Re: Prototype of case for planed new computer SAM COUPE 2
I'm in the US at the minute, being unjustly overpaid. And probably for another couple of years. On 30 Apr 2015, at 18:25, Aleš Keprt a...@keprt.cz wrote: I think the NTSC-PAL signal compatibility differs manufacturer to manufacturer. But I wonder why do you use a NTSC display. You live outside of Europe? Or you mean NTSC like a standard 60 Hz computer monitor? From: Thomas Harte Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2015 10:18 PM To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Subject: Re: Prototype of case for planed new computer SAM COUPE 2 With further consideration I'd suggest that the hypothetical hardware LDIR-alike be optionally able to logically invert its output addresses. With suitable adjustments to the inputs, that gives you counting down as well as counting up. So you can also scroll left-to-right! That stuff all aside, does anybody know anything about the compatibility of PAL machines with modern NTSC flat screens? The one I have otherwise does an excellent job with a composite input, including the off-spec non-interlaced stuff that '80s computers put out, but I've not tried it with a 50Hz or PAL signal. Do manufacturers still bother to differentiate or have economies of scale reduced everything down to a single chip regardless? It also has component inputs but I've nothing that outputs component video and wouldn't be surprised if it's implemented in such a way as to accept only HDTV signals. Which is a roundabout way of wondering whether I'd ever be able to use a Sam 2 on this side of the Atlantic. Anyone care to speculate? I guess one of those composite/s-video/RGB to HDMI converters might be a smart investment anyway as they're probably only going to get more obscure. On 29 April 2015 at 08:09, da...@properbastard.co.uk wrote: Case looks very good. Discussion is pretty interesting. On 29.04.2015 09:34, the wub wrote: What a great project, your Sam Coupe 2 looks really amazing. I particularly like the spherical feet! And the Lynx did have at least one good game: Super Skweek! :) - Mgr. Aleš Keprt, Ph.D. private: a...@keprt.cz, www.keprt.cz office: Moravian University College / Moravská vysoká škola Olomouc, ales.ke...@mvso.cz
Re: Prototype of case for planed new computer SAM COUPE 2
What a great project, your Sam Coupe 2 looks really amazing. I particularly like the spherical feet! And the Lynx did have at least one good game: Super Skweek! :)
Re: Prototype of case for planed new computer SAM COUPE 2
Yeah, it was years ahead of its time. The Gameboy Advance was a decade later and still primarily for hardware sprites on tile maps. But I'd still much rather see, say, a simple three-register thing: push source address, push destination address, push length and it raises the halt line and then copies that many bytes from source to destination at the maximum rate (allowing for screen refresh). That's probably even simpler to implement than hardware sprites, being just the innermost loop. The CPU still has to do quite a lot but not too much, I think. Anyway, neither option is really something I consider particularly essential or even necessarily useful for a 2015 Sam 2. Just things we wish had been in the 1989 Sam 1. On Tuesday, 28 April 2015, Aleš Keprt a...@keprt.cz wrote: Technically you are correct, but I think you cannot compare the professional product of top class technology company like Atari with amateur home made product like this Sam Coupe 2. I think even the original Sam Coupe was rather a home made product than a professional computer hardware on the technology level possible in the 1980's. -Původní zpráva- From: Thomas Harte Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2015 1:55 PM To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Subject: Re: Prototype of case for planed new computer SAM COUPE 2 True, but both the Lynx and the Sam came out in the same year and the Sam was the more expensive of the two. The Lynx gets away with it, I think, because it's pushing only an 8kb frame buffer — 160x102 in 4bpp. So divide all your mental calculations by three. ... though, of course, I wouldn't advocate it if fun games are your real objective. The Lynx's design is what Needle and Mical did after the Amiga and before the 3DO so it's from that lineage of design. The graphics hardware is like an Amiga plus in many ways, though a 6502 was all they could fit into the mobile transistor budget. On 28 Apr 2015, at 07:22, Aleš Keprt a...@keprt.cz wrote: AKAIK the hardware sprites are much simpler to implement. I don't know Lynx, but the blitter like you described needs uncomparably faster hardware than a set of hardware sprites. A. -Původní zpráva- From: Thomas Harte Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2015 1:12 PM To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Subject: Re: Prototype of case for planed new computer SAM COUPE 2 I'm inclined to think the Atari Lynx is the pinnacle of '80s graphics chipsets: just a frame buffer and a scaling blitter. No need for all the special-case sprites/backgrounds nonsense. On 28 Apr 2015, at 06:32, Leslie Anderson lezander...@gmail.com wrote: In an ideal world you could have : 32/8 full colour hardware sprites ...16x16 or 8x8 ? with sprite collision detection ? Hardware scroll vertical/horizontal Increase in Colour palette Hardware line interrupts (programmable) to switch palette at a fixed number of scan lines ? No need for CPU intervention. Even a second Video processor to give superposition, Superimposed video
Re: Prototype of case for planed new computer SAM COUPE 2
True, but both the Lynx and the Sam came out in the same year and the Sam was the more expensive of the two. The Lynx gets away with it, I think, because it's pushing only an 8kb frame buffer — 160x102 in 4bpp. So divide all your mental calculations by three. ... though, of course, I wouldn't advocate it if fun games are your real objective. The Lynx's design is what Needle and Mical did after the Amiga and before the 3DO so it's from that lineage of design. The graphics hardware is like an Amiga plus in many ways, though a 6502 was all they could fit into the mobile transistor budget. On 28 Apr 2015, at 07:22, Aleš Keprt a...@keprt.cz wrote: AKAIK the hardware sprites are much simpler to implement. I don't know Lynx, but the blitter like you described needs uncomparably faster hardware than a set of hardware sprites. A. -Původní zpráva- From: Thomas Harte Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2015 1:12 PM To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Subject: Re: Prototype of case for planed new computer SAM COUPE 2 I'm inclined to think the Atari Lynx is the pinnacle of '80s graphics chipsets: just a frame buffer and a scaling blitter. No need for all the special-case sprites/backgrounds nonsense. On 28 Apr 2015, at 06:32, Leslie Anderson lezander...