Re: [sage-support] Problems with Pre-built sage binaries 5.1 on Debian(Testing)

2012-07-26 Thread Jeroen Demeyer
On 2012-07-26 02:26, Daniel M. wrote: Which binary did you download for this? Or did you compile sage-5.0.1 from source? Well, i just go to *http://sagemath.c3sl.ufpr.br/linux/64bit/index.html* and pick the newer ubuntu version (in this case, the 12.04 LTS) that's why a just put the name of

[sage-support] random problem

2012-07-26 Thread robin hankin
I am trying to generate random numbers and am running into roundoff problems: RealDistribution('uniform', [1,1+1/10^16]).get_random_element()-1 This returns zero every time for me, something that is almost surely wrong. I would expect a number chosen from the interval (0,1e-16). How do I make

Re: [sage-support] random problem

2012-07-26 Thread Ajay Rawat
Dear Robin Actually you are working with machine precision, i.e., eps(10^-16) in double precison. it means that 1+eps == 1 in double precision. try from mpmath import * 10^-16*mp.rand() or, as you have coded from mpmath import * mp.dps = 30 (mpf(1.0)+10^-16*mp.rand())-mpf(1.0) On Thu, Jul 26,

[sage-support] basic question on constant of integration when using desolve

2012-07-26 Thread Nasser M. Abbasi
I do not know much of anything about sage. But I was using desolve on http://www.sagenb.org to compare an answer, and I am confused on the type-setting of of constant of integration in solution of an ode. Googled around but nothing specific I could find. When I ask sage to solve an ode using

[sage-support] Interact within an Interact

2012-07-26 Thread Aled Crow
After coming across the following Interact within an Interact example ( http://interact.sagemath.org/node/15) created by Ira Hanson, I wanted to know whether it is technically possible to create an interact within an interact for my code below. My vision is to create an interact within an

[sage-support] Re: Interact within an Interact

2012-07-26 Thread Jason Grout
On 7/26/12 3:45 AM, Aled Crow wrote: After coming across the following Interact within an Interact example (http://interact.sagemath.org/node/15) created byIra Hanson, I wanted to know whether it is technically possible to create an interact within an interact for my code below. Yes, though

Re: [sage-support] random problem

2012-07-26 Thread Jeroen Demeyer
On 2012-07-26 11:40, robin hankin wrote: How do I make sage do what I want? Well, what do you want? -- To post to this group, send email to sage-support@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to sage-support+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group

Re: [sage-support] random problem

2012-07-26 Thread Alex Ghitza
Hi, On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 7:40 PM, robin hankin hankin.ro...@gmail.com wrote: I am trying to generate random numbers and am running into roundoff problems: RealDistribution('uniform', [1,1+1/10^16]).get_random_element()-1 This returns zero every time for me, something that is almost

Re: [sage-support] Re: Error building eclib

2012-07-26 Thread Dima Pasechnik
On Thursday, 26 July 2012 14:21:29 UTC+8, kfiz wrote: Ok, thanks guys. I switched methods and installed with the mac osx binaries. seems that I have serious issues updating my current gcc compiler. guess I'll just have to wait until apple updates xcode. this is strange. I think many

Re: [sage-support] random problem

2012-07-26 Thread kcrisman
and so on. Note that if you try to use RR (which is the same as RealField(53)) you run into the same precision/roundoff problem as you had before. Hence the need to increase the working precision. Also note that R.random_element() can only do uniform distribution, so if you were

[sage-support] Re: basic question on constant of integration when using desolve

2012-07-26 Thread kcrisman
On Thursday, July 26, 2012 6:37:56 AM UTC-4, Nasser M. Abbasi wrote: I do not know much of anything about sage. But I was using desolve on http://www.sagenb.org to compare an answer, Tata! You clearly know *something* about it, or you wouldn't have done as well as you have finding stuff

[sage-support] Re: basic question on constant of integration when using desolve

2012-07-26 Thread achrzesz
Sometimes a workaround is possible: sage: x = var('x') sage: y = function('y', x) sage: C = var('C') sage: f = desolve(diff(y,x) + y, y, ics=[0,C]); f C*e^(-x) sage: c = var('c') sage: f = desolve(diff(y,x) +c*y, y,ivar=x, ics=[0,C]); f C*e^(-c*x) On Thursday, July 26, 2012 12:37:56 PM UTC+2,

