On Nov 30, 2006, at 0800 , Chad Fowler wrote:
> On 11/30/06, Eric Hodel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> When using rubygems with a program that has (or will) be using the
>> built-in open-uri, rubygems causes an infinite loop because
>> Kernel#open is redefined twice.
&g
, using it is no longer a gem-specific
> task. You just need to add each gem's lib directory (or equivalent)
> to Ruby's load path. What I would do is to loop through the directory
> in which you unpacked each gem, and unshift that directory's lib
> subdirectory onto the $:
e can release
a new version of rubygems (or a separate platforms gem, like the
sources gem) easily enough.
Having written a program to go through the specifications of all the
current gems, there's a lot of crap in there. Allowing users to
arbitrarily specify something will result in no le
On Nov 30, 2006, at 1034 , Chad Fowler wrote:
> On 11/29/06, Eric Hodel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> On Nov 29, 2006, at 0504 , Chad Fowler wrote:
>>> On 11/28/06, Chad Woolley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>> Anyway, it's almost releasable, except
asic_authentication
>
> 6) Error:
> test_implicit_upper_case_proxy(TestRemoteFetcher):
> ArgumentError: unrecognized option: proxy_http_basic_authentication
Lies! These were caused by the removal of rubygems/open-uri...
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mod 0222, @sic.system_cache_file
FileUtils.chmod 0222, @sic.user_cache_file
+return if (File.stat(@sic.system_cache_file).mode & 0222) != 0222
+return if (File.stat(@sic.user_cache_file).mode & 0222) != 0222
assert_equal({}, @sic.cache_data)
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On Dec 4, 2006, at 13:05 , Anatol Pomozov wrote:
> Hi, Eric.
>
> Your solution works fine on Windows.
Committed.
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> rake/rake_test_loader
> Started
> ..
> ..
> ..
> ...
> Finished in 22.469 seconds.
>
> 257 tests, 946 assertions, 0 failur
successful, but linux and darwin less-so.
I think we'll need a DARWIN_INTEL and DARWIN_UNIVERSAL, a more-
generic linux, and ...?
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On Dec 8, 2006, at 08:10 , Grant Hollingworth wrote:
> * Eric Hodel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006-12-08 01:05]:
>> mswin32 has been outrageously successful, but linux and darwin
>> less-so.
>
> Linux and Darwin don't have so many special cases. Or at least
>
I don't see any way to upload a new patch file
> to an existing case in rubyforge. What's the right thing to do here?
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Quick index not found: 404 Not Found
Bulk updating Gem source index for: http://gems.rubyforge.org
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On Dec 14, 2006, at 01:14, Jim Weirich wrote:
> On 12/13/06, Eric Hodel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Sometimes rubygems likes to do a bulk update even when there's no
>> possible way 50 gems could have been updated. I added some code and
>> found that occasio
t; HTTP Response 503
> bash-2.05#
>
> I can't remember what that code means now. Oh, seems to be service
> unavailable...
Yes, rubyforge is having issue.
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I've got the tracker down to 37 open items:
http://rubyforge.org/tracker/?group_id=126
The rest of the items are patches or bugs that require actual work.
A bit of help would be appreciated.
There are three gem submissions that are so stale they should
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On Dec 16, 2006, at 08:54, Chad Fowler wrote:
> On 12/15/06, Eric Hodel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> I've got the tracker down to 37 open items:
>>
>> http://rubyforge.org/tracker/?group_id=126
>>
>> The rest of the items are patches or bugs that re
On Dec 18, 2006, at 14:18, Eric Hodel wrote:
> On Dec 16, 2006, at 08:54, Chad Fowler wrote:
>> Eric, are you aware of fixing
>> http://rubyforge.org/tracker/index.php?
>> func=detail&aid=982&group_id=126&atid=575.
>> It looks like you did. I added a t
install", ""]>.