@gmail.com wrote: In an ideal world you could have : 32/8 full colour hardware sprites ...16x16 or 8x8 ? with sprite collision detection ? Hardware scroll vertical/horizontal Increase in Colour palette Hardware line interrupts (programmable) to switch palette at a fixed number of scan lines ? No need for CPU intervention. Even a second Video processor to give superposition, Superimposed video. This could be something like a V9938/V9958. though this obviously would mean quite a bit of extra circuitry, but the resulting graphics would be superb, probably surpassing a Commodore AMIGA. Though this all boils down to someone with the time, brains and means to make it happen ! On 28 April 2015 at 09:28, Andrew Park alp...@ntlworld.com wrote: I think hardware sprites would be great, increase in colour palette would be beneficial as long as more colours on screen at once was introduced but given the size of the screen as standard is 24k more colours on screen would mean more memory unless line interrupts were used then this would have speed issues on the cpu, so how could this be used? From: owner-sam-us...@nvg.ntnu.no [mailto:owner-sam-us...@nvg.ntnu.no] On Behalf Of Leszek Chmielewski Sent: 27 April 2015 22:27 To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Subject: Re: Prototype of case for planed new computer SAM COUPE 2 I agree. The original (crowdfunding) plans for the new Golden ASIC's involved hardware sprites and palette expansion to 4096, which is enough for most needs, and this as upgrade for the original SAM 1. LCD On Mon, Apr 27, 2015 at 11:20 PM, Aleš Keprt a...@keprt.cz wrote: I think hardware sprites would be more beneficial than so many colors. If I look to old game cabinets from 80’s, many of them have got excellent games with simple slow CPU’s... but always with hardware sprites= - Mgr. Aleš Keprt, Ph.D. private: a...@keprt.cz, www.keprt.cz office: Moravian University College / Moravská vysoká škola Olomouc, ales.ke...@mvso.cz
Re: Prototype of case for planed new computer SAM COUPE 2
AKAIK the hardware sprites are much simpler to implement. I don't know Lynx, but the blitter like you described needs uncomparably faster hardware than a set of hardware sprites. A. -Původní zpráva- From: Thomas Harte Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2015 1:12 PM To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Subject: Re: Prototype of case for planed new computer SAM COUPE 2 I'm inclined to think the Atari Lynx is the pinnacle of '80s graphics chipsets: just a frame buffer and a scaling blitter. No need for all the special-case sprites/backgrounds nonsense. On 28 Apr 2015, at 06:32, Leslie Anderson lezander...@gmail.com wrote: In an ideal world you could have : 32/8 full colour hardware sprites ...16x16 or 8x8 ? with sprite collision detection ? Hardware scroll vertical/horizontal Increase in Colour palette Hardware line interrupts (programmable) to switch palette at a fixed number of scan lines ? No need for CPU intervention. Even a second Video processor to give superposition, Superimposed video. This could be something like a V9938/V9958. though this obviously would mean quite a bit of extra circuitry, but the resulting graphics would be superb, probably surpassing a Commodore AMIGA. Though this all boils down to someone with the time, brains and means to make it happen ! On 28 April 2015 at 09:28, Andrew Park alp...@ntlworld.com wrote: I think hardware sprites would be great, increase in colour palette would be beneficial as long as more colours on screen at once was introduced but given the size of the screen as standard is 24k more colours on screen would mean more memory unless line interrupts were used then this would have speed issues on the cpu, so how could this be used? From: owner-sam-us...@nvg.ntnu.no [mailto:owner-sam-us...@nvg.ntnu.no] On Behalf Of Leszek Chmielewski Sent: 27 April 2015 22:27 To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Subject: Re: Prototype of case for planed new computer SAM COUPE 2 I agree. The original (crowdfunding) plans for the new Golden ASIC's involved hardware sprites and palette expansion to 4096, which is enough for most needs, and this as upgrade for the original SAM 1. LCD On Mon, Apr 27, 2015 at 11:20 PM, Aleš Keprt a...@keprt.cz wrote: I think hardware sprites would be more beneficial than so many colors. If I look to old game cabinets from 80’s, many of them have got excellent games with simple slow CPU’s... but always with hardware sprites= - Mgr. Aleš Keprt, Ph.D. private: a...@keprt.cz, www.keprt.cz office: Moravian University College / Moravská vysoká škola Olomouc, ales.ke...@mvso.cz
Re: Prototype of case for planed new computer SAM COUPE 2
It's based on CPLD chip, not FPGA. Then will support TXT mode in next screen layer with possibility use transparent color. Theoretically can CPU make sprites/graphic from separate characters (graphic blocks 8x8 pixels, smaller or bigger...) Background can be standard SAM screen in mode 3 or 4. Now I must finish first beta version of CPLD firmware for testing and in next step add more features/expansions. VELESOFT - Original Message - From: Leslie Anderson To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2015 12:32 PM Subject: Re: Prototype of case for planed new computer SAM COUPE 2 In an ideal world you could have : 32/8 full colour hardware sprites ...16x16 or 8x8 ? with sprite collision detection ? Hardware scroll vertical/horizontal Increase in Colour palette Hardware line interrupts (programmable) to switch palette at a fixed number of scan lines ? No need for CPU intervention. Even a second Video processor to give superposition, Superimposed video. This could be something like a V9938/V9958. though this obviously would mean quite a bit of extra circuitry, but the resulting graphics would be superb, probably surpassing a Commodore AMIGA. Though this all boils down to someone with the time, brains and means to make it happen ! On 28 April 2015 at 09:28, Andrew Park alp...@ntlworld.com wrote: I think hardware sprites would be great, increase in colour palette would be beneficial as long as more colours on screen at once was introduced but given the size of the screen as standard is 24k more colours on screen would mean more memory unless line interrupts were used then this would have speed issues on the cpu, so how could this be used? From: owner-sam-us...@nvg.ntnu.no [mailto:owner-sam-us...@nvg.ntnu.no] On Behalf Of Leszek Chmielewski Sent: 27 April 2015 22:27 To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Subject: Re: Prototype of case for planed new computer SAM COUPE 2 I agree. The original (crowdfunding) plans for the new Golden ASIC's involved hardware sprites and palette expansion to 4096, which is enough for most needs, and this as upgrade for the original SAM 1. LCD On Mon, Apr 27, 2015 at 11:20 PM, Aleš Keprt a...@keprt.cz wrote: I think hardware sprites would be more beneficial than so many colors. If I look to old game cabinets from 80’s, many of them have got excellent games with simple slow CPU’s... but always with hardware sprites. A. From: VELESOFT Sent: Saturday, April 25, 2015 8:34 AM To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Subject: Re: Prototype of case for planed new computer SAM COUPE 2 No hardware scroll, no sprites. But text mode with transparent color(s). Theoretically may palete contain up to 65536 colors. VELESOFT - Original Message - From: retr...