On Fri, 2023-04-28 at 18:06 +0100, Dr. David Kirkby wrote:
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> To me at least, it would be unwise not run the test suite.
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> If you are choosing to use 15-20 year old hardware, you can not reasonably
> to handle a large modern program like Sagemath. More modern machines than
> that get thrown
On Thu, 27 Apr 2023 at 15:49, Michael Orlitzky wrote:
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> The test suite can take another full day to run -- some of
> that is useful, but a lot is not. This is the biggest impediment to the
> use and development of sage on an old system.
To me at least, it would be unwise not run the test
On Thursday, April 27, 2023 at 2:54:47 PM UTC-7 Isuru Fernando wrote:
I guess there are several requirements we need
1. Support for all major OS/architecture combinations
2. Easy to build for rare OS/architecture combinations
3. Possible to install as a non-root user
4. Binaries are available
(I'm planning upgrades in the next year or two, but it will be to
relatively low power RISC-V hardware. There are moral, legal,
environmental, and other non-financial reasons why people use "old"
hardware. But of course the financial reasons are very real too.)
Agreed on all points.
On Thursday, April 27, 2023 at 2:54:47 PM UTC-7 Isuru Fernando wrote:
On Thu, Apr 27, 2023 at 1:00 PM Michael Orlitzky
wrote:
[...] Gentoo Prefix [...] Nix [...]
Guix and spack could also work.
I guess there are several requirements we need
1. Support for all major OS/architecture
On Thu, Apr 27, 2023 at 1:00 PM Michael Orlitzky
wrote:
> On Thu, 2023-04-27 at 05:49 -0700, William Stein wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > To what extent does or could Conda with a little more work solve most
> > of these problems? There are some notes below from me poking around,
> > and I'm very
On Thursday, April 27, 2023 at 5:12:45 AM UTC-7 kcrisman wrote:
As an example, how old of a Windows computer could one install the current
Sage on? I mean from scratch - not necessarily from source - using WSL,
which I guess is now the main supported way to do so?
One needs Windows >= 10
On Thu, Apr 27, 2023 at 1:21 PM Matthias Koeppe
wrote:
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> On Thursday, April 27, 2023 at 5:49:50 AM UTC-7 William Stein wrote:
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> To what extent does or could Conda with a little more work solve most
> of these problems? [...]
> I also think this section
>
On Thursday, April 27, 2023 at 10:07:44 AM UTC-7 Isuru Fernando wrote:
> and took 5.8GB disk instead of the 3GB disk of the Sage mac app).
Yes, conda packages usually come with batteries included which means
packages come with their
optional build time dependencies installed. That's usually not
On Thursday, April 27, 2023 at 5:49:50 AM UTC-7 William Stein wrote:
To what extent does or could Conda with a little more work solve most
of these problems? [...]
I also think this section
On Thu, 2023-04-27 at 05:49 -0700, William Stein wrote:
> Hi,
>
> To what extent does or could Conda with a little more work solve most
> of these problems? There are some notes below from me poking around,
> and I'm very optimistic.
This isn't the first time the idea has come up. Burcin got
Isuru,
Thanks for answering all my questions. I just want to reiterate that
I'm thrilled with what you are doing and greatly appreciate it!
William
On Thu, Apr 27, 2023 at 10:07 AM Isuru Fernando wrote:
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> > it fails with "└─ sage is uninstallable because there are no viable
> > options"
> it fails with "└─ sage is uninstallable because there are no viable
options"
We don't have a python 3.11 version of sage in conda yet. I started a PR
manually as the automatic update
failed for some reason.
> What is it doing that first time, and why is it silent? It's very
unnerving.
On Thu, 2023-04-27 at 05:12 -0700, kcrisman wrote:
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> As an example, how old of a Windows computer could one install the current
> Sage on? ...
>
> In any case, it would be very helpful for people who may be actively using
> Sge in less-resourced environment to chime in here.
>
My desktop
Hi,
To what extent does or could Conda with a little more work solve most
of these problems? There are some notes below from me poking around,
and I'm very optimistic.
I looked at
https://doc.sagemath.org/html/en/installation/conda.html
and I would love some further discussion of that and
As of today, it is plausible that such situations still exist.
I am wondering about such situations existing in less-resourced areas
globally (which would include less-resourced parts of developed countries).
One big advantage of Sage-the-distribution historically was the ability to
make
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