>
> 8) Failure:
> test_class_build(TestGemExtRakeBuilder) [./test/
> test_gem_ext_rake_builder.rb:35]:
> <["rake RUBYARCHDIR=C:/DOCUME~1/anatol/LOCALS~1/Temp/
> test_rubygems_3428/prefix RUBYLIBDIR=C:/DOCUME~1/anatol/LOCALS~1/
> T
There's one open bug that should be easy to fix.
There's one feature request that could be fixed in a reasonable
amount of time. (The other two involve tattle).
I think that means its time to release.
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y/bin/ruby -w -Ilib
> "c:/PRO...]
>
> (See full trace by running task with --trace)
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eans.
>
> That's been in SVN for some time. Except that it is just 'gem' rather
> than activate_gem. I.e. just put
>
>gem 'gemname'
>
> in your code.
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On Dec 20, 2006, at 10:49, Chad Fowler wrote:
> On 12/20/06, Eric Hodel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> On Dec 20, 2006, at 05:38, Jim Weirich wrote:
>>> On 12/20/06, Austin Ziegler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>> Can we may be get #activate_gem created for
On Dec 20, 2006, at 02:17, Eric Hodel wrote:
> There's one open bug that should be easy to fix.
>
> There's one feature request that could be fixed in a reasonable
> amount of time. (The other two involve tattle).
>
> I think that means its time to release.
There ar
On Dec 20, 2006, at 23:11, Eric Hodel wrote:
> On Dec 20, 2006, at 02:17, Eric Hodel wrote:
>> There's one open bug that should be easy to fix.
>>
>> There's one feature request that could be fixed in a reasonable
>> amount of time. (The other two involve
following output
>
> http://gems.rubyforge.org# http://
> onestepback.org/betagems#
> code.whytheluckystiff.net#http://
> gems.example.com# http://
> gems.rubyonrails.org#
>
> looks like test uses also my own gem-repositories (not only http://
> gems.e
dded dependency of the session gem. Some tests were failing because
they didn't get run.
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On Dec 22, 2006, at 02:32, Anatol Pomozov wrote:
> Hi, Eric.
>
> But 'session' gem does not work under windows.
Ok. I cannot think of an easy workaround, so I reverted the change.
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On Dec 22, 2006, at 02:39, Anatol Pomozov wrote:
> On 12/22/06, Eric Hodel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Dec 21, 2006, at 03:05, Anatol Pomozov wrote:
> > On 12/20/06, Cerberus < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > 1) Failure:
> > test_class_build
ed.
Well, the first three lines are the only really important ones, so I
didn't bother to test the rest of them.
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gt; and suggest a better BAT script for gems that will propagate
> exit status.
Yep, I've verified this.
"c:\ruby\bin\ruby" -x "%~f0" %*
goto endofruby
#!/bin/ruby
abort 'boom'
__END__
:endofruby
Will return an exit code of 0 instead of 1. I'll ask rub
On Dec 25, 2006, at 14:05, Eric Hodel wrote:
> On Dec 25, 2006, at 11:59, Jim Weirich wrote:
>> Anatol Pomozov wrote:
>>> But Rake finishes with return code == 0 on windows even if some
>>> error
>>> present. I dunno why, better to ask Rake developers.
On Dec 26, 2006, at 12:03, Jim Weirich wrote:
> This one caught me too. You need to fix the calling script that
> invokes rake, as the 'require_gem' warning is messing up the test
> output. Does "gem pristine fix this yet?
Yes, "gem pristine --all" will
gems/doc_manager.rb | grep 71
71 require 'rdoc/rdoc'
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On Dec 27, 2006, at 05:08, Jim Freeze wrote:
> On Dec 27, 2006, at 1:38 AM, Eric Hodel wrote:
>> On Dec 26, 2006, at 21:20, Jim Freeze wrote:
>>> Should I be getting an error when installing a gem on
>>> a machine that irb is not installed on?
>>
>> Ye
Try out the recent beta (0.9.0.8).
