by the penultimate hop of the specified node replacing the specified node and forward it to

Re: Protecting SR policy midpoints (draft-bashandy-rtgwg-segment-routing-ti-lfa)

2017-11-28 Thread Ahmed Bashandy (bashandy)
Hi, The behavior described in section 5.3 is clear: - The top label of incoming packet to node "S" is either a prefix SID owned by node "F" or an adjacency SID for (S,F) - If the link from node "S" to node "F" is up, then the normal behavior for node "S" is to apply penultimate hop popping