@gmail.com To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Sent: Saturday, April 25, 2015 2:46 AM Subject: Re: Prototype of case for planed new computer SAM COUPE 2 Velesoft, you say, the SAM2 will have 256 colours at once. Does this mean, the colour palette is enhanced to 512 or even 4096 colours? Will it have hardware scrolling or hardware sprites too? Greetings LCD Originalmitteilung Von:VELESOFT veles...@seznam.cz Gesendet:Fri, 24 Apr 2015 18:09:58 +0200 An:sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Betreff:Re: Prototype of case for planed new computer SAM COUPE 2 - Original Message - From: Chmielewski retr...@gmail.com To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Sent: Friday, April 24, 2015 12:01 AM Subject: Re: Prototype of case for planed new computer SAM COUPE 2 Case on my picture is only one of more possible versions. I plan also other cases. Main board will small (mini itx format) and will support different additional boards with connectors. See here: http://velesoft.speccy.cz/other/SAMCLONE_PANEL2.JPG Thats really cool. Does this mean, it will be possible to use ZX Spectrum interfaces directly? Yes. You can connect SAM COUPE interfaces and ZX interfaces. Will possible use also similar board for install to original SAM COUPE case, different version to MINI ITX case and different to my cases. SAM 2 is not only clone. Enable good compatibility with ZX128 and faster graphic operations, rom reflashing, rom emulation... This project is primarily maked for me and my friends, but will possible make more pieces. I'm your friend, please! I want one or two of these. You said, it will have Text mode. Can the Text characters be redefined? Which other graphics modes are planed? Text modes will usable in color modes 16c/pixel and in hi-res mode(also color pixels). Yes, font will in ram. New graphic mode will 256x192/256 colors each pixel and may be also 512x192/256c. Big
Re: Prototype of case for planed new computer SAM COUPE 2
I agree. The original (crowdfunding) plans for the new Golden ASIC's involved hardware sprites and palette expansion to 4096, which is enough for most needs, and this as upgrade for the original SAM 1. LCD On Mon, Apr 27, 2015 at 11:20 PM, Aleš Keprt a...@keprt.cz wrote: I think hardware sprites would be more beneficial than so many colors. If I look to old game cabinets from 80’s, many of them have got excellent games with simple slow CPU’s... but always with hardware sprites. A. *From:* VELESOFT veles...@seznam.cz *Sent:* Saturday, April 25, 2015 8:34 AM *To:* sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no *Subject:* Re: Prototype of case for planed new computer SAM COUPE 2 No hardware scroll, no sprites. But text mode with transparent color(s). Theoretically may palete contain up to 65536 colors. VELESOFT - Original Message - *From:* retr...@gmail.com *To:* sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no *Sent:* Saturday, April 25, 2015 2:46 AM *Subject:* Re: Prototype of case for planed new computer SAM COUPE 2 Velesoft, you say, the SAM2 will have 256 colours at once. Does this mean, the colour palette is enhanced to 512 or even 4096 colours? Will it have hardware scrolling or hardware sprites too? Greetings LCD Originalmitteilung Von:VELESOFT veles...@seznam.cz Gesendet:Fri, 24 Apr 2015 18:09:58 +0200 An:sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Betreff:Re: Prototype of case for planed new computer SAM COUPE 2 - Original Message - From: Chmielewski retr...@gmail.com To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Sent: Friday, April 24, 2015 12:01 AM Subject: Re: Prototype of case for planed new computer SAM COUPE 2 Case on my picture is only one of more possible versions. I plan also other cases. Main board will small (mini itx format) and will support different additional boards with connectors. See here: http://velesoft.speccy.cz/other/SAMCLONE_PANEL2.JPG Thats really cool. Does this mean, it will be possible to use ZX Spectrum interfaces directly? Yes. You can connect SAM COUPE interfaces and ZX interfaces. Will possible use also similar board for install to original SAM COUPE case, different version to MINI ITX case and different to my cases. SAM 2 is not only clone. Enable good compatibility with ZX128 and faster graphic operations, rom reflashing, rom emulation... This project is primarily maked for me and my friends, but will possible make more pieces. I'm your friend, please! I want one or two of these. You said, it will have Text mode. Can the Text characters be redefined? Which other graphics modes are planed? Text modes will usable in color modes 16c/pixel and in hi-res mode(also color pixels). Yes, font will in ram. New graphic mode will 256x192/256 colors each pixel and may be also 512x192/256c. Big part of USB/PS2 keyboards have ghosting effect and not support some keys combinations in ZX games. For example problems with SINCLAIR joysticks, QWERT, CURSORS+0, QAOP+SPACE, etc... Laptop keyboard contain only membrane, but is possible with software filter eliminate ghosting effect. And TOSHIBA SATELLITE laptop keyboards support most popular keys combinations in ZX games. Info about PC keyboard ghosting test: http://speccy.pl/forum/index.php/topic,1221.msg14678.html#msg14678 High priority is for me keyboard with usable keys combinations in games. Laptop keyboard is small, cheap and is possible buy each type more years after release. SAM 2 use universal adapter for connect any laptop keyboard and will use define keys after first connect new keyboard (any membrane). Each user can define own keys layout. Excellent, but I hope, you can use also original SAM membranes in a SAM case. Yes. All membranes will usable. ZX membrane, +2A/+3 membrane, laptom keyboards, sam coupe membrane, membrane from any PS/2 or USB keyboards... Keyboard module use software autodetection on all pins of connected membrane. If you connect any new membrane, must be call software test which test membrane state during pressing key by key. After detect all states save new configuration for your keyboard. Membrane is under software controll thanks to second CPU Z80. All software for second CPU will be in assembler Z80 and rewritable direct from computer :-) LCD - Original Message - From: Aleš Keprt a...@keprt.cz To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2015 8:18 PM Subject: Re: Prototype of case for planed new computer SAM COUPE 2 Sorry, I am pessimistic here. I don't like this design. I don't like the look of the original Sam Coupe either, why the hell would anybody want to clone it? In my opinion it's weird, it's a waste of effort and skills. And why 3.5 floppy diskettes? Another weird thing here. It's 2014, not 1984! I would definitely prefer a standard PC keyboard and a computer in a separate box, with flash memory cards (of any easily implementable type) instead of the current design. Best
Re: Prototype of case for planed new computer SAM COUPE 2
