On Saturday, November 22, 2014 7:09:21 PM UTC-5, moroplogo wrote:
*This example is edited with linux mint 17.I tested this example with
linux ubuntu 14.10 and sagemath runs correctly !*
See http://trac.sagemath.org/ticket/17375 for some possible details on why
if this thread hasn't
I am still thinkig about this... Let's reverse thing:
Can I install arbitraty (non-mathematical) packages to Sage's internal
python?
Yes, absolutely.
For example on ./sage -sh shell command easy_install nltk says Download
error on https://pypi.python.org/simple/: unknown url
The old sage-bdist script saved the app and non-app version under the same
name, somebody changed that without telling me. Rebuilding now..
Aha! Yes, that is true - http://trac.sagemath.org/ticket/16919 - and that
actually is a feature, along with some other nice things. Unfortunately
So you can assume that an empty list means only that sage's algorithms
find no solution.
I just looked at the documentation of solve and could not find an explicit
statement about missed solutions.
Even if it is expectable that in some cases (which?) solve may not return
all
I tried installing sage 6.4 from several binaries but everytime I started a
new sage and type in some calculations, the above warning message appears.
If I re-type the exact calculations again, such warnings disappear.
Further, it seems that these warnings are related to certain
solve it. However, it should not be necessary! Volker,
any ideas on what the buildbot was thinking?
@Nils and @kcrisman, thanks again for all your help.
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Hmm yes, the app and non-app dmg are identical for some reason
Possibly because SAGE_APP_BUNDLE=yes was not set? Or did it attempt but
fail (but then the failure did not break the bdist process - which would be
worrisome!)?
Luckily this should be easier to fix than some other bugs!
On Monday, November 17, 2014 8:49:14 PM UTC-5, Bozh wrote:
I run the following code:
$ sage -maxima
And the messages are:
Can you see what is in
$ ls /usr/include/sys/
presumably types.h should be there.
Did you download a binary? Can you say precisely which one you downloaded?
However,
plot(sin,[x,-2*pi,2*pi],figsize=4).show()
woks as advertised. This seems to be bound to recent changes in the
management of display modes for the new ipython needs.
Oh yes. You might want to see http://trac.sagemath.org/ticket/17170 for
some possible ideas on how to fix it,
*numerical way*
(double checked by Wolfram Alpha
http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=int%20from%202%20to%203%20of%201%2Flog%28x%29%5E2
and Maple):
sage: numerical_integral(1/log(x)^2,2,3)
(*1.273097216447114*, 1.4134218422857824e-14)
*symbolic way*
(I think this is wrong)
Of
Hmm, I can't reproduce this problem. I am working w/ Maxima 5.34.1.
(%i1) display2d : false $
(%i2) foo : 1/log(x)^2 $
(%i3) integrate (foo, x, 2, 3);
(%o3) gamma_incomplete(-1,-log(3))-gamma_incomplete(-1,-log(2))
(%i4) %, numer;
(%o4) 1.273097216447114
(%i5)
I think that Jan had some similar things happen, and may have some advice...
For the record, my students got this error a couple times, on a relatively
recent Ubuntu, with Sage 6.3, probably recompiled on site. Usually, this is
due to Sage dying brutally (typically when they close the
Is it possible to have Sage notebook as a GUI for system python, i.e. one
in /usr/bin/ using packages from /usr/lib?
Explanation: nltk is installable as an Ubuntu package (python-nltk).
Importing it fails on Sage (No module named nltk). After few calls to
sys.path.append() it ends to
Would you recommend putting this somewhere in the sagenb documentation?
I
wasn't even aware of this .sage/notebook/ directory, since I'm not an
admin.
Hmm... Where? Maybe
http://www.sagemath.org/doc/reference/notebook/sagenb/notebook/notebook_object.html
could have on secure
Just following myself up to note that yes, moving .sage/notebook out of
the way and restarting the server did regenerate keys and Firefox was able
to connect successfully.
Thanks for your help.
On Wednesday, October 29, 2014 1:02:02 PM UTC-4, mjs wrote:
I'm the OP and I run the Sage
.
