Hi Stephen,
> Well, the "problem", such as it is, is that I am getting the error
> marker, but there is no entry in the error log. That should be a
> "can't happen" - the error marker is only supposed to appear when
> something is added to the log. But it appears to be happening.
Could a
Hi Viktor,
A email in a file in a Maildir directory has the same format as a file
in an MH mail folder so you may want to look for mail user-agents that
can handle MH folders, e.g. ‘mhshow -file foo’. IIRC, GNU mailutils can
also cope.
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Hi,
I've just upgraded package s-nail on Arch Linux from 14.9.13-2 to
14.9.14-1. ‘mail $LOGNAME’ still prompts for the Subject field, good,
but then echoes it back along with the To field. Why?
1 $ mail $LOGNAME
2 Subject: foo
3 To: ralph
Hi Martin,
> ['origin=3DDebian,codename=3Dstretch,label=3DDebian-Se=curity']
...
> charset.body_encoding = email.charset.QP
...
> What might cause this?
The quoted-printable encoding can be undone with `recode /qp'.
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Cheers, Ralph.
Hi Steffen,
> Be liberal in what you expect but strict in what you produce
Postel's Law is fitting for the 1970s. Now it just causes problems.
That experience shows that there are negative long-term consequences
to interoperability if an implementation applies Postel's advice.
Hi Steffen,
> I guess to satisfy this service i have to reinstantiate the MX record
> that has been there before Russell Bell started sending to the
> resolved CNAME instead of the CNAME itself.
But you don't have to satisfy this broken service that knowingly and
wilfully violates RFCs and yet,
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Hi Rachel,
Thanks for your responses, and trying to keep the mailing list in the
loop. I
Hi Rachel,
There's discussion on the s-mailx@lists.sdaoden.eu mailing list about a
support reply from neverbounce.com. (Please keep
s-mailx@lists.sdaoden.eu CC'd.)
> > > From: "Rachel (NeverBounce)"
> > > To: Viktor Szépe
> > > Subject: Re: false positive
> > > Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2019 19:40:15
Hi Steffen,
> \if [ $s == 42 ]
>\echo 'Second 42, sleeping a second'
>\sleep 1
>\xcall on-compose-leave
> \end
> \if [ $m == 42 ]
>\vput vexpr res - 10#$s 60
>\vput vexpr res - 0 $res
>\echo 'Minute
Hi SZÉPE,
> > If not MX for foo.com exists then foo.com's port 25 is contacted
> > directly, so an MX for foo.com defined as foo.com seems unnecessary.
>
> Excuse me, I object!
> If you do internet mailing in the 21st century you *should* add an MX
> record (and use SPF, DKIM and DMARC)
I assume
Hi Steffen,
> Then problem on my side, i should add an MX entry for
> lists.sdaoden.eu which points to lists.sdaoden.eu not sdaoden.eu.
> My knowledge of DNS is a bit rusty.
Mine too.
$ dig +nocomment lists.sdaoden.eu. mx
...
lists.sdaoden.eu. 14312 IN CNAME
Hi russell,
> I just read asctime's man page and looked at time.h. When
> they describe day-of-month they use them unpadded and mention nothing
> about padding. What is the standard to which you refer? When I run
> 'date', it returns unpadded day-of-month.
There's POSIX,
Hi Steffen,
> > On running this command, I type the four characters ‘bar\n’, and
> > then Ctrl-D, my TTY's EOF character, before the three seconds have
> > elapsed. It appears thus, with ‘␣’ being the cursor.
> >
> > $ sleep 3; mail -s foo $LOGNAME
> > bar
> > ␣
> >
> > As mail
Hi,
s-nail 14.9.11-1 on Arch Linux.
On running this command, I type the four characters ‘bar\n’, and then
Ctrl-D, my TTY's EOF character, before the three seconds have elapsed.
It appears thus, with ‘␣’ being the cursor.
$ sleep 3; mail -s foo $LOGNAME
bar
␣
As mail runs, it
Hi Steffen,
> > > if [ -x "${path}/${pname}" ]; then
> > >echo "${path}/${pname}"
> >
> > This could really do with the `test -f' I pointed out as otherwise
> > it will be unhappy with my compiler collection under
> > /usr/local/bin/cc.
