[sage-devel] Re: sage talk

2009-02-01 Thread John Cremona
I guess William writes Weierstrass more often than hierarchy John On 1 Feb, 00:42, Simon King k...@mathematik.uni-jena.de wrote: Hi William, On 31 Jan., 19:04, William Stein wst...@gmail.com wrote: ... Thanks!  I was scared you were going to point out 10 typos :-) I found one:

[sage-devel] Re: sage talk

2009-02-01 Thread Roman Pearce
I just want to point out the Maple's linear algebra is not quite as bad as old Linbox times imply. The linalg package has been obsolete for some time now. -bash-3.2$ maple |\^/| Maple 12 (X86 64 LINUX) ._|\| |/|_. Copyright (c) Maplesoft, a division of Waterloo Maple Inc. 2008 \

[sage-devel] Re: sage talk

2009-02-01 Thread William Stein
On Sun, Feb 1, 2009 at 11:21 AM, Roman Pearce rpear...@gmail.com wrote: I just want to point out the Maple's linear algebra is not quite as bad as old Linbox times imply. The linalg package has been obsolete for some time now. It should print a deprecation warning so I would know. Could

[sage-devel] Re: sage talk

2009-02-01 Thread William Stein
On Sun, Feb 1, 2009 at 12:46 PM, William Stein wst...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Feb 1, 2009 at 11:21 AM, Roman Pearce rpear...@gmail.com wrote: I just want to point out the Maple's linear algebra is not quite as bad as old Linbox times imply. The linalg package has been obsolete for some

[sage-devel] large integer sparse matrices

2009-02-01 Thread John H Palmieri
On sage-support (http://groups.google.com/group/sage-support/ browse_frm/thread/f62e4f521d732b60) I pointed out that mat.rank() failed for a certain sparse matrix, whereas mat.dense_matrix().rank() worked just fine, and similarly for mat.elementary_divisors(). On Jan 31, 12:12 pm, mabshoff

[sage-devel] Re: sage talk

2009-02-01 Thread Tim Lahey
On Feb 1, 2009, at 4:01 PM, William Stein wrote: On Sun, Feb 1, 2009 at 12:46 PM, William Stein wst...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Feb 1, 2009 at 11:21 AM, Roman Pearce rpear...@gmail.com wrote: I just want to point out the Maple's linear algebra is not quite as bad as old Linbox times

[sage-devel] Re: sage talk

2009-02-01 Thread William Stein
On Sun, Feb 1, 2009 at 1:18 PM, Tim Lahey tim.la...@gmail.com wrote: On Feb 1, 2009, at 4:01 PM, William Stein wrote: On Sun, Feb 1, 2009 at 12:46 PM, William Stein wst...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Feb 1, 2009 at 11:21 AM, Roman Pearce rpear...@gmail.com wrote: I just want to point out

[sage-devel] Re: ANN: sage-mode 0.5

2009-02-01 Thread Martin Albrecht
As always, please let me know if you use this, find bugs, or would like features. A big thanks to Matthias for contributing to the effort! Hi Nick, I just tried out sage-mode for the first time (gasp) and I'm quite please. One thing I'm missing from my normal shell is that when I type,

[sage-devel] Re: sage talk

2009-02-01 Thread Roman Pearce
On Feb 1, 12:46 pm, William Stein wst...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Feb 1, 2009 at 11:21 AM, Roman Pearce rpear...@gmail.com wrote: I just want to point out the Maple's linear algebra is not quite as bad as old Linbox times imply.  The linalg package has been obsolete for some time now.

[sage-devel] Sage 3.0.5 now available in Debian sid

2009-02-01 Thread Tim Abbott
Hello all, As of today, Sage 3.0.5 is available in Debian sid, so you can now run apt-get install sagemath and get Sage installed on your Debian system[1]. However, the sage package has bitrotted substantially during the 7 months it was hanging out in the NEW queue, so I'd not count on it to

[sage-devel] Re: Sage 3.0.5 now available in Debian sid

2009-02-01 Thread mabshoff
On Feb 1, 4:23 pm, Tim Abbott tabb...@mit.edu wrote: Hello all, Hi Tim, As of today, Sage 3.0.5 is available in Debian sid, so you can now run apt-get install sagemath and get Sage installed on your Debian system[1]. Excellent. However, the sage package has bitrotted substantially

[sage-devel] Re: large integer sparse matrices

2009-02-01 Thread mabshoff
On Feb 1, 1:08 pm, John H Palmieri jhpalmier...@gmail.com wrote: Hi John, SNIP Pari seems rather inefficient when the above sparse matrix requires more than 2GB Ram to compute. The sparse matrix code needs a good cleanup anyway. I agree, and I absolutely do not volunteer to do this.  