I think hardware sprites would be more beneficial than so many colors. If I look to old game cabinets from 80’s, many of them have got excellent games with simple slow CPU’s... but always with hardware sprites. A. From: VELESOFT Sent: Saturday, April 25, 2015 8:34 AM To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Subject: Re: Prototype of case for planed new computer SAM COUPE 2 No hardware scroll, no sprites. But text mode with transparent color(s). Theoretically may palete contain up to 65536 colors. VELESOFT - Original Message - From: retr...@gmail.com To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Sent: Saturday, April 25, 2015 2:46 AM Subject: Re: Prototype of case for planed new computer SAM COUPE 2 Velesoft, you say, the SAM2 will have 256 colours at once. Does this mean, the colour palette is enhanced to 512 or even 4096 colours? Will it have hardware scrolling or hardware sprites too? Greetings LCD Originalmitteilung Von:VELESOFT veles...@seznam.cz Gesendet:Fri, 24 Apr 2015 18:09:58 +0200 An:sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Betreff:Re: Prototype of case for planed new computer SAM COUPE 2 - Original Message - From: Chmielewski retr...@gmail.com To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Sent: Friday, April 24, 2015 12:01 AM Subject: Re: Prototype of case for planed new computer SAM COUPE 2 Case on my picture is only one of more possible versions. I plan also other cases. Main board will small (mini itx format) and will support different additional boards with connectors. See here: http://velesoft.speccy.cz/other/SAMCLONE_PANEL2.JPG Thats really cool. Does this mean, it will be possible to use ZX Spectrum interfaces directly? Yes. You can connect SAM COUPE interfaces and ZX interfaces. Will possible use also similar board for install to original SAM COUPE case, different version to MINI ITX case and different to my cases. SAM 2 is not only clone. Enable good compatibility with ZX128 and faster graphic operations, rom reflashing, rom emulation... This project is primarily maked for me and my friends, but will possible make more pieces. I'm your friend, please! I want one or two of these. You said, it will have Text mode. Can the Text characters be redefined? Which other graphics modes are planed? Text modes will usable in color modes 16c/pixel and in hi-res mode(also color pixels). Yes, font will in ram. New graphic mode will 256x192/256 colors each pixel and may be also 512x192/256c. Big part of USB/PS2 keyboards have ghosting effect and not support some keys combinations in ZX games. For example problems with SINCLAIR joysticks, QWERT, CURSORS+0, QAOP+SPACE, etc... Laptop keyboard contain only membrane, but is possible with software filter eliminate ghosting effect. And TOSHIBA SATELLITE laptop keyboards support most popular keys combinations in ZX games. Info about PC keyboard ghosting test: http://speccy.pl/forum/index.php/topic,1221.msg14678.html#msg14678 High priority is for me keyboard with usable keys combinations in games. Laptop keyboard is small, cheap and is possible buy each type more years after release. SAM 2 use universal adapter for connect any laptop keyboard and will use define keys after first connect new keyboard (any membrane). Each user can define own keys layout. Excellent, but I hope, you can use also original SAM membranes in a SAM case. Yes. All membranes will usable. ZX membrane, +2A/+3 membrane, laptom keyboards, sam coupe membrane, membrane from any PS/2 or USB keyboards... Keyboard module use software autodetection on all pins of connected membrane. If you connect any new membrane, must be call software test which test membrane state during pressing key by key. After detect all states save new configuration for your keyboard. Membrane is under software controll thanks to second CPU Z80. All software for second CPU will be in assembler Z80 and rewritable direct from computer :-) LCD - Original Message - From: Aleš Keprt a...@keprt.cz To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2015 8:18 PM Subject: Re: Prototype of case for planed new computer SAM COUPE 2 Sorry, I am pessimistic here. I don't like this design. I don't like the look of the original Sam Coupe either, why the hell would anybody want to clone it? In my opinion it's weird, it's a waste of effort and skills. And why 3.5 floppy diskettes? Another weird thing here. It's 2014, not 1984! I would definitely prefer a standard PC keyboard and a computer in a separate box, with flash memory cards (of any easily implementable type) instead of the current design. Best regards, Aley -Původní zpráva- From: VELESOFT Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2015 11:10 PM To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Subject: Re: Prototype of case for planed new computer SAM COUPE 2 New computer
Re: Prototype of case for planed new computer SAM COUPE 2
No hardware scroll, no sprites. But text mode with transparent color(s). Theoretically may palete contain up to 65536 colors. VELESOFT - Original Message - From: retr...@gmail.com To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Sent: Saturday, April 25, 2015 2:46 AM Subject: Re: Prototype of case for planed new computer SAM COUPE 2 Velesoft, you say, the SAM2 will have 256 colours at once. Does this mean, the colour palette is enhanced to 512 or even 4096 colours? Will it have hardware scrolling or hardware sprites too? Greetings LCD Originalmitteilung Von:VELESOFT veles...@seznam.cz Gesendet:Fri, 24 Apr 2015 18:09:58 +0200 An:sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Betreff:Re: Prototype of case for planed new computer SAM COUPE 2 - Original Message - From: Chmielewski retr...@gmail.com To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Sent: Friday, April 24, 2015 12:01 AM Subject: Re: Prototype of case for planed new computer SAM COUPE 2 Case on my picture is only one of more possible versions. I plan also other cases. Main board will small (mini itx format) and will support different additional boards with connectors. See here: http://velesoft.speccy.cz/other/SAMCLONE_PANEL2.JPG Thats really cool. Does this mean, it will be possible to use ZX Spectrum interfaces directly? Yes. You can connect SAM COUPE interfaces and ZX interfaces. Will possible use also similar board for install to original SAM COUPE case, different version to MINI ITX case and different to my cases. SAM 2 is not only clone. Enable good compatibility with ZX128 and faster graphic operations, rom reflashing, rom emulation... This project is primarily maked for me and my friends, but will possible make more pieces. I'm your friend, please! I want one or two of these. You said, it will have Text mode. Can the Text characters be redefined? Which other graphics modes are planed? Text modes will usable in color modes 16c/pixel and in hi-res mode(also color pixels). Yes, font will in ram. New graphic mode will 256x192/256 colors each pixel and may be also 512x192/256c. Big part of USB/PS2 keyboards have ghosting effect and not support some keys combinations in ZX games. For example problems with SINCLAIR joysticks, QWERT, CURSORS+0, QAOP+SPACE, etc... Laptop keyboard contain only membrane, but is possible with software filter