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On Tue, 28 Oct 2014, kcrisman wrote:
This is a little hermetic for me. Are you all saying that sagenb using
openssl is the problem, or that one needs to have it reconfigured to use
better encryption, or that people running Sage servers need to buy
certificates, or ... ? Thanks
See https://sourceforge.net/p/maxima/bugs/2829/ and
https://sourceforge.net/p/maxima/bugs/2829/
Sorry, I meant http://trac.sagemath.org/ticket/17249 and
https://sourceforge.net/p/maxima/bugs/2829/
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We shutdown the old computer boxen.math.washington.edu
http://boxen.math.washington.edu, on which
interact.sagemath.org http://interact.sagemath.org was (maybe?)
hosted, since it was running a very
old unpatch-able version of Linux. We gave people weeks to migrate
I see, so the server will indeed automatically generate the correct
keys, but if it previously generated them and is still using the same
ones then it might not. Thanks for clarifying.
But what Sage should do? If somebody manually runs notebook(), then it
could just ask something
, or that one needs to have it reconfigured to use
better encryption, or that people running Sage servers need to buy
certificates, or ... ? Thanks for any clarification.
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See https://sourceforge.net/p/maxima/bugs/2829/
and https://sourceforge.net/p/maxima/bugs/2829/
When I enter in the code:
a,b=var('a b');
assume(4*b^2-4*a^20);
assume((b-a)*(b+a)0);
integrate(1/(a-b*sin(x)),x,-oo,oo)
It complains and asks whether (b-a)*(b+a) is negative
or something?
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- towards the top of every notebook worksheet,
there are four drop-down menus:
[File...][Action...][Data...][sage]
You can use the last of these menus and
change 'sage' to 'python'.
And you can make it so that the default for the worksheet is this
Or, in the notebook/cell server/cloud, choose python from the drop-down
menu for system and just do this example in Python! Lots of options.
Or type
Integer = int
to make Sage integers the usual Python integers in that session.
On Thu, Oct 23, 2014 at 11:54 AM, Volker Braun
I'm not disputing your own results. I'm just saying that it isn't
always my experience, and it depends a lot on one's bandwidth situation.
Even just now while logging in was usably fast (first time ever! but likely
due to your upgrades) it took about 10 seconds for an actual project to
differently)
Thanks - I meant %runfile not %execfile. I find it hard to remember,
which is yet another reason I am against removal of the more memorable
%load that we had for years.
Agreed, but this was semi-unavoidable because of the Ipython upgrade a
while back, though, right?
I've attached two screenshots proving this (showing the load times,
number of requests, total data transferred, etc.).
I'm not disputing your own results. I'm just saying that it isn't always
my experience, and it depends a lot on one's bandwidth situation. Even
just now while logging
sage: solve(-(1/2*sqrt((4*w+1)+1))*t+w==0,w)
[w == 1/2*sqrt(4*w + 2)*t]
Well, if I'm not mistaken, Sage punts to Maxima's 'solve' function,
which, I'm sorry to report, is not very strong (it can solve a
relatively narrow range of problems). But I find that Maxima's
'to_poly_solve'
forward:
What is command (terminal) to change SAGE to SINGULAR?
Thank you
+++
Dear Selvaraja,
I think this is what you mean? Or do you mean using Singular from within
Sage itself?
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$ sage -singular
SINGULAR
forward:
What is command (terminal) to change SAGE to SINGULAR?
Thank you
+++
Dear Selvaraja,
I think this is what you mean? Or do you mean using Singular from within
Sage itself?
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$ sage -singular
SINGULAR
Hello,
%python does not resolve this problem unfortunately.
I understand that pre-parser is a difficult problem.
I tried the following, which works.
r('library(ggplot2)')
r('p - ggplot(mtcars, aes(x = factor(cyl))) + geom_bar()')
r('plot(p)')
Well, %python definitely wouldn't work
are
successful, though, it would be interesting as an alternate print option!