>
> This i do not understand?
$
Hi Steffen,
> if [ -x "${path}/${pname}" ]; then
>echo "${path}/${pname}"
This could really do with the `test -f' I pointed out as otherwise it
will be unhappy with my compiler collection under /usr/local/bin/cc.
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Hi Steffen,
> We use command -v, which should not return something for which no
> executable bit is set?
$ >/tmp/foo
$ PATH=/tmp:$PATH bash -c 'command -v foo'
/tmp/foo
$ >/tmp/ls
$ PATH=/tmp:$PATH bash -c 'command -v ls'
/usr/bin/ls
$
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Hi,
Steffen wrote:
> Then again:
>
> $ pacman -S shellcheck
> resolving dependencies...
> looking for conflicting packages...
>
> Packages (13) ghc-8.0.2-3 haskell-json-0.9.1-8 haskell-mtl-2.2.1-7
> haskell-parsec-3.1.11-4 haskell-primitive-0.6.2.0-2
>
Hi Viktor,
> > ['p', 'r', 'i', 'n', 't', 'f', ' ', "'", 'H', 'e', 'l', 'l', 'o',
> > '\\', '"', '\\', 'n', "'"]
...
> > It's the «\\» before the «\"» causing the problem; it's
> > unspecified. One ends up with printf seeing «\"» and my printf(1p)
> > says
> >
> > The
Hi Steffen,
> ?0[steffen@wales nail.git]$ dash -c "printf 'Hello\\\"\n'"
> Hello\"
> ?0[steffen@wales nail.git]$ bash -c "printf 'Hello\\\"\n'"
> Hello"
>
> I should have double quoted LF as \\n
$ python -c '
> import sys
> print([c for c in sys.argv[1]])
> ' "printf
Hi Steffen,
> It either is a bug in dash's builtin (?) printf(1) or i have used too
> many quotes but which everybody except dash's printf gets right.
What's the line causing problems? Heirloom sh is also handy for testing
portability.
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Hi Steffen,
> - memcpy(>url_path.s, "/INBOX", sizeof("/INBOX"));
> + memcpy(>url_path.s[i], "/INBOX", sizeof("/INBOX"));
That looks like it could just be strcpy(3) to save the reader checking
both string literals are the same.
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Hi Stefan,
> > The previous versions (14.8.16 and earlier) did neither print these
> > warnings nor segfaulted.
>
> I consider these new verifications an improvement, you need to
> redirect standard error to /dev/null to get rid of those
But this discards all errors. `foo 2> >(grep -v '^foo:
Hi Steffen,
> > So it seems there's tab completion of filenames in the midst of
> > writing an email. That seems of rare use, but a source of frequent
> > annoyance. How is it disabled?
>
> Not at all. In v14.9, however, you will be able to re-`bind' the
> tabulator expansion for compose mode.
Hi Steffen,
> + soll = (i > 0 && cbuf[i - 1] == '/');
> + if(which_protocol(cbuf) == PROTO_IMAP){
> + bool_t hpath;
> +
> + hpath = (strcmp(cbuf, protbase(cbuf)) != 0);
> + res = str_concat_csvl(, cbuf, (hpath || soll ? "" : "/"),
> + [1], NULL)->s;
Hi Steffen,
> > I had a look and don't think so for my case. I'm using script(1) to
> > capture my interaction with mail(1) in case of problems, but
> > otherwise I do want the normal interactive experience.
...
> [-] Add *typescript-mode*, set it for -#
I can see it's handy, but I still
Hi,
s-nail 14.8.10-1.
I'm running mail(1) with script(1) and there's a race between mail
forking so the child can run sendmail, the parent mail doesn't wait for
the child, and script seeing the parent mail has finished and stopping.
A SIGHUP can stop sendmail being run. syslog shows no entries
Hi Steffen,
> It turned out we have a general problem on at least Sun Solaris, where
> +00C1 a.k.a. \u00C1 will be happily iconv(3)d to "?", i.e., i can
> happily iconv_open(3) from UTF-8 (128,172 characters) to ISO 646
> a.k.a. US-ASCII (128 characters).
