Re: [sage-devel] Re: Suggestion for the SageMath website

2018-06-25 Thread Peter Luschny
Sébastien Labbé: > > > My opinion is that the vast majority of people will not click on that > link. On the contrary, with the list of few random packages, the vast > majority will see some packages at each visit and each package will be > shown a nonzero ratio of the number of visits. > I

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Suggestion for the SageMath website

2018-06-25 Thread Sébastien Labbé
On Saturday, June 23, 2018 at 12:26:59 PM UTC+2, Harald Schilly wrote: > The poll has an option where it asks to add a comment here. My comment is > to not show any packages on the landing page (neither random selected or > some scrolling). Instead, a phrase like "consists of many packages",

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Suggestion for the SageMath website

2018-06-25 Thread Vincent Klein
@Peter & @Harald, the poll has been updated with your proposal. Le dimanche 24 juin 2018 20:32:35 UTC+2, Peter Luschny a écrit : > > > Instead, a phrase like "consists of many packages", where > > "many packages" is a hyperlink to the component page. That > > component page is the alphabetically

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Suggestion for the SageMath website

2018-06-24 Thread Peter Luschny
> Instead, a phrase like "consists of many packages", where > "many packages" is a hyperlink to the component page. That > component page is the alphabetically sorted list of all > what's in sagemath Why not integrate this list into the page? That binds things closer together. Like it is done

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Suggestion for the SageMath website

2018-06-23 Thread Harald Schilly
On Thursday, June 21, 2018 at 5:09:13 PM UTC+2, Vincent Klein wrote: > > I have created a poll to help the decision > https://framadate.org/kxRhiWt1dx95MCr5. It include the option to say the > poll is a bad idea. > The poll has an option where it asks to add a comment here. My comment is to

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Suggestion for the SageMath website

2018-06-21 Thread Vincent Klein
I have created a poll to help the decision https://framadate.org/kxRhiWt1dx95MCr5. It include the option to say the poll is a bad idea. Le jeudi 21 juin 2018 09:40:20 UTC+2, Vincent Klein a écrit : > > > > Le dimanche 17 juin 2018 13:03:54 UTC+2, Nikolay Hodyunya a écrit : >> >> Many people

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Suggestion for the SageMath website

2018-06-21 Thread Vincent Klein
Le dimanche 17 juin 2018 13:03:54 UTC+2, Nikolay Hodyunya a écrit : > > Many people would rather dislike this animation. As an alternative > solution, why won't we just pick some random packages to show every time > the page is requested? > You may be right, but it's hard to decide as it's a

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Suggestion for the SageMath website

2018-06-17 Thread Nikolay Hodyunya
Many people would rather dislike this animation. As an alternative solution, why won't we just pick some random packages to show every time the page is requested? On Sat, Jun 9, 2018 at 3:51 AM 'Bill Hart' via sage-devel < sage-devel@googlegroups.com> wrote: > Yeah, I actually agree with that

[sage-devel] Re: Suggestion for the SageMath website

2018-06-08 Thread 'Bill Hart' via sage-devel
Yeah, I actually agree with that now after looking at it. On Thursday, 7 June 2018 09:30:04 UTC+2, Vincent Klein wrote: > > >> On side note: Is there any problem with alphabetical order if the whole >> list is there? >> >> > Yes in my opinion. The animation takes 180 sec to display the whole

[sage-devel] Re: Suggestion for the SageMath website

2018-06-07 Thread Vincent Klein
> > > On side note: Is there any problem with alphabetical order if the whole > list is there? > > Yes in my opinion. The animation takes 180 sec to display the whole list. I think that's way longer than the average time people stay on the home page. The result is a inequal exposure because the

[sage-devel] Re: Suggestion for the SageMath website

2018-06-06 Thread 'Bill Hart' via sage-devel
I just mean so it appears below the part visible in standard desktop browsers, i.e. so it is not the first thing you see when you load the page. "Below the fold" is my terminology for something that requires an action to read it, such as was required on this ancient IBM ThinkPad:

[sage-devel] Re: Suggestion for the SageMath website

2018-06-06 Thread Vincent Klein
Le mercredi 6 juin 2018 17:06:45 UTC+2, Bill Hart a écrit : > > I would personally put it on the lower part of the page, so that it is > "below the fold" on most browsers (due to its scrolly nature). But maybe > others prefer it higher up. > "below the fold", you mean under library and search

[sage-devel] Re: Suggestion for the SageMath website

2018-06-06 Thread Vincent Klein
Le mercredi 6 juin 2018 17:06:45 UTC+2, Bill Hart a écrit : > > I would personally put it on the lower part of the page, so that it is > "below the fold" on most browsers (due to its scrolly nature). But maybe > others prefer it higher up. > "below the fold", you man under library and search

[sage-devel] Re: Suggestion for the SageMath website

2018-06-06 Thread 'Bill Hart' via sage-devel
On Wednesday, 6 June 2018 16:36:44 UTC+2, Vincent Klein wrote: > > Another alternative is to display all the packages in a slow scrolling > horizontal list ScrollingPackagePrototype.html > > . > Im not sure

[sage-devel] Re: Suggestion for the SageMath website

2018-06-06 Thread Vincent Klein
Another alternative is to display all the packages in a slow scrolling horizontal list ScrollingPackagePrototype.html . Im not sure if the move is too disturbing for the reader or not. Le vendredi 1 juin

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Suggestion for the SageMath website

2018-06-01 Thread William Stein
On Fri, Jun 1, 2018, 10:23 AM 'Bill Hart' via sage-devel < sage-devel@googlegroups.com> wrote: > > > On Friday, 1 June 2018 18:02:35 UTC+2, Bill Hart wrote: >> >> hence my suggestion to randomise the shortlist or remove it. >> > > Another technical solution, if the list is retained in any form

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Suggestion for the SageMath website

2018-06-01 Thread 'Bill Hart' via sage-devel
On Friday, 1 June 2018 18:02:35 UTC+2, Bill Hart wrote: > > hence my suggestion to randomise the shortlist or remove it. > Another technical solution, if the list is retained in any form on the front page, would be to have a scrolling list. This might reduce the technical task to the

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Suggestion for the SageMath website

2018-06-01 Thread 'Bill Hart' via sage-devel
On Friday, 1 June 2018 16:48:14 UTC+2, William wrote: > > > > > As I say, I don't think it is justifiable, except on technical and > > historical grounds. The work of all of those people is obviously, and > has > > obviously always been highly regarded and valued. > > PR's are very, very

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Suggestion for the SageMath website

2018-06-01 Thread William Stein
On Fri, Jun 1, 2018 at 7:22 AM, 'Bill Hart' via sage-devel wrote: > > > On Friday, 1 June 2018 15:12:31 UTC+2, kcrisman wrote: >> >> >> This seems very reasonable; the list probably dates to a much earlier time >> when there were some "main" dependencies but now there are SO many ... Can >> you

[sage-devel] Re: Suggestion for the SageMath website

2018-06-01 Thread 'Bill Hart' via sage-devel
On Friday, 1 June 2018 15:12:31 UTC+2, kcrisman wrote: > > > This seems very reasonable; the list probably dates to a much earlier time > when there were some "main" dependencies but now there are SO many ... Can > you make a ticket on http://github.com/sagemath/website so that Harald > (and

[sage-devel] Re: Suggestion for the SageMath website

2018-06-01 Thread 'Bill Hart' via sage-devel
Done. [1] [1] https://github.com/sagemath/website/issues/133 On Friday, 1 June 2018 15:12:31 UTC+2, kcrisman wrote: > > > > On Friday, June 1, 2018 at 8:46:52 AM UTC-4, Bill Hart wrote: >> >> Hi all, >> >> I've been aware for a while that some libraries are not happy that their >> package is

[sage-devel] Re: Suggestion for the SageMath website

2018-06-01 Thread kcrisman
On Friday, June 1, 2018 at 8:46:52 AM UTC-4, Bill Hart wrote: > > Hi all, > > I've been aware for a while that some libraries are not happy that their > package is not explicitly mentioned by name on the sagemath.org home page > and that you have to click through to the "and many more" to see