Re: [sage-release] Re: Sage 6.6.rc2 released
I made http://trac.sagemath.org/ticket/18131 to deal with this On Tuesday, April 7, 2015 at 10:56:41 AM UTC+2, Volker Braun wrote: I took a quick look at the pip sources and I think the ssl dependency can be stubbed out relatively easily. Did anybody try this? Really we should push this upstream, pip ought to be usable without ssl. On Tuesday, April 7, 2015 at 10:27:43 AM UTC+2, Thierry wrote: Hi, this is a known issue : pip requires that Python is built with ssl, but openssl cannot be standard because of licensing, hence pip can only be used to install optional packages, see http://trac.sagemath.org/ticket/17368 for a discussion. The following should work if you do not have libssl-dev on your system: cd $SAGE_ROOT ./sage -i openssl ./sage -f python make ./sage -pip install optional_package Ciao, Thierry On Mon, Apr 06, 2015 at 06:37:52PM -0700, kcrisman wrote: Apparently pip requires SSL... I take it you don't have a system-wide openssl(-devel) installation? I was indeed wondering whether that change would make any problems. Also on older installations? (Namely, which OS X versions should we assume will have this? I honestly don't know.) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups sage-release group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to sage-release...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to sage-r...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-release. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups sage-release group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to sage-release+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to sage-release@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-release. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [sage-release] Sage 6.6.rc2 released
It depends. To just use pip as a local installer it probably will work fine. If you want to connect to the pip repository to install extra python packages you’ll need SSL (and a relatively recent one too). The pip repo just won’t let you connect without SSL. François On 7/04/2015, at 20:58, Volker Braun vbraun.n...@gmail.com wrote: I made http://trac.sagemath.org/ticket/18131 to deal with this On Tuesday, April 7, 2015 at 10:56:41 AM UTC+2, Volker Braun wrote: I took a quick look at the pip sources and I think the ssl dependency can be stubbed out relatively easily. Did anybody try this? Really we should push this upstream, pip ought to be usable without ssl. On Tuesday, April 7, 2015 at 10:27:43 AM UTC+2, Thierry wrote: Hi, this is a known issue : pip requires that Python is built with ssl, but openssl cannot be standard because of licensing, hence pip can only be used to install optional packages, see http://trac.sagemath.org/ticket/17368 for a discussion. The following should work if you do not have libssl-dev on your system: cd $SAGE_ROOT ./sage -i openssl ./sage -f python make ./sage -pip install optional_package Ciao, Thierry On Mon, Apr 06, 2015 at 06:37:52PM -0700, kcrisman wrote: Apparently pip requires SSL... I take it you don't have a system-wide openssl(-devel) installation? I was indeed wondering whether that change would make any problems. Also on older installations? (Namely, which OS X versions should we assume will have this? I honestly don't know.) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups sage-release group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to sage-release...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to sage-r...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-release. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups sage-release group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to sage-release+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to sage-release@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-release. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups sage-release group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to sage-release+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to sage-release@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-release. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[sage-release] Re: Error building sagenb
Hi Volker, On 2015-04-07, Volker Braun vbraun.n...@gmail.com wrote: See http://trac.sagemath.org/ticket/18131 ... which says pip requires ssl. Does that mean openssl is not enough any more? Best regards, Simon -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups sage-release group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to sage-release+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to sage-release@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-release. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [sage-release] Sage 6.6.rc2 released
Thats what I meant, provide stubs for when there is no ssl. On Tuesday, April 7, 2015 at 12:47:40 PM UTC+2, François wrote: I realise that;s what you want to do personally but I understand other use pip to supplement sage’s collection of packages. William probably wouldn’t be happy with a package manager that cannot pull packages. Now, if we can just make sure that pip doesn’t need SSL for local install but can still use it to pull packages that’s a win for everybody. François On 7/04/2015, at 22:37, Volker Braun vbrau...@gmail.com javascript: wrote: Yes, we want to install local tarballs. On Tuesday, April 7, 2015 at 11:37:46 AM UTC+2, François wrote: It depends. To just use pip as a local installer it probably will work fine. If you want to connect to the pip repository to install extra python packages you’ll need SSL (and a relatively recent one too). The pip repo just won’t let you connect without SSL. François On 7/04/2015, at 20:58, Volker Braun vbrau...