What's iconv(3)'s return value for that
Hi Donald,
> How do you post correctly. Explain top posting so I can avoid doing
> it.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style should explain. In brief,
it's common to keep just the pertinent bits of the email you're replying
to, "quote" those, I use "> " as do many others, and then
Hi Donald,
BTW, I suspect the "Dec 31" are in 1969 and the time was zero seconds
past the Unix epoch, viewed offset by a negative timezone.
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n v14.8.10. Type ? for help.
"/var/spool/mail/ralph": 3 messages 3 unread
>U 1 Ralph Corderoy Thu Sep 15 15:03 14/471
U 2 Ralph Corderoy Thu Sep 15 15:03 14/471
U 3 Ralph Corderoy Thu Sep 15 15:03 14/471
? set datefield='%Y-%m-%d %T %z %a'
? set h
Hi Donald,
> See my other email for a printout.
Us other list members don't have access to what you sent back to the
list before. If you still have the original, please forward the text to
the list.
Cheers, Ralph.
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Hi Steffen,
> Interesting: You are right in that the standard explicitly requires
> the From_ line to be written.
I found http://pubs.opengroup.org/onlinepubs/7908799/xcu/mail.html that
says dead.letter is trampled every time, but nothing about the format.
And
Evening all,
The ~/dead.letter created by s-nail's mail(1) isn't mbox format. It's
just a catenation of email bodies over time. This means subject, etc.,
are lost when a user INTRs twice, and it's tedious to pull the file
apart and back into emails.
Old memories had me believe ~/dead.letter
Hi steffen,
> It's all true what you say, but fetchmail set that standard
No it didn't. libc's rexec(3) parsed .netrc far before fetchmail was
created. GNU inetutils for ftp(1) ditto.
> Yes. But no: also because it is explicitly documented as
>
> · As a non-portable extension some
Hi,
I wrote:
> Eric Schmidt cooked up ~/.netrc as part of the Berkeley Network, and
> it has no comment character.
http://web.mit.edu/usrdoc/misc/berknet/netintro.n is the original
definition. I find GNU's inetutils-1.9.4's ftp/ruserpass.c seems to
stick to that: no explicit comment character,
Hi Rudolf,
> is it possible, when using S/MIME, to sign the mail only sometimes?
> (Mostly, it is redundant, only sometimes it's really wanted.)
Are you aware of `asksign' in mail(1)? Also, smime-sign-cert-USER@HOST
means it can be turned on for particualar `From:', or `Sender:',
addresses.
Hi,
s-nail 14.8.8-1.
5ecb39d3c90888d58f1028990a1dc3843ad163fe /usr/bin/mail
I was entering the Subject when prompted, and corrected a typo using
backspace and replacing the deleted characters, as I continued typing,
the error appeared. I've replaced the a-z characters I typed with
abc... for
Hi,
Martin wrote:
> What I (and a colleague of mine) never understood: what's the point
> of the s-nail line-editor?
Being new to the list, I've been wondering that too. ~e and ~v are
available. ~h lets one cursor through the field. And if it is wanted,
aren't there's BSD-compatible
Hi Steffen,
> > $ LC_ALL=C MAILRC=/dev/null valgrind ./bin/s-nail -n $USER
> > ==1153== Memcheck, a memory error detector
> > ==1153== Copyright (C) 2002-2015, and GNU GPL'd, by Julian Seward et al.
> > ==1153== Using Valgrind-3.11.0 and LibVEX; rerun with -h for copy\
> >
Hi Steffen,
> > $ LC_ALL=C MAILRC=/dev/null valgrind mail -n $USER
>
> Valgrind i've never used, though... :(
The default, like I've used, is a good help without even reading the man
page. The program under test runs more slowly, but valgrind is checking
every memory access against its
Hi steffen,
> > An strace(1) shows read(2)s of one byte consuming the first line,
> > including the LF. ioctl(2)s and signal handling are then done. The
> > next read of stdin sees Ctrl-D, the terminal's EOF character, and no
> > more reads are attempted.
The ioctl are
ioctl(0, TCSETSF,
Hi,
Arch Linux, s-nail 14.8.6-2, xfce4-terminal or xterm. Running `mail
$USER' in the terminal, entering a subject when prompted, and then
pasting a dozen lines or so results in just the first of those getting
into the body of the email. The method of pasting doesn't affect the
outcome.
An
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