Unfortunately, too much code lives in lib/rubygems/gem_commands.rb
that should live elsewhere. I'm doing what I can to correct this,
which will make everyone's lives better.
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t; Also, if you use the command line, you have to parse errors out of
> stdout/stderr as opposed to just catching exceptions. If anyone
> has ideas here, please let me know.
0.9.1 raises many, many more exceptions (and useful ones, at that)
and outputs to stdout much less (especiall
.9.1 in
the following week.
Are there any issues pending that I don't know about or have forgotten?
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On Dec 29, 2006, at 05:16, Jim Weirich wrote:
> Eric Hodel wrote:
>> I saw Jim made a flurry of cleanups, and I made some changes to 'gem
>> pristine' to make the require_gem -> gem transition to flow more
>> smoothly.
>>
>> Since its holiday ti
opt/local/lib/ruby/site_ruby/1.8/rubygems/gem_runner.rb:30:in `run'
> /opt/local/bin/gem:23
What is the output of `sudo gem sources`?
Can you send the contents of /opt/local/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/source_cache?
Can you then try deleteing the file and trying again?
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On Jan 7, 2007, at 17:17, Jim Freeze wrote:
> On Jan 7, 2007, at 7:09 PM, Eric Hodel wrote:
>
>> What is the output of `sudo gem sources`?
>>
>> Can you send the contents of /opt/local/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/
>> source_cache?
>>
>> Can you then try deleteing
version a try under JRuby? You can
> get it with:
>
>gem update --system --source http://onestepback.org/betagems
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On Jan 7, 2007, at 17:42, Christopher McGrath wrote:
> On 8 Jan 2007, at 01:09, Eric Hodel wrote:
>> What is the output of `sudo gem sources`?
>>
>> Can you send the contents of /opt/local/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/
>> source_cache?
>>
>> Can you then try deleteing
rsion of RubyGems (which you haven't yet
> released).
>
> I was hoping to release the one-click installer sometime in the
> next few weeks. Is this compatible with your planes for releasing
> the new RubyGems?
I'm imagining a week with the current beta, then release.
gem both store their marshalled
> cache
> files in the same place? Are they possibly interfering with each
> other?)
Can you gzip and post a JRuby source_cache file that's corrupt? Or
run the above against a JRuby source_cache with a matzruby?
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On Jan 11, 2007, at 07:51, Anthony Eden wrote:
> First message didn't make it to the list because I attached my
> source_cache. Eric, if you want my source_cache just let me know and
> I'll send it directly to you.
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On Jan 11, 2007, at 09:34, Hugh Sasse wrote:
> On Thu, 11 Jan 2007, Eric Hodel wrote:
>> On Jan 11, 2007, at 08:46, Hugh Sasse wrote:
>>> Yes, RSS is the way to go for this. However, I wish to raise the
>>> point that the Ruby net/HTTP class doesn't support conten
EL_0_8_11.patch
Description: Binary data
Credit to Gavin Sinclair for finding and reporting this problem.
Testing your updated RubyGems:
$ gem install rspec --version 0.7.5
ERROR: While executing gem ... (Gem::InstallError)
attempt to install file into "../web_spec/
web_test_html_for
On Jan 12, 2007, at 10:59, Eric Hodel wrote:
> I've checked in fixes for an installation exploit found by Gavin
> Sinclair. Here's a draft email describing the exploit and how to
> fix RubyGems. I only supplied patches for the past two versions of
> RubyGems, since t
On Jan 12, 2007, at 11:17, Eric Hodel wrote:
On Jan 12, 2007, at 10:59, Eric Hodel wrote:
I've checked in fixes for an installation exploit found by Gavin
Sinclair. Here's a draft email describing the exploit and how to
fix RubyGems. I only supplied patches for the past two v
x.gem
> BAD: /var/www/gems/gems/pippin-0.1b.gem
> BAD: /var/www/gems/gems/activesalesforce-0.0.1.gem
> BAD: /var/www/gems/gems/mb-ruby-0.3.0.gem
> BAD: /var/www/gems/gems/imlib2-ruby-0.4.3.gem
> BAD: /var/www/gems/gems/mb-ruby-0.1.0.gem
> BAD: /var/www/gems/gems/syndic8-ru
n specify a range, with version requirements, for example >=
1.0 < 1.1. (I'm not sure what the exact syntax is, though.)