eliminate ghosting effect. And TOSHIBA SATELLITE laptop keyboards support most popular keys combinations in ZX games. Info about PC keyboard ghosting test: http://speccy.pl/forum/index.php/topic,1221.msg14678.html#msg14678 High priority is for me keyboard with usable keys combinations in games. Laptop keyboard is small, cheap and is possible buy each type more years after release. SAM 2 use universal adapter for connect any laptop keyboard and will use define keys after first connect new keyboard (any membrane). Each user can define own keys layout. Excellent, but I hope, you can use also original SAM membranes in a SAM case. Yes. All membranes will usable. ZX membrane, +2A/+3 membrane, laptom keyboards, sam coupe membrane, membrane from any PS/2 or USB keyboards... Keyboard module use software autodetection on all pins of connected membrane. If you connect any new membrane, must be call software test which test membrane state during pressing key by key. After detect all states save new configuration for your keyboard. Membrane is under software controll thanks to second CPU Z80. All software for second CPU will be in assembler Z80 and rewritable direct from computer :-) LCD - Original Message - From: Aleš Keprt a...@keprt.cz To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2015 8:18 PM Subject: Re: Prototype of case for planed new computer SAM COUPE 2 Sorry, I am pessimistic here. I don't like this design. I don't like the look of the original Sam Coupe either, why the hell would anybody want to clone it? In my opinion it's weird, it's a waste of effort and skills. And why 3.5 floppy diskettes? Another weird thing here. It's 2014, not 1984! I would definitely prefer a standard PC keyboard and a computer in a separate box, with flash memory cards (of any easily implementable type) instead of the current design. Best regards, Aley -Původní zpráva- From: VELESOFT Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2015 11:10 PM To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Subject: Re: Prototype of case for planed new computer SAM COUPE 2 New computer compatible with sam coupe and ZX128. Contain real CPU Zilog Z80, and CPLD chip instead old ASIC. Real SAA1099 and AY chip,... Don't contain any modern PIC,ARM. Price is unknown, all is in development. VELESOFT - Original Message - From: Thomas Harte tomh.retros...@gmail.com To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2015 11:01
Re: Prototype of case for planed new computer SAM COUPE 2
Velesoft, you say, the SAM2 will have 256 colours at once. Does this mean, the colour palette is enhanced to 512 or even 4096 colours? Will it have hardware scrolling or hardware sprites too? Greetings LCD Originalmitteilung Von:VELESOFT veles...@seznam.cz Gesendet:Fri, 24 Apr 2015 18:09:58 +0200 An:sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Betreff:Re: Prototype of case for planed new computer SAM COUPE 2 - Original Message - From: Chmielewski retr...@gmail.com To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Sent: Friday, April 24, 2015 12:01 AM Subject: Re: Prototype of case for planed new computer SAM COUPE 2 Case on my picture is only one of more possible versions. I plan also other cases. Main board will small (mini itx format) and will support different additional boards with connectors. See here: http://velesoft.speccy.cz/other/SAMCLONE_PANEL2.JPG Thats really cool. Does this mean, it will be possible to use ZX Spectrum interfaces directly? Yes. You can connect SAM COUPE interfaces and ZX interfaces. Will possible use also similar board for install to original SAM COUPE case, different version to MINI ITX case and different to my cases. SAM 2 is not only clone. Enable good compatibility with ZX128 and faster graphic operations, rom reflashing, rom emulation... This project is primarily maked for me and my friends, but will possible make more pieces. I'm your friend, please! I want one or two of these. You said, it will have Text mode. Can the Text characters be redefined? Which other graphics modes are planed? Text modes will usable in color modes 16c/pixel and in hi-res mode(also color pixels). Yes, font will in ram. New graphic mode will 256x192/256 colors each pixel and may be also 512x192/256c. Big part of USB/PS2 keyboards have ghosting effect and not support some keys combinations in ZX games. For example problems with SINCLAIR joysticks, QWERT, CURSORS+0, QAOP+SPACE, etc... Laptop keyboard contain only membrane, but is possible with software filter eliminate ghosting effect. And TOSHIBA SATELLITE laptop keyboards support most popular keys combinations in ZX games. Info about PC keyboard ghosting test: http://speccy.pl/forum/index.php/topic,1221.msg14678.html#msg14678 High priority is for me keyboard with usable keys combinations in games. Laptop keyboard is small, cheap and is possible buy each type more years after release. SAM 2 use universal adapter for connect any laptop keyboard and will use define keys after first connect new keyboard (any membrane). Each user can define own keys layout. Excellent, but I hope, you can use also original SAM membranes in a SAM case. Yes. All membranes will usable. ZX membrane, +2A/+3 membrane, laptom keyboards, sam coupe membrane, membrane from any PS/2 or USB keyboards... Keyboard module use software autodetection on all pins of connected membrane. If you connect any new membrane, must be call software test which test membrane state during pressing key by key. After detect all states save new configuration for your keyboard. Membrane is under software controll thanks to second CPU Z80. All software for second CPU will be in assembler Z80 and rewritable direct from computer :-) LCD - Original Message - From: Aleš Keprt a...@keprt.cz To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2015 8:18 PM Subject: Re: Prototype of case for planed new computer SAM COUPE 2 Sorry, I am pessimistic here. I don't like this design. I don't like the look of the original Sam Coupe either, why the hell would anybody want to clone it? In my opinion it's weird, it's a waste of effort and skills. And why 3.5 floppy diskettes? Another weird thing here. It's 2014, not 1984! I would definitely prefer a standard PC keyboard and a computer in a separate box, with flash memory cards (of any easily implementable type) instead of the current design. Best regards, Aley -Původní zpráva- From: VELESOFT Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2015 11:10 PM To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Subject: Re: Prototype of case for planed new computer SAM COUPE 2 New computer compatible with sam coupe and ZX128. Contain real CPU Zilog Z80, and CPLD chip instead old ASIC. Real SAA1099 and AY chip,... Don't contain any modern PIC,ARM. Price is unknown, all is in development. VELESOFT - Original Message - From: Thomas Harte tomh.retros...@gmail.com To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2015 11:01 PM Subject: Re: Prototype of case for planed new computer SAM COUPE 2 It reflects poorly on me but Spanish isn't one of my languages. What sort of machine is it? A genuine hardware compatible or just a Pi-or-whatever in a suitable case? How much? When? In what form? Very exciting. On 22 Apr 2015, at 14:59, Andrew Park alp...@ntlworld.com wrote: Interested to see some more information on this, will it be a DIY sam or produced? Andy From: owner-sam-us...@nvg.ntnu.no [mailto:owner-sam-us