Good luck,
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Nevertheless, it seems that QEPCAD is not anymore installed/working. Try
http://sagecell.sagemath.org/?q=xlgebu
That's a pity. I was using it [1], but I didn't find the time to learn
how to fix (and update) the broken [2] qepcad spkg.
But I'm sure if #10224 is fixed somehow then
This is http://trac.sagemath.org/ticket/9671
And in my review queue, but I'm not quite there yet. I have also had to
show people how to do this by hand many times, using at least one of
* TimeSeries
* Matplotlib directly
* Numpy
* R graphics
Indeed, I was hoping a magic
Hi there,
I used to work with the version 5.13 on my MacBookAir, and I recently
wanted to install the latest version. Everything went right during the
installation, I have no problem to launch Sage in a terminal. The problem
is when I try to launch the notebook from the terminal, the
Hello.
Is it possible to ask to sage to give formulas for simple recursive
sequences ?
For example, *w_{n+1} = (n+1)/n*w_n + 1/n* with *w_0 = 1* , we have *w_n
= 2 n + 1* . More simple example could be arithmetico-geometrical
sequences *w_{n+1} = a*w_n + b* .
Christophe BAL
sage: bessel_K(3,x).diff(x)
1/2*bessel_K(4, x) + 1/2*bessel_K(2, x)
sage: SR(maxima_calculus(bessel_K(3,x)).diff(x))
-1/2*bessel_K(4, x) - 1/2*bessel_K(2, x)
Given that bessel_K(3,x) is not a constant function, at least one of
those answers must be wrong.
The formula is hard-coded in
Ok, convert to maxima, derive, convert back to sage works fine.
Good workaround! But I assume this is still incorrect in Sage proper,
though? (The derivative is done by Pynac/Ginac, not Maxima.)
At first a little bit confusing for the unprepared mind though.
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sage: simplify_full
I'm pretty sure simplify_full is only a method of symbolic expressions, not
a function. E.g.
sage: (x^2+x+1).simplify_full()
Good luck,
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Can you be more specific about exactly what you were trying to do? This is
very vague, just reporting a log without context. Thanks!
On Wednesday, September 17, 2014 10:10:06 AM UTC-4, Jacques Avigdor wrote:
Here the act Log
Traceback (most recent call last):
File
For reference, there is now a pull request for fixing this on sagenb!
https://github.com/sagemath/sagenb/pull/220
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I'm assuming this is the binary download of sage for ubuntu?
This discussion might be relevant:
http://trac.sagemath.org/ticket/8049
Maybe the suggestion there might help:
$ sudo apt-get install libgfortran3
Or apt-getting numpy often helps with this sort of error on the Ubuntu
Sorry to dredge this up... in case anyone finds this, it was fixed
in http://trac.sagemath.org/ticket/5474 a few months later!
sage: latex.matrix_delimiters([, ])
On Thursday, December 18, 2008 5:54:22 AM UTC-5, Robert Bradshaw wrote:
On Dec 17, 2008, at 11:52 PM, Geodet wrote:
I don't
http://math.stackexchange.com/questions/919920/modular-forms-on-gamma-0n-with-character-in-sage
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I believe I've now succeeded in building a Mac OS X 10.6 .app version
of Sage 6.3 (with help recorded in a separate thread).
Great.
Is there any way to tell from inside Sage that it is running in
64-bit mode?
The output from '$ ./sage -bdist' showed some strange looking command line
Some of you may want to know about this question:
http://stackoverflow.com/questions/25570037/best-language-to-do-some-annoying-generating-function-computations
excerpt:
The computation relies on a few ingredients.
1. The first is that I need to be able to compute characters of the
f1(x)=1/sqrt(x^3+2)
f2(x)=1/sqrt(x^4+2)
r1=RR(integrate(f1(x),(x,1,10^(10
r2=RR(integrate(f2(x),(x,1,10^(10
s1=RR(integrate(f1(x),(x,1,10^(11
s2=RR(integrate(f2(x),(x,1,10^(11
Note that probably using something like
sage: numerical_integral(f2,1,10^8)
To track further the code you can use the magic import_statements
inside Sage which tells you where to find a class/function
{{{
sage: import_statements('HyperbolicTriangle')
from sage.plot.hyperbolic_triangle import HyperbolicTriangle
sage: HyperbolicTriangle??