@gmail.com wrote: I made http://trac.sagemath.org/ticket/18131 to deal with this On Tuesday, April 7, 2015 at 10:56:41 AM UTC+2, Volker Braun wrote: I took a quick look at the pip sources and I think the ssl dependency can be stubbed out relatively easily. Did anybody try this? Really we should push this upstream, pip ought to be usable without ssl. On Tuesday, April 7, 2015 at 10:27:43 AM UTC+2, Thierry wrote: Hi, this is a known issue : pip requires that Python is built with ssl, but openssl cannot be standard because of licensing, hence pip can only be used to install optional packages, see http://trac.sagemath.org/ticket/17368 for a discussion. The following should work if you do not have libssl-dev on your system: cd $SAGE_ROOT ./sage -i openssl ./sage -f python make ./sage -pip install optional_package Ciao, Thierry On Mon, Apr 06, 2015 at 06:37:52PM -0700, kcrisman wrote: Apparently pip requires SSL... I take it you don't have a system-wide openssl(-devel) installation? I was indeed wondering whether that change would make any problems. Also on older installations? (Namely, which OS X versions should we assume will have this? I honestly don't know.) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups sage-release group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to sage-release...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to sage-r...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-release. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups sage-release group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to sage-release...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to sage-r...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-release. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups sage-release group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to sage-release...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to sage-r...@googlegroups.com javascript:. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-release. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups sage-release group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to sage-release+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to sage-release@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-release. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [sage-release] Re: Error building sagenb
On 07/04/2015, Volker Braun vbraun.n...@gmail.com wrote: On Tuesday, April 7, 2015 at 1:04:57 PM UTC+2, Simon King wrote: PS: Where do I get the missing dependencies from? Apparently it was not enough to get libopenssl and libopenssl-devel (previously, I had libopenssl in 32 bit version, even though my machine is 64 bit; don't know what has happened there) and to do ./sage -f pip. Did you compile Sage after installing openssl-devel? Python must build the ssl module. Does import ssl work? sage -f pip is not enough. Python itself must be compiled with ssl support. So after installing libssl-dev you need to do sage -f python make sage -f pip Vincent -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups sage-release group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to sage-release+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to sage-release@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-release. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[sage-release] Re: Error building sagenb
Hi François, On 2015-04-07, Francois Bissey francois.bis...@canterbury.ac.nz wrote: pip came into play here: http://trac.sagemath.org/ticket/17913 basically at least one component (webassets) keep being difficult with easy-install and the decision was made to use pip for sagenb. You are not the first one to see this and it means you probably don’t openssl development packages installed in your host distro. I did install them today, and I did rebuild pip, namely sage -f pip, after installing libopenssl-devel. I do not have libgnutls-openssl-devel and not libopenssl-devel-32bit (I have a 64 bit openSUSE installation). Best regards, Simon -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups sage-release group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to sage-release+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to sage-release@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-release. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[sage-release] Re: Error building sagenb
Hi Volker, On 2015-04-07, Volker Braun vbraun.n...@gmail.com wrote: Did you compile Sage after installing openssl-devel? Python must build the ssl module. Does import ssl work? No, import ssl in sage-python fails with ImportError: No module named _ssl (note the underscore). What I did (without success) was make start. So, I take it that make start would not recognise the presence of openssl-devel, so that I need to rebuild sage-python by ./sage -f python, and then do make start again. Best regards, Simon -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups sage-release group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to sage-release+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to sage-release@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-release. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [sage-release] Re: Error building sagenb
On 2015-04-07 13:31, Vincent Delecroix wrote: sage -f pip is not enough. Python itself must be compiled with ssl support. So after installing libssl-dev you need to do sage -f python make sage -f pip Since pip depends on Python, the following should be enough: sage -f python make -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups sage-release group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to sage-release+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to sage-release@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-release. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[sage-release] Re: Error building sagenb
Hi Jeroen, On 2015-04-07, Jeroen Demeyer jdeme...@cage.ugent.be wrote: Since pip depends on Python, the following should be enough: sage -f python make Yes, that did the job. Thank you very much! Simon -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups sage-release group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to sage-release+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to sage-release@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-release. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