Re: Prototype of case for planed new computer SAM COUPE 2
- Original Message - From: Chmielewski retr...@gmail.com To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Sent: Friday, April 24, 2015 12:01 AM Subject: Re: Prototype of case for planed new computer SAM COUPE 2 Case on my picture is only one of more possible versions. I plan also other cases. Main board will small (mini itx format) and will support different additional boards with connectors. See here: http://velesoft.speccy.cz/other/SAMCLONE_PANEL2.JPG Thats really cool. Does this mean, it will be possible to use ZX Spectrum interfaces directly? Yes. You can connect SAM COUPE interfaces and ZX interfaces. Will possible use also similar board for install to original SAM COUPE case, different version to MINI ITX case and different to my cases. SAM 2 is not only clone. Enable good compatibility with ZX128 and faster graphic operations, rom reflashing, rom emulation... This project is primarily maked for me and my friends, but will possible make more pieces. I'm your friend, please! I want one or two of these. You said, it will have Text mode. Can the Text characters be redefined? Which other graphics modes are planed? Text modes will usable in color modes 16c/pixel and in hi-res mode(also color pixels). Yes, font will in ram. New graphic mode will 256x192/256 colors each pixel and may be also 512x192/256c. Big part of USB/PS2 keyboards have ghosting effect and not support some keys combinations in ZX games. For example problems with SINCLAIR joysticks, QWERT, CURSORS+0, QAOP+SPACE, etc... Laptop keyboard contain only membrane, but is possible with software filter eliminate ghosting effect. And TOSHIBA SATELLITE laptop keyboards support most popular keys combinations in ZX games. Info about PC keyboard ghosting test: http://speccy.pl/forum/index.php/topic,1221.msg14678.html#msg14678 High priority is for me keyboard with usable keys combinations in games. Laptop keyboard is small, cheap and is possible buy each type more years after release. SAM 2 use universal adapter for connect any laptop keyboard and will use define keys after first connect new keyboard (any membrane). Each user can define own keys layout. Excellent, but I hope, you can use also original SAM membranes in a SAM case. Yes. All membranes will usable. ZX membrane, +2A/+3 membrane, laptom keyboards, sam coupe membrane, membrane from any PS/2 or USB keyboards... Keyboard module use software autodetection on all pins of connected membrane. If you connect any new membrane, must be call software test which test membrane state during pressing key by key. After detect all states save new configuration for your keyboard. Membrane is under software controll thanks to second CPU Z80. All software for second CPU will be in assembler Z80 and rewritable direct from computer :-) LCD - Original Message - From: Aleš Keprt a...@keprt.cz To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2015 8:18 PM Subject: Re: Prototype of case for planed new computer SAM COUPE 2 Sorry, I am pessimistic here. I don't like this design. I don't like the look of the original Sam Coupe either, why the hell would anybody want to clone it? In my opinion it's weird, it's a waste of effort and skills. And why 3.5 floppy diskettes? Another weird thing here. It's 2014, not 1984! I would definitely prefer a standard PC keyboard and a computer in a separate box, with flash memory cards (of any easily implementable type) instead of the current design. Best regards, Aley -Původní zpráva- From: VELESOFT Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2015 11:10 PM To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Subject: Re: Prototype of case for planed new computer SAM COUPE 2 New computer compatible with sam coupe and ZX128. Contain real CPU Zilog Z80, and CPLD chip instead old ASIC. Real SAA1099 and AY chip,... Don't contain any modern PIC,ARM. Price is unknown, all is in development. VELESOFT - Original Message - From: Thomas Harte tomh.retros...@gmail.com To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2015 11:01 PM Subject: Re: Prototype of case for planed new computer SAM COUPE 2 It reflects poorly on me but Spanish isn't one of my languages. What sort of machine is it? A genuine hardware compatible or just a Pi-or-whatever in a suitable case? How much? When? In what form? Very exciting. On 22 Apr 2015, at 14:59, Andrew Park alp...@ntlworld.com wrote: Interested to see some more information on this, will it be a DIY sam or produced? Andy From: owner-sam-us...@nvg.ntnu.no [mailto:owner-sam-us...@nvg.ntnu.no] On Behalf Of Kurt K Sent: 22 April 2015 17:34 To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Subject: Re: Prototype of case for planed new computer SAM COUPE 2 Where do we find more information? I'd love to get one. I'll have to look closer on Velesoft's website. On Apr 22, 2015, at 10:50 AM, Leszek Chmielewski retr...@gmail.com wrote: How much will it cost? On Wed, Apr 22, 2015 at 5:29 PM, VELESOFT veles...@seznam.cz wrote: It's first version of case for planed new computer
Re: Prototype of case for planed new computer SAM COUPE 2
For it is better RaspberryPi with SIM COUPE emulator. Small and cheap and with more features. :-) All clones are only for fans. Case on my picture is only one of more possible versions. I plan also other cases. Main board will small (mini itx format) and will support different additional boards with connectors. See here: http://velesoft.speccy.cz/other/SAMCLONE_PANEL2.JPG Will possible use also similar board for install to original SAM COUPE case, different version to MINI ITX case and different to my cases. SAM 2 is not only clone. Enable good compatibility with ZX128 and faster graphic operations, rom reflashing, rom emulation... This project is primarily maked for me and my friends, but will possible make more pieces. Real FDD is used only with this my case. SAM 2 can be used also as ZX compatible computer but with all SAM COUPE features as bonus :-) Case will support SD card (in ZX mode compatible with DIVMMC). Big part of USB/PS2 keyboards have ghosting effect and not support some keys combinations in ZX games. For example problems with SINCLAIR joysticks, QWERT, CURSORS+0, QAOP+SPACE, etc... Laptop keyboard contain only membrane, but is possible with software filter eliminate ghosting effect. And TOSHIBA SATELLITE laptop keyboards support most popular keys combinations in ZX games. Info about PC keyboard ghosting test: http://speccy.pl/forum/index.php/topic,1221.msg14678.html#msg14678 High priority is for me keyboard with usable keys combinations in games. Laptop keyboard is small, cheap and is possible buy each type more years after release. SAM 2 use universal adapter for connect any laptop keyboard and will use define keys after first connect new keyboard (any membrane). Each user can define own keys layout. VELESOFT - Original Message - From: Aleš Keprt a...