> If not, is this an unnecessary limitation? What are workarounds?
Perhaps. I don't think it frequently comes up. The typical
workaround is t
On Jan 15, 2007, at 13:35, Paul Duncan wrote:
> * Eric Hodel ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
>> I count 28 apparently non-platform gems. Is it easy to tell how
>> active these projects are? Can the authors be persuaded to
>> rerelease? Can the gems be renamed without harm?
>
On Jan 12, 2007, at 22:58, Paul Duncan wrote:
> * Eric Hodel ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
>> I've checked in fixes for an installation exploit found by Gavin
>> Sinclair. Here's a draft email describing the exploit and how to fix
>> RubyGems. I only supplied patch
;d like to get bug reports
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On Jan 16, 2007, at 14:12, Curt Hibbs wrote:
> FYI... As soon as you guys are ready to release something, I ready
> to release a new One-Click Ruby Installer that contains it.
Its released. Ask if you need anything extra.
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> * Eric Hodel ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
>> On Jan 12, 2007, at 22:58, Paul Duncan wrote:
>>> * Eric Hodel ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> [snipped]
>>>> RubyGems does not check installation paths for gems before writing
On Jan 16, 2007, at 20:05, Paul Duncan wrote:
> * Eric Hodel ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
>> The RDoc tool doesn't eval anything, so I think generating
>> documentation is safe. (Of course, I'm not 100% certain you can't
>> get code eval'd by running RDo
s of packages on
the rubyforge gem server, and use it to validate packages from mirrors?
> The idea behind all the above steps is to assume the contents of
> packages can and eventually will be tinkered with, and to provide a
> way
> for users to be reasonably certain that nothing
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> 0.9.0.8
> doesn't seem to have something like this already It wouldn't be the
> first time I've missed something, if I have.
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On Jan 18, 2007, at 11:12, Chad Fowler wrote:
> On 1/18/07, Eric Hodel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> This one is gem_server
>>
>
> I wonder if it would be a good idea to deprecate gem_server in favor
> of "gem server"?
I thought about folding all the bin/
;t check, but I believe it
in fact does.
If you're using require_gem, and have autorequire in your gemspec,
then bad things may happen.
If Rails is using require_gem still, that may be a problem. There's
a separate ticket for that:
. (I think the options should be site specific
> anyways, so all docs on my box have a consistent look. I don't
> care if
> the gem author doesn't like my choice of template).
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On Jan 18, 2007, at 23:15, Charles Oliver Nutter wrote:
> DrBrain recommended I join the list, and it seemed like a good
> idea, so
> I'm here. What have I missed? :)
Relating to jruby, not much. I expect to get around to that in a
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On Jan 19, 2007, at 13:49, Jos Backus wrote:
> Fix:
Please attach to this feature request so it doesn't get lost.
http://rubyforge.org/tracker/index.php?
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On Jan 19, 2007, at 16:58, Jos Backus wrote:
> On Fri, Jan 19, 2007 at 04:50:18PM -0800, Eric Hodel wrote:
>> On Jan 19, 2007, at 13:49, Jos Backus wrote:
>>
>>> Fix:
>>
>> Please attach to this feature request so it doesn't get lost.
>>
>> h
down to the extconf.rb in a subshell. If not, please
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command line option, a dotfile to specify it in and a good
default.
(This question is much more appropriate for ruby-talk.)
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>
> whats the proposed solution for this? any ideas when it happens?