}}}
Or
It appears that it uses BezierPaths.
I see. In turn the filling property is inherited from the BezierPath
class. I've had a look at the code but I can hardly understand anything.
I will note that someone didn't actually doctest _hyperbolic_arc, grr!
I'll look at this - it's almost
On Friday, August 29, 2014 1:19:32 PM UTC-4, Pierre wrote:
Dear all,
Let's draw two discs with region_plot:
sage: disc1= region_plot(lambda x, y : x^2+y^2 1, (x, -1, 1), (y, -1, 1))
sage: disc2= region_plot(lambda x, y : (x-0.7)^2+(y-0.7)^2 0.5, (x, -2,
2), (y, -2, 2) )
If we plot
This is now http://trac.sagemath.org/ticket/16907
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Sage punts numerical integrals to QUADPACK or a translation of it,
What does GSL use? I forgot that Scipy also has quadrature, in addition to
Maxima... wealth of riches.
right? QUADPACK is based on Gauss-Kronrod rules which are essentially
Gaussian integration + an efficient
A failure ? Why ?
See http://sagemath.blogspot.com/
However, note that this is with respect to a very high goal indeed, which
is to replicate every last bit of functionality in the programs mentioned
in the mission statement.
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You always say stuff like that (buy the poor guy a few gig of ram,
etc.).
But it's not grossly negligent if you aren't going to phishing
sites
well, our sysadmins told me in no uncertain terms few months ago that they
won't let a laptop running OSX 10.6 anywhere near our
Apple apparently preferred users upgrading to 10.7,
Considering that Apple dropped support for 10.6 it is imho grossly
negligent to connect a OSX 10.6 machine to the internet. Upgrade to OSX
=10.7 or Linux ;-)
You always say stuff like that (buy the poor guy a few gig of ram,
I am running Mavericks, and I only need my notebooks to persist. I am
currently running 6.2.
Why don't you just install a binary release of 6.3 for your platform?
It does not destroy your notebooks, as far as I know.
Correct, it lives somewhere totally different. For most
I've done a couple of experiments with the latest version of Sage (6.3)
under OS X 10.6.8, using the official 10.7 and 10.6 binaries available for
download.
(1) *sage-6.3-x86_64-Darwin-OSX_10.7_x86_64.dmg*
/thematic_tutorials/index.html ?
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10.6 -app versions ourselves?
Hopefully not, but it may require volunteers to create them. It might even
be possible for you to make your own version of it, true. I have a 10.7
binary which I have offered to upload but of course that wouldn't help you.
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Thanks, Dima, I will continue to experiment. At the moment I am
having fun with show3d(color_by_label=True)!
There are two helper functions you may like, buried in a module because I
did not know how to write a nice user interface for that:
sage: from sage.graphs.graph_plot import
recently, when trying to start (at least recent version 6.3) 'sage', it
constantly got 'Killed'
on my SL 6.5 system at work. Luckily, I succeeded using the '--nodotsage'
option.
Environment: I have several different local 'sage' installations.
Q1: Why does 'sage' crash without the
sage: points(map(lambda x:x[0].N(),(z^20+1).roots()), figsize=4,
aspect_ratio=1)
These are all complex.
sage: points(map(lambda x:x[0].N(),(z^20-1).roots()), figsize=4,
aspect_ratio=1)
map(lambda x:x[0].N(),(z^20-1).roots())
[0.951056516295154 + 0.309016994374947*I,
/LIBo8nwftkI You can
see some noble attempts at this at http://trac.sagemath.org/ticket/6756 .
Good luck!
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Consider
plot(Graph({1:[2],1:[3]}))
I would expect two edges. Instead the vertex 2 isn't even there. Is
this a bug or a feature? The documentation for this way of entering graphs
is pretty terse so I was quite surprised by this outcome.