[sage-support] Pretty print with aleph.sagemath.org server

2012-07-26 Thread eliade
Hi everybody. When I use the aleph.sagemath.org server, the response is not pretty printed. Is there special setting to get the pretty print ? -- To post to this group, send email to sage-support@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to

[sage-support] Out of memory error when dividing vector by scalar

2012-07-26 Thread Kyle Schalm
I'm using sage 4.6.1 (release data 2011-01-11) on Linux. When I tried to divide a vector of ~1 elements by a scalar, it ran out of system memory and crashed. code: n = 1 v = vector([0]*n) # ok so far v2 = v/1 # kaboom I repeated this process for increasing values of n

Re: [sage-support] Re: Error building eclib

2012-07-26 Thread kfiz
I also use Xcode 3.2.6 (freshly installed) , but building always crashed when gcc 4.6.3 was going to be installed on my machine. I figured that I could install the gcc package manually, downloaded it and ran the installation...with the same result. really don't know what the problem is... Am

Re: [sage-support] Out of memory error when dividing vector by scalar

2012-07-26 Thread D. S. McNeil
After some digging -- and a fortuitous control-C at the right moment -- it looks like it's trying to construct the basis for the ambient free module. This will be a list of 10^4 vectors, each 10^4 elements long, so it's not surprising it takes a lot of memory.. adding a print statement in the

Re: [sage-support] Re: Question about sage-5.1-linux-64bit-ubuntu_8.04.4_lts-x86_64-Linux.tar.gz

2012-07-26 Thread Daniel M.
Compile sage from source in mi netbook would take soo many time. the last time i did it took about 6 hours, but unpacking a precomplied binary... its a matter of some minutes. El jueves, 26 de julio de 2012 00:25:47 UTC-5, Dima Pasechnik escribió: On Thursday, 26 July 2012 08:35:03 UTC+8,

Re: [sage-support] Problems with Pre-built sage binaries 5.1 on Debian(Testing)

2012-07-26 Thread Daniel M.
Well, The binary that worked on both my netbook and desktop is the one that has the name * sage-5.0.1-linux-64bit-ubuntu_10.04.3_lts-x86_64-Linux.tar.gz*. It's all the information i have about it. i downloaded the package may be two weeks ago. I just download it, untar at, say /home/sagemath,

Re: [sage-support] random problem

2012-07-26 Thread robin hankin
Does this help? sage: R = RealField(100) sage: R.random_element(1, 1+1/10^16) 1.745276341034 sage: R.random_element(1, 1+1/10^16) 1.899962307929 and so on. Note that if you try to use RR (which is the same as RealField(53)) you run into the same

[sage-support] Sage server problems

2012-07-26 Thread Mike OS
I had a sage server running on an imac running os 10.6. I stopped the server and tried to get it running again, and now I'm having problems. 1. I tried logging in on the imac as a user, then starting sage. I got the message appended below in the terminal window that pops up. When I tried the

[sage-support] Re: Pretty print with aleph.sagemath.org server

2012-07-26 Thread Jason Grout
On 7/26/12 10:42 AM, eliade wrote: Hi everybody. When I use the aleph.sagemath.org server, the response is not pretty printed. Is there special setting to get the pretty print ? Can you give an example of what you mean? Thanks, Jason -- To post to this group, send email to

Re: [sage-support] Re: Question about sage-5.1-linux-64bit-ubuntu_8.04.4_lts-x86_64-Linux.tar.gz

2012-07-26 Thread Dima Pasechnik
On Friday, 27 July 2012 05:20:52 UTC+8, Daniel M. wrote: Compile sage from source in mi netbook would take soo many time. the last time i did it took about 6 hours, but unpacking a precomplied binary... its a matter of some minutes. well, leave it overnight... If you have a dual-core

[sage-support] Re: Sage server problems

2012-07-26 Thread Dima Pasechnik
IMHO, Sage does not use apache at all. It runs its own webserver, on port 8000. On Friday, 27 July 2012 07:08:25 UTC+8, Mike OS wrote: I had a sage server running on an imac running os 10.6. I stopped the server and tried to get it running again, and now I'm having problems. 1. I tried

Re: [sage-support] Re: Error building eclib

2012-07-26 Thread Dima Pasechnik
On Friday, 27 July 2012 03:56:27 UTC+8, kfiz wrote: I also use Xcode 3.2.6 (freshly installed) , but building always crashed when gcc 4.6.3 was going to be installed on my machine. I figured that I could install the gcc package manually, downloaded it and ran the installation...with the