I've got a script to repair half of the problem. I haven't found the
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> On 2007-01-22 11:13:44 -0800, Eric Hodel wrote:
>> On Jan 22, 2007, at 10:02, Marcus Rueckert wrote:
>>> on irc i saw a few users with the following problem:
>>> [[[
>>> 22:53:20 < nertzy> Does
undefined method `name' for -517611318:Fixnum
>
Let me guess... OS X, XCode 2+, PPC?
Recompile ruby with -O1, -fschedule-insns2 causes this.
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> On 2007-01-29 05:53:55 -0800, Joris Verboomen wrote:
>> XCode 2.1. I looked into the Makefile generated by
>> the configure command but couldn't find any reference
>> to fschedule-insns2. I have the following:
>>
>> CFLAGS = -g -O2 -pipe -fno-co
On Jan 29, 2007, at 12:13, Peter Marklund wrote:
> Without RubyGems an exception is thrown on the first invocation of
> require, but not the second:
>
> require File.join(File.dirname(__FILE__), "test_help")
> LoadError: no such file to load -- b
> from ./test_help.rb:1:in `require'
>
On Feb 1, 2007, at 24:07, Charles Oliver Nutter wrote:
> Three changes thusfar:
>
> - Fix shebang lines in all installed scripts to #!/usr/bin/env jruby
> - Enable env_shebang by default for installs
> - change env_shebang line to #!/usr/bin/env jruby
This will break any gem that adds flags to rub
On Feb 7, 2007, at 01:54, Hugh Sasse wrote:
> Installing the latest Rubygems gem on cygwin just gave me:
>
> install timer.rb /usr/lib/ruby/site_ruby/1.8/rubygems
> install user_interaction.rb /usr/lib/ruby/site_ruby/1.8/rubygems
> install validator.rb /usr/lib/ruby/site_ruby/1.8/rubygems
> install
On Feb 8, 2007, at 01:17, Jean-Michel Garnier wrote:
> I am working on an small open source project which would help to
> manage the dependencies of a ruby project (in short: check the
> versions and download missing gems)
>
> I have put a short spec on
> http://writer.zoho.com/public/garnierjm
On Feb 9, 2007, at 05:13, Austin Ziegler wrote:
> On 2/9/07, Chad Woolley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> [major snippage]
>> The whole platform issue needs to be resolved soon too (is it
>> 'i386-mswin32' or 'mswin32'?)
>
> This is, I think, a Ruby issue. I suspect that the answer is no
> (for the
In order to fix proxy with password, rubygems/open-uri.rb was re-added.
Requiring both rubygems.rb and open-uri.rb causes inifinite loops
(#open calls itself since it is aliased twice).
The correct way to fix this is not to continually re-import open-
uri.rb, but to get changes back-ported fro
On Feb 12, 2007, at 15:57, Eric Hodel wrote:
> In order to fix proxy with password, rubygems/open-uri.rb was re-
> added.
>
> Requiring both rubygems.rb and open-uri.rb causes inifinite loops
> (#open calls itself since it is aliased twice).
>
> The correct way to fix this
>
> Am I right?
Correct.
> On 2/14/07, Eric Hodel <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote:On Feb 12,
> 2007, at 17:34, Eric Hodel wrote:
> > On Feb 12, 2007, at 15:57, Eric Hodel wrote:
> >
> >> In order to fix proxy with password, rubygems/open-uri.rb was re-
> >
On Feb 15, 2007, at 14:41, Austin Ziegler wrote:
> On 2/15/07, Anatol Pomozov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> OK. Here is patch that contains proxy authorization changes.
>
> I think Eric is suggesting that this be posted to ruby-core; a soft
> code freeze has been imposed for 1.8.6, but this is imp
On Mar 2, 2007, at 11:09, Charles Oliver Nutter wrote:
> This is in 0.9.1, affecting both JRuby and Ruby...