Sage never comes into play here. Dictionary
Consider
plot(Graph({1:[2],1:[3]}))
I would expect two edges. Instead the vertex 2 isn't even there. Is this
a bug or a feature? The documentation for this way of entering graphs is
pretty terse so I was quite surprised by this outcome.
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The underlying package, maxima, doesn't exhibit this tolerant behaviour:
(%i10) desolve(diff(y(x),x)+y(x)=1,y(z));
desolve: can't handle this case.
however, as you can see when you type desolve?? (which shows the
source), the sage implementation does a lot of pre- and
? Is this
a massively parallel thing? I don't know if that would solve your memory
issues or not but it seems like what you are trying to do from a cursory
reading of your post.
http://www.sagemath.org/doc/reference/parallel/
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for x/x might be hard!). It's possible to not
immediately do such reductions
sage: x.mul(1/x,hold=True)
x/x
but I'm not sure how to combine that with the substitution that you are
doing.
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The second one is, of course, the correct answer. (FYI, Mathematica9 fails,
too.)
Wouldn't
Is putting patches on github a new experimental unsupported development
feature?
I think that Robert actually somewhat supports this new experimental
feature :)
On Friday, July 18, 2014 1:42:56 PM UTC+8, Robert Bradshaw wrote:
https://github.com/sagemath/sage/pull/21 aka
On Wednesday, July 9, 2014 3:41:24 PM UTC-4, Jole Bradbury wrote:
Then how do people set up sage servers? Should I use the notebook?
http://wstein.org
Typical Sage servers are just public instances of the notebook - see for
instance http://wiki.sagemath.org/SageServer though it's a
- including the important one to do sage -b at the end!
You may also
find http://ask.sagemath.org/question/7986/sage-462-how-to-use-cplex/
and https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/sage-support/CyepDJjSgHM useful.
Good luck!
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On Thursday, July 10, 2014 5:22:50 AM UTC-4, vdelecroix wrote:
I
problem is
more prosaic:
3(x-1)
Sage can support implicit multiplication but we encourage people not to do
so. 3*(x-1) is what you're looking for, and hopefully that will solve your
problem! Good luck.
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However, this only yields
If anyone else who knows more about this stuff is following the
conversation, I'd appreciate an eye thrown on my updated answer
at http://stackoverflow.com/questions/24636822/how-to-properly-import-sage/
which involves writing a Python script whose sole purpose is to call a
shell script
sum(x^(3*k)/factorial(2*k),k,0,oo)
I understand that Sage has limited exploitation of Maxima's hypergeometric
functionality, and I suspect this is the main issue. Are there any
conceivable workarounds?
This actually works out of the box in the latest development release,
probably with
Anyone??
As you know, I've already had several useless ideas for you on another
forum :( but here is another one. Is Sage itself in your regular path? By
that I mean that in my PATH I have
On Tuesday, July 8, 2014 10:40:26 PM UTC-4, kcrisman wrote:
Anyone??
As you know, I've already had several useless ideas for you on another
forum :( but here is another one. Is Sage itself in your regular path? By
that I mean that in my PATH I have
/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/sbin
On Friday, June 27, 2014 5:26:36 PM UTC-4, Christoph Jentzsch wrote:
Hi there,
solve([sin(cos(x))/cos(x)==0],x) gives:
[x == 1/2*pi]
which is wrong. There is no solution.
Thanks for reporting this.
See plot(sin(cos(x))/cos(x),(-pi,pi))
Well, in any case solve isn't supposed
happens - maybe some other people on 10.9 can
try to replicate this.
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For reference, see http://trac.sagemath.org/ticket/16533 - apparently this
example is even from the documentation! Strange.
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http://stackoverflow.com/questions/12433695/extract-elements-of-list-at-odd-positions
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You, saw a plot? I didn't see a plot.
Hmm. Can you say more about *exactly* what version of Sage, setup, and so
forth you are using?The plot appears for me with Sage 5.12 but not in
Sage 6.3.beta3 (though that one may have had #13246 applied). ppurka, do
you have a sense as to
I just sent the message below to you, but it looks like I was trying to
start from the .dmg image which is no-write. Sorry. Ignore my previous
message for now.
