Hi Vladimir!
Sorry for not adding your full name, I have filled the ticket with
information that I could gather from the comments.
On Jun 14, 10:03 am, v...@ukr.net wrote:
On Tue, 14 Jun 2011 07:58:10 -0700 (PDT)
kcrisman kcris...@gmail.com wrote:
On Jun 14, 9:14 am, v...@ukr.net wrote:
Hello!
On Tue, 14 Jun 2011 23:49:10 -0700 (PDT)
Andrey Novoseltsev novos...@gmail.com wrote:
Usefulness of this work is somewhat questionable as we will not be
able to maintain these translations and it may lead to discrepancies
between detailed documentation and actual commands. In
Yes, I agree that some detailed books on Sage in Russian can
substitute the Russian help. Maybe having some consistent books even
better. In such case, what is the actual situation with the books on
Sage?
Regards,
Vladimir
I think that there is some nice book on Sage in French which
I now translated it. Does the person I will show it have to be a
developer of Sage?
Ege.
On Jun 14, 2:13 pm, Minh Nguyen nguyenmi...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi,
On Tue, Jun 14, 2011 at 8:58 PM, Ege Sertçetin sertcetin...@gmail.com wrote:
Also I can find one or two person to help translating. But
Hi Ege,
On Tue, Jun 14, 2011 at 11:01 PM, Ege Sertçetin sertce...@itu.edu.tr wrote:
I now translated it.
Cool!
Does the person I will show it have to be a
developer of Sage?
Preferably, but not strictly required to be a current Sage developer.
You should open a trac ticket, post your
Merhaba Ege,
On Tue, 14 Jun 2011 06:01:44 -0700 (PDT)
Ege Sertçetin sertce...@itu.edu.tr wrote:
I now translated it. Does the person I will show it have to be a
developer of Sage?
I'd be happy to review the translation. When you open a ticket [1]
add me (user name: burcin) to the CC list
On Jun 14, 9:14 am, v...@ukr.net wrote:
Hello!
By the way, I remember that some months ago a Russian translation of
Sage Tutorial had been ready. I personally edited it and formatted for
Sage documentation system, but still cannot find a way to read it on
the sagemath.org web site.
Also, the folks who created the Turkish quickstart referenced at
http://groups.google.com/group/sage-notebook/browse_thread/thread/10b134760aa3ddc0/bbeabdd283691b78?show_docid=bbeabdd283691b78
should be able to help. We'd love a group of Turkish developers to
add to
On Tue, 14 Jun 2011 07:58:10 -0700 (PDT)
kcrisman kcris...@gmail.com wrote:
On Jun 14, 9:14 am, v...@ukr.net wrote:
Hello!
By the way, I remember that some months ago a Russian translation
of Sage Tutorial had been ready. I personally edited it and
formatted for Sage
On Tue, 14 Jun 2011 07:58:10 -0700 (PDT)
kcrisman kcris...@gmail.com wrote:
See http://trac.sagemath.org/sage_trac/ticket/9378 - it is nearly
ready to go! Big thanks to Harald Schilly for turning it into the
proper format.
Please excuse me for posting such unnecessary things, but I've
Please excuse me for posting such unnecessary things, but I've just
seen that I'm the only person mentioned as a co-author of Russian
translation without my last name at the moment. :)
Not at all unnecessary - we try to give credit in Sage as much as
possible!
Obviously, my name was
On Apr 25, 2010, at 7:13 AM, Nathan O'Treally wrote:
On 25 Apr., 08:10, Robert Bradshaw rober...@math.washington.edu
wrote:
On Apr 23, 2010, at 7:07 PM, Nathan O'Treally wrote:
Though e.g. C and C++ do have automatic (or implicit) conversion, it
is usually referred to as (different kinds of)
On Apr 25, 2010, at 9:26 AM, Nathan O'Treally wrote:
On 25 Apr., 17:11, Gonzalo Tornaria torna...@math.utexas.edu wrote:
Also, the == doesn't fail part seems to force this, since it would
be even more awkward to hide the coercion failure.
See my last two posts. In addition, Sage behaves
On 26 Apr., 19:23, Robert Bradshaw rober...@math.washington.edu
wrote:
On Apr 25, 2010, at 9:26 AM, Nathan O'Treally wrote:
On 25 Apr., 17:11, Gonzalo Tornaria torna...@math.utexas.edu wrote:
Also, the == doesn't fail part seems to force this, since it would
be even more awkward to hide
On 04/25/2010 10:11 AM, Gonzalo Tornaria wrote:
With respect to NaN, it seems to me sage gets it wrong...
sage: 0.0/0.0 == 0.0/0.0
True
See http://trac.sagemath.org/sage_trac/ticket/8074 for a ticket
addressing this and other corner cases in RealField.
(the ticket needs a
On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 1:05 PM, Nathan O'Treally not.rea...@online.de wrote:
On 26 Apr., 19:23, Robert Bradshaw rober...@math.washington.edu
wrote:
On Apr 25, 2010, at 9:26 AM, Nathan O'Treally wrote:
On 25 Apr., 17:11, Gonzalo Tornaria torna...@math.utexas.edu wrote:
Also, the == doesn't
On Apr 23, 2010, at 7:07 PM, Nathan O'Treally wrote:
On 23 Apr., 11:10, Simon King simon.k...@nuigalway.ie wrote:
On Apr 22, 10:46 pm, Georg S. Weber georgswe...@googlemail.com
wrote:
I think I like Wandlung as the common umbrella term for both
coercion (Umwandlung, I like that, too) and
On 25 Apr., 08:10, Robert Bradshaw rober...@math.washington.edu
wrote:
On Apr 23, 2010, at 7:07 PM, Nathan O'Treally wrote:
Though e.g. C and C++ do have automatic (or implicit) conversion, it
is usually referred to as (different kinds of) type *casts*.