@keprt.cz To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2015 8:18 PM Subject: Re: Prototype of case for planed new computer SAM COUPE 2 Sorry, I am pessimistic here. I don't like this design. I don't like the look of the original Sam Coupe either, why the hell would anybody want to clone it? In my opinion it's weird, it's a waste of effort and skills. And why 3.5 floppy diskettes? Another weird thing here. It's 2014, not 1984! I would definitely prefer a standard PC keyboard and a computer in a separate box, with flash memory cards (of any easily implementable type) instead of the current design. Best regards, Aley -Původní zpráva- From: VELESOFT Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2015 11:10 PM To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Subject: Re: Prototype of case for planed new computer SAM COUPE 2 New computer compatible with sam coupe and ZX128. Contain real CPU Zilog Z80, and CPLD chip instead old ASIC. Real SAA1099 and AY chip,... Don't contain any modern PIC,ARM. Price is unknown, all is in development. VELESOFT - Original Message - From: Thomas Harte tomh.retros...@gmail.com To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2015 11:01 PM Subject: Re: Prototype of case for planed new computer SAM COUPE 2 It reflects poorly on me but Spanish isn't one of my languages. What sort of machine is it? A genuine hardware compatible or just a Pi-or-whatever in a suitable case? How much? When? In what form? Very exciting. On 22 Apr 2015, at 14:59, Andrew Park alp...@ntlworld.com wrote: Interested to see some more information on this, will it be a DIY sam or produced? Andy From: owner-sam-us...@nvg.ntnu.no [mailto:owner-sam-us...@nvg.ntnu.no] On Behalf Of Kurt K Sent: 22 April 2015 17:34 To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Subject: Re: Prototype of case for planed new computer SAM COUPE 2 Where do we find more information? I'd love to get one. I'll have to look closer on Velesoft's website. On Apr 22, 2015, at 10:50 AM, Leszek Chmielewski retr...@gmail.com wrote: How much will it cost? On Wed, Apr 22, 2015 at 5:29 PM, VELESOFT veles...@seznam.cz wrote: It's first version of case for planed new computer SAM COUPE 2: http://velesoft.speccy.cz/other/SAMCASE_6E.JPG http://velesoft.speccy.cz/other/SAMCASE_6A.JPG http://velesoft.speccy.cz/other/SAMCASE_6D.JPG http://velesoft.speccy.cz/other/SAMCASE_6B.JPG http://velesoft.speccy.cz/other/SAMCASE_6C.JPG http://velesoft.speccy.cz/other/SAMCASE_6G.JPG http://velesoft.speccy.cz/other/SAMCASE_6H.JPG VELESOFT --- Tato zpráva byla zkontrolována na viry programem Avast Antiviru --- Tato zpráva byla zkontrolována na viry programem Avast Antivirus. http://www.avast.com - Mgr. Aleš Keprt, Ph.D. private: a...@keprt.cz, www.keprt.cz office: Moravian University College / Moravská vysoká škola Olomouc, ales.ke...@mvso.cz --- Tato zpráva byla zkontrolována na viry programem Avast Antivirus. http://www.avast.com
Re: Prototype of case for planed new computer SAM COUPE 2
Hi Velesoft. Am 23.04.2015 um 22:17 schrieb VELESOFT: For it is better RaspberryPi with SIM COUPE emulator. Small and cheap and with more features. :-) All clones are only for fans. I'm a fan!!! Case on my picture is only one of more possible versions. I plan also other cases. Main board will small (mini itx format) and will support different additional boards with connectors. See here: http://velesoft.speccy.cz/other/SAMCLONE_PANEL2.JPG Thats really cool. Does this mean, it will be possible to use ZX Spectrum interfaces directly? Will possible use also similar board for install to original SAM COUPE case, different version to MINI ITX case and different to my cases. SAM 2 is not only clone. Enable good compatibility with ZX128 and faster graphic operations, rom reflashing, rom emulation... This project is primarily maked for me and my friends, but will possible make more pieces. I'm your friend, please! I want one or two of these. You said, it will have Text mode. Can the Text characters be redefined? Which other graphics modes are planed? Real FDD is used only with this my case. SAM 2 can be used also as ZX compatible computer but with all SAM COUPE features as bonus :-) Case will support SD card (in ZX mode compatible with DIVMMC). Real FDD makes sense for users of original software. Big part of USB/PS2 keyboards have ghosting effect and not support some keys combinations in ZX games. For example problems with SINCLAIR joysticks, QWERT, CURSORS+0, QAOP+SPACE, etc... Laptop keyboard contain only membrane, but is possible with software filter eliminate ghosting effect. And TOSHIBA SATELLITE laptop keyboards support most popular keys combinations in ZX games. Info about PC keyboard ghosting test: http://speccy.pl/forum/index.php/topic,1221.msg14678.html#msg14678 High priority is for me keyboard with usable keys combinations in games. Laptop keyboard is small, cheap and is possible buy each type more years after release. SAM 2 use universal adapter for connect any laptop keyboard and will use define keys after first connect new keyboard (any membrane). Each user can define own keys layout. Excellent, but I hope, you can use also original SAM membranes in a SAM case. VELESOFT LCD - Original Message - From: Aleš Keprt a...@keprt.cz To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2015 8:18 PM Subject: Re: Prototype of case for planed new computer SAM COUPE 2 Sorry, I am pessimistic here. I don't like this design. I don't like the look of the original Sam Coupe either, why the hell would anybody want to clone it? In my opinion it's weird, it's a waste of effort and skills. And why 3.5 floppy diskettes? Another weird thing here. It's 2014, not 1984! I would definitely prefer a standard PC keyboard and a computer in a separate box, with flash memory cards (of any easily implementable type) instead of the current design. Best regards, Aley -Původní zpráva- From: VELESOFT Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2015 11:10 PM To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Subject: Re: Prototype of case for planed new computer SAM COUPE 2 New computer compatible with sam coupe and ZX128. Contain real CPU Zilog Z80, and CPLD chip instead old ASIC. Real SAA1099 and AY chip,... Don't contain any modern PIC,ARM. Price is unknown, all is in development. VELESOFT - Original Message - From: Thomas Harte tomh.retros...@gmail.com To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2015 11:01 PM Subject: Re: Prototype of case for planed new computer SAM COUPE 2 It reflects poorly on me but Spanish isn't one of my languages. What sort of machine is it? A genuine hardware compatible or just a Pi-or-whatever in a suitable case? How much? When? In what form? Very exciting. On 22 Apr 2015, at 14:59, Andrew Park alp...@ntlworld.com wrote: Interested to see some more information on this, will it be a DIY sam or produced? Andy From: owner-sam-us...@nvg.ntnu.no [mailto:owner-sam-us...@nvg.ntnu.no] On Behalf Of Kurt K Sent: 22 April 2015 17:34 To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Subject: Re: Prototype of case for planed new computer SAM COUPE 2 Where do we find more information? I'd love to get one. I'll have to look closer on Velesoft's website. On Apr 22, 2015, at 10:50 AM, Leszek Chmielewski retr...@gmail.com wrote: How much will it cost? On Wed, Apr 22, 2015 at 5:29 PM, VELESOFT veles...@seznam.cz wrote: It's first version of case for planed new computer SAM COUPE 2: http://velesoft.speccy.cz/other/SAMCASE_6E.JPG http://velesoft.speccy.cz/other/SAMCASE_6A.JPG http://velesoft.speccy.cz/other/SAMCASE_6D.JPG http://velesoft.speccy.cz/other/SAMCASE_6B.JPG http://velesoft.speccy.cz/other/SAMCASE_6C.JPG http://velesoft.speccy.cz/other/SAMCASE_6G.JPG http://velesoft.speccy.cz/other/SAMCASE_6H.JPG VELESOFT --- Tato zpráva byla zkontrolována na viry programem Avast Antiviru --- Tato zpráva byla zkontrolována na viry programem Avast Antivirus. http://www.avast.com