Yes, this would probably cause this error. Good luck!
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I would like to plot my wave function probability P vs. x, but it
would be cool if I could have a time slider that shows how the plot
changes parametrically.
This should be pretty easy with interacts. (Do interact? in a Sage
prompt/cell for more info, or see
On Monday, June 23, 2014 9:18:29 PM UTC-4, Chris Maness wrote:
I am trying to plot a superposition of two static states psi1 and psi2
that compose a state system Psi. Here is my code so far:
I'm not sure what happened here. I should point out that you don't need
to declare a variable
folks take to zero in on the
problem?
I know this is a lot to ask but half this battle is getting started so any
suggestions would be helpful. Thanks!
Have a GREAT DAY!!
Awesome! I've reported your observation
at https://github.com/sagemath/sagenb/issues/210
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By the way, I can't reproduce this with Sage 5.12, so it must be newish? I
*do* get this behavior if I try to create account with no username. That
said, I can navigate back by just using the browser's back button.
I don't know - a lot use Emacs. I don't think a lot of people use an IDE.
On Thursday, June 5, 2014 11:24:39 PM UTC-4, Robert Dodier wrote:
On 2014-06-06, kcrisman kcri...@gmail.com javascript: wrote:
lim(1/n^2*integrate(sin((2*n+1)*x)/sinh(x),x,0,pi/2),n=infinity)
I couldn't make any progress with the integral (in Maxima).
Computing the integral
I want to know the best practices for extending the functionality of a
sage class. For example, I would like to add the following method to the
Partition class in sage:
#\lambda^(i) from Carrell-Goulding paper
def i_part(self,i):
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return self
elif i0:
i once did a stupid thing and changed my password for mistake. does anyone
know how to change my password but to my old one? because is not allowing
me to put my old password.
We need more context. Is this your local Sage installation, sagenb.org,
Sage math cloud... ?
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This is pretty much *the* worst gotcha of Sage. You could do this instead:
[[j/k for j in srange(1,k+1)] for k in srange(1,5)]
It makes a range-like object, but respects the types of the input
variables of the srange, which are Integer in this case.
Yup, this is always nasty. Now,
it looks like it's too much of a nut to crack, at least
without some further manipulation. I assume that this doesn't have an
antiderivative composed of elementary functions? And the integral is very
improper... looks like a challenge! But hope this helps.
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candidates for Python, and a good integration of this with Sage is
definitely possible, and we would welcome contributions toward this. I
believe many people already use pandas with Sage...
Good luck!
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Thank you for the response, kcrisman (sorry I don’t know your first name).
No problem - very long ago I just chose this handle.
Thanks for your config info - I don't see why any of this should affect it,
thankfully, though I'm sorry you have had such trouble! Glad you found the
other
Awesome resolution. Thanks for helping on this, John. I don't know why
the rc file didn't occur to me, that often has been a problem in the past,
as you say.
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be necessary to edit the makefile
to specify the path to gmp.
Also, see https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/sage-devel/oH6Jrjs-HUY
for a very interesting historical discussion about lrs and Sage.
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Hi! Is it possible that some locations changed in your installation? Here
is an old post that has a very similar error:
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/sage-support/fV2VNL-5UuY
Otherwise, perhaps the problem may be the one described here:
I don't know but that is a great question!
Is it possible to display a directed graph in Sage so that only some of the
edges are dashed? I found the edge_style option, but that seems to apply
to all of the edges simultaneously.
UAW
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Hi, I just started using sage and I previoulsy saved a project in html
format. Now I want to import and edit it, but when i do it all i see is
html code, and that's not what i need. I'd like to have the standard sage
interface with the evaluate button and all the rest, i don't know if you
On Monday, May 12, 2014 4:52:42 PM UTC-4, Dima Pasechnik wrote:
On 2014-05-12, J.A. Ketch jketc...@gmail.com javascript: wrote:
thank you all for the answers
the version of my sage is : Sage Version 6.1.1, Release Date:
2014-02-04,
so I can not use hg. Some sites for the development
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