>
> ~ $ gem list --remote -p
> ERROR: While executing gem ... (NoMethodError)
> undefined method `[]=' for #
>
> I've done absolutely no investigation. It appears that []= is not (any
On Mar 3, 2007, at 12:22, TRANS wrote:
> (Posted this to Ruby-talk then realized it would be better here)
>
> Any chance of getting RubyGems to support the packages/ dir that's
> supported by setup.rb? I currently have to run a custom staging task
> before I can create a gem for a project that has
On Mar 7, 2007, at 09:28, Rick DeNatale wrote:
> I might be trying to do something which is impossible.
>
> I've got both ruby 1.8.5 and 1.8.6 installed on a system as well as
> ruby1.9 the libraries are in
>
> /usr/local/lib/ruby/site_setup
>1.8.5
>1.8.6
>1.9
>
> I'd like now to inst
On Mar 14, 2007, at 14:47, Patrick Hurley wrote:
> Sorry, if I should have been able to find some docs to point me in the
> right direction, but so far here is what I figured out from trial and
> error and some source code reading.
>
> I want to unpack a gem already on my machine:
> gem unpack a_g
On Mar 19, 2007, at 07:58, Olivier Boudry wrote:
> I'm building the win32 gems for the SAP Rfc connector (a tool to
> perform remote function calls on a SAP R/3 system). I would need to
> have dll files placed into the ruby\bin directory.
How do you run a shared library?
_
On Mar 19, 2007, at 13:38, Olivier Boudry wrote:
> On 3/19/07, Eric Hodel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> On Mar 19, 2007, at 07:58, Olivier Boudry wrote:
>>> I'm building the win32 gems for the SAP Rfc connector (a tool to
>>> perform remote function calls
Stop top posting.
On Mar 19, 2007, at 19:21, Olivier Boudry wrote:
> On 3/19/07, Eric Hodel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> On Mar 19, 2007, at 13:38, Olivier Boudry wrote:
>>> On 3/19/07, Eric Hodel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>> On Mar 19, 2007, at 07:58
On Mar 22, 2007, at 08:17, Patrick Hurley wrote:
> On 3/22/07, TRANS <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> On 3/21/07, Nic Williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>> I'll bite.
>>>
>>> One popular bundle people might relate to is to bundle the rails
>>> gems
>>> together, as a demonstration.
>>>
>>> BTW, do
On Mar 20, 2007, at 18:39, TRANS wrote:
> A few days back I brought up some ideas for dealing with
> multi-packages. This evening I sat down and put to together a little
> tool to handle just that: gembundle.
>
> [...]
>
> Of course, my script is just a quick prototype --I'm shelling out for
> all
On Mar 23, 2007, at 01:30, TRANS wrote:
> On 3/23/07, Eric Hodel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Why not release it as a separate gem, let it develop for a while, and
>> if people use it, it can be included in RubyGems at a future date?
>>
>> Bundling with RubyGems
On Mar 20, 2007, at 05:20, Olivier Boudry wrote:
>> Also, how does ruby get away with having zlib.so in a directory
>> that's not in ENV['PATH']? Can you use the same trick?
>
> zlib.so is in the ruby search path (for searching ruby modules) and
> zlib1.dll is in the bin directory. At least when
On Apr 10, 2007, at 09:06, Donavan Pantke wrote:
> I noticed when running the test suite on my Linux machine, the test
> that
> checked for the failure to run ./configure wasn't working right.
> Not sure if
> the Mac shells handle this differently, but here's a patch to make
> them work
> co
On Apr 17, 2007, at 22:01, Charles Oliver Nutter wrote:
> Jim Weirich wrote:
>> On 4/17/07, Charles Oliver Nutter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>> Is there a way in RubyGems today to specify that one of a number of
>>> modules would be considered equivalent, and to load whichever is
>>> actually pres
On Apr 18, 2007, at 20:43, Charles Oliver Nutter wrote:
> Eric Hodel wrote:
>> On Apr 17, 2007, at 22:01, Charles Oliver Nutter wrote:
>>> I think it's more than just choosing the right platform...it's an
>>> issue that if every gem out there depends on "
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