[sage-devel] Re: sage talk

2009-02-01 Thread mabshoff
On Feb 1, 1:26 pm, William Stein wst...@gmail.com wrote: SNIP Maple's Linear Algebra is noted for not being particularly good at large sizes. With symbolic entries, it's much worse. Thanks for these timings, it just reinforces my idea that I should switch as soon as the calculus

[sage-devel] Re: sage talk

2009-02-01 Thread William Stein
On Sun, Feb 1, 2009 at 3:55 PM, Roman Pearce rpear...@gmail.com wrote: On Feb 1, 12:46 pm, William Stein wst...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Feb 1, 2009 at 11:21 AM, Roman Pearce rpear...@gmail.com wrote: I just want to point out the Maple's linear algebra is not quite as bad as old Linbox

[sage-devel] Re: sage talk

2009-02-01 Thread William Stein
On Sun, Feb 1, 2009 at 3:55 PM, Roman Pearce rpear...@gmail.com wrote: By the way, most of the work for Sage computing dets uses IML, not Linbox. IML is very good. The algorithms are good :) I'm not sure what Magma is doing, but if I had to guess, I'd say they are solving a system AX=B

[sage-devel] Re: ANN: sage-mode 0.5

2009-02-01 Thread mabshoff
Well, given the fact that we will likely soon ship SageTeX with Sage itself is there any particular reason not to include Nick's code with default Sage? Given the number of Sage dev using Emcas [which for the record is canonically wrong since vim is the superior editor, but all you Emacs users

[sage-devel] Re: ANN: sage-mode 0.5

2009-02-01 Thread William Stein
On Sun, Feb 1, 2009 at 6:56 PM, mabshoff mabsh...@googlemail.com wrote: Well, given the fact that we will likely soon ship SageTeX with Sage itself is there any particular reason not to include Nick's code with default Sage? Given the number of Sage dev using Emcas [which for the record is

[sage-devel] Re: ANN: sage-mode 0.5

2009-02-01 Thread Nick Alexander
On 1-Feb-09, at 8:33 PM, William Stein wrote: On Sun, Feb 1, 2009 at 6:56 PM, mabshoff mabsh...@googlemail.com wrote: Well, given the fact that we will likely soon ship SageTeX with Sage itself is there any particular reason not to include Nick's code with default Sage? Given the

[sage-devel] Re: large integer sparse matrices

2009-02-01 Thread mabshoff
On Feb 1, 9:21 pm, John H Palmieri jhpalmier...@gmail.com wrote: On Feb 1, 4:44 pm, mabshoff mabsh...@googlemail.com wrote: SNIP Can you default it to LinBox in your case and report if LinBox causes trouble either by throwing an error or by producing wrong results? I don't think I can.

[sage-devel] Re: ANN: sage-mode 0.5

2009-02-01 Thread mabshoff
On Feb 1, 9:19 pm, Nick Alexander ncalexan...@gmail.com wrote: On 1-Feb-09, at 8:33 PM, William Stein wrote: On Sun, Feb 1, 2009 at 6:56 PM, mabshoff mabsh...@googlemail.com   wrote: Well, given the fact that we will likely soon ship SageTeX with Sage itself is there any particular

[sage-devel] Re: ANN: sage-mode 0.5

2009-02-01 Thread William Stein
On Sun, Feb 1, 2009 at 9:32 PM, mabshoff mabsh...@googlemail.com wrote: On Feb 1, 9:19 pm, Nick Alexander ncalexan...@gmail.com wrote: On 1-Feb-09, at 8:33 PM, William Stein wrote: On Sun, Feb 1, 2009 at 6:56 PM, mabshoff mabsh...@googlemail.com wrote: Well, given the fact that we