C++ does have additional explicitly
On 25 Apr., 08:10, Robert Bradshaw rober...@math.washington.edu
wrote:
On Apr 23, 2010, at 7:07 PM, Nathan O'Treally wrote:
The Tutorial (http://www.sagemath.org/doc/tutorial/
programming.html#loops-functions-control-statements-and-comparisons)
gives another example:
sage: GF(5)(1) ==
On Fri, Apr 23, 2010 at 11:07 PM, Nathan O'Treally not.rea...@online.de wrote:
[...] A coercion from one parent to another must be defined on the
whole domain, and always succeeds. As it may be invoked implicitly, it
should be obvious and natural (in both the mathematically rigorous and
On 25 Apr., 17:11, Gonzalo Tornaria torna...@math.utexas.edu wrote:
Also, the == doesn't fail part seems to force this, since it would
be even more awkward to hide the coercion failure.
See my last two posts. In addition, Sage behaves different to Python
in many other cases.
(I'd say it is
On Sun, Apr 25, 2010 at 1:26 PM, Nathan O'Treally not.rea...@online.de wrote:
On 25 Apr., 17:11, Gonzalo Tornaria torna...@math.utexas.edu wrote:
I'd rather have
sage: 1/3 == GF(3)(1)
raise a ZeroDivisionError, and
I'd prefer TypeError (or coercion error, incompatible types, not yet
kcrisman schrieb:
PS: If you are still in doubt, please, please do not use Wikipedia for
any proof! Wikipedia is only good for to make a religion. Please better
ask a computer scientist, best working in the field of computation, not
hardware! On your university there should be a collection of
Hi Georg,
On Apr 22, 10:46 pm, Georg S. Weber georgswe...@googlemail.com
wrote:
I think I like Wandlung as the common umbrella term for both
coercion (Umwandlung, I like that, too) and conversion (for the
latter I'd propose: Verwandlung --- but Konversion might do as
well, and would be a good
Simon King schrieb:
Hi Georg,
On Apr 22, 10:46 pm, Georg S. Weber georgswe...@googlemail.com
wrote:
I think I like Wandlung as the common umbrella term for both
coercion (Umwandlung, I like that, too) and conversion (for the
latter I'd propose: Verwandlung --- but Konversion might do as
Hi!
On Apr 23, 2:05 pm, bb bblo...@arcor.de wrote:
...
The second passage I found was at
http://www.sagemath.org/doc/tutorial/programming.html
... When comparing objects of different types in Sage, in most cases
Sage tries to find a canonical coercion of both objects to a common
parent.
Simon King schrieb:
Hi!
On Apr 23, 2:05 pm, bb bblo...@arcor.de wrote:
...
The second passage I found was at
http://www.sagemath.org/doc/tutorial/programming.html
... When comparing objects of different types in Sage, in most cases
Sage tries to find a canonical coercion of both objects
On Fri, Apr 23, 2010 at 10:15 AM, bb bblo...@arcor.de wrote:
Simon King schrieb:
Hi!
On Apr 23, 2:05 pm, bb bblo...@arcor.de wrote:
...
The second passage I found was at
http://www.sagemath.org/doc/tutorial/programming.html
... When comparing objects of different types in Sage, in
William Stein schrieb:
On Fri, Apr 23, 2010 at 10:15 AM, bb bblo...@arcor.de
mailto:bblo...@arcor.de wrote:
Simon King schrieb:
Hi!
On Apr 23, 2:05 pm, bb bblo...@arcor.de
mailto:bblo...@arcor.de wrote:
...
The second passage I found
PS: If you are still in doubt, please, please do not use Wikipedia for
any proof! Wikipedia is only good for to make a religion. Please better
ask a computer scientist, best working in the field of computation, not
hardware! On your university there should be a collection of that species!
On 23 Apr., 11:10, Simon King simon.k...@nuigalway.ie wrote:
On Apr 22, 10:46 pm, Georg S. Weber georgswe...@googlemail.com
wrote:
I think I like Wandlung as the common umbrella term for both
coercion (Umwandlung, I like that, too) and conversion (for the
latter I'd propose: Verwandlung
On 21 Apr., 21:37, Simon King simon.k...@nuigalway.ie wrote:
I am trying to translate coercion to German. In dictionaries and
Wikipedia, I only found the legal notion of a coercion, but I doubt
that kanonische Nötigung and Nötigungsmodell are good translations
for canonical coercion and
Hi!
On 22 Apr., 22:35, Nathan O'Treally not.rea...@online.de wrote:
Context? (just) Type theory?
More than type, I think, but it certainly goes in that direction.
E.g., you want to compare an element x of QQ with an element y of
ZZ['t'] -- then Sage finds that there are both canonical coercions
PS:
On 22 Apr., 23:13, Simon King simon.k...@nuigalway.ie wrote:
I like Umwandlung! It sounds rather natural to say Es gibt eine
kanonische Umwandlung von ZZ nach GF(5).
That said: How would one express the difference between conversion
and canonical coercion?
Example:
sage: R1.a,b = ZZ[]
On 22 Apr., 23:31, Simon King simon.k...@nuigalway.ie wrote:
PS:
On 22 Apr., 23:13, Simon King simon.k...@nuigalway.ie wrote:
I like Umwandlung! It sounds rather natural to say Es gibt eine
kanonische Umwandlung von ZZ nach GF(5).
That said: How would one express the difference
On Apr 21, 12:37 pm, Simon King simon.k...@nuigalway.ie wrote:
Hi!
I am trying to translate coercion to German. In dictionaries and
Wikipedia, I only found the legal notion of a coercion, but I doubt
that kanonische Nötigung and Nötigungsmodell are good translations
for canonical coercion
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