Re: Prototype of case for planed new computer SAM COUPE 2
Sorry, I am pessimistic here. I don't like this design. I don't like the look of the original Sam Coupe either, why the hell would anybody want to clone it? In my opinion it's weird, it's a waste of effort and skills. And why 3.5 floppy diskettes? Another weird thing here. It's 2014, not 1984! I would definitely prefer a standard PC keyboard and a computer in a separate box, with flash memory cards (of any easily implementable type) instead of the current design. Best regards, Aley -Původní zpráva- From: VELESOFT Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2015 11:10 PM To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Subject: Re: Prototype of case for planed new computer SAM COUPE 2 New computer compatible with sam coupe and ZX128. Contain real CPU Zilog Z80, and CPLD chip instead old ASIC. Real SAA1099 and AY chip,... Don't contain any modern PIC,ARM. Price is unknown, all is in development. VELESOFT - Original Message - From: Thomas Harte tomh.retros...@gmail.com To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2015 11:01 PM Subject: Re: Prototype of case for planed new computer SAM COUPE 2 It reflects poorly on me but Spanish isn't one of my languages. What sort of machine is it? A genuine hardware compatible or just a Pi-or-whatever in a suitable case? How much? When? In what form? Very exciting. On 22 Apr 2015, at 14:59, Andrew Park alp...@ntlworld.com wrote: Interested to see some more information on this, will it be a DIY sam or produced? Andy From: owner-sam-us...@nvg.ntnu.no [mailto:owner-sam-us...@nvg.ntnu.no] On Behalf Of Kurt K Sent: 22 April 2015 17:34 To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Subject: Re: Prototype of case for planed new computer SAM COUPE 2 Where do we find more information? I'd love to get one. I'll have to look closer on Velesoft's website. On Apr 22, 2015, at 10:50 AM, Leszek Chmielewski retr...@gmail.com wrote: How much will it cost? On Wed, Apr 22, 2015 at 5:29 PM, VELESOFT veles...@seznam.cz wrote: It's first version of case for planed new computer SAM COUPE 2: http://velesoft.speccy.cz/other/SAMCASE_6E.JPG http://velesoft.speccy.cz/other/SAMCASE_6A.JPG http://velesoft.speccy.cz/other/SAMCASE_6D.JPG http://velesoft.speccy.cz/other/SAMCASE_6B.JPG http://velesoft.speccy.cz/other/SAMCASE_6C.JPG http://velesoft.speccy.cz/other/SAMCASE_6G.JPG http://velesoft.speccy.cz/other/SAMCASE_6H.JPG VELESOFT --- Tato zpráva byla zkontrolována na viry programem Avast Antiviru --- Tato zpráva byla zkontrolována na viry programem Avast Antivirus. http://www.avast.com - Mgr. Aleš Keprt, Ph.D. private: a...@keprt.cz, www.keprt.cz office: Moravian University College / Moravská vysoká škola Olomouc, ales.ke...@mvso.cz
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Hi. When will this be finished and are you planning to sell them ?? 2015-04-22 19:38 GMT+01:00 VELESOFT veles...@seznam.cz: More info about configuration: http://www.va-de-retro.com/foros/viewtopic.php?f=19t=1898sid=0cc9b1b1b88f4cb0c3e5d815ea804e03start=30#p46413 --- Tato zpráva byla zkontrolována na viry programem Avast Antivirus. http://www.avast.com
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Where do we find more information? I'd love to get one. I'll have to look closer on Velesoft's website. On Apr 22, 2015, at 10:50 AM, Leszek Chmielewski retr...@gmail.com wrote: How much will it cost? On Wed, Apr 22, 2015 at 5:29 PM, VELESOFT veles...@seznam.cz wrote: It's first version of case for planed new computer SAM COUPE 2: http://velesoft.speccy.cz/other/SAMCASE_6E.JPG http://velesoft.speccy.cz/other/SAMCASE_6A.JPG http://velesoft.speccy.cz/other/SAMCASE_6D.JPG http://velesoft.speccy.cz/other/SAMCASE_6B.JPG http://velesoft.speccy.cz/other/SAMCASE_6C.JPG http://velesoft.speccy.cz/other/SAMCASE_6G.JPG http://velesoft.speccy.cz/other/SAMCASE_6H.JPG VELESOFT --- Tato zpráva byla zkontrolována na viry programem Avast Antivirus. http://www.avast.com
Re: Prototype of case for planed new computer SAM COUPE 2
No idea about price. Yet is all in development. Board without case will cheaper. VELESOFT - Original Message - From: Leszek Chmielewski To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2015 5:50 PM Subject: Re: Prototype of case for planed new computer SAM COUPE 2 How much will it cost? On Wed, Apr 22, 2015 at 5:29 PM, VELESOFT veles...@seznam.cz wrote: It's first version of case for planed new computer SAM COUPE 2: http://velesoft.speccy.cz/other/SAMCASE_6E.JPG http://velesoft.speccy.cz/other/SAMCASE_6A.JPG http://velesoft.speccy.cz/other/SAMCASE_6D.JPG http://velesoft.speccy.cz/other/SAMCASE_6B.JPG http://velesoft.speccy.cz/other/SAMCASE_6C.JPG http://velesoft.speccy.cz/other/SAMCASE_6G.JPG http://velesoft.speccy.cz/other/SAMCASE_6H.JPG VELESOFT --- Tato zpráva byla zkontrolována na viry programem Avast Antivirus. http://www.avast.com --- Tato zpráva byla zkontrolována na viry programem Avast Antivirus. http://www.avast.com
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More info about configuration: http://www.va-de-retro.com/foros/viewtopic.php?f=19t=1898sid=0cc9b1b1b88f4cb0c3e5d815ea804e03start=30#p46413 --- Tato zpráva byla zkontrolována na viry programem Avast Antivirus. http://www.avast.com
RE: Prototype of case for planed new computer SAM COUPE 2
Interested to see some more information on this, will it be a DIY sam or produced? Andy From: owner-sam-us...@nvg.ntnu.no [mailto:owner-sam-us...@nvg.ntnu.no] On Behalf Of Kurt K Sent: 22 April 2015 17:34 To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Subject: Re: Prototype of case for planed new computer SAM COUPE 2 Where do we find more information? I'd love to get one. I'll have to look closer on Velesoft's website. On Apr 22, 2015, at 10:50 AM, Leszek Chmielewski retr...@gmail.com wrote: How much will it cost? On Wed, Apr 22, 2015 at 5:29 PM, VELESOFT veles...@seznam.cz wrote: It's first version of case for planed new computer SAM COUPE 2: http://velesoft.speccy.cz/other/SAMCASE_6E.JPG http://velesoft.speccy.cz/other/SAMCASE_6A.JPG http://velesoft.speccy.cz/other/SAMCASE_6D.JPG http://velesoft.speccy.cz/other/SAMCASE_6B.JPG http://velesoft.speccy.cz/other/SAMCASE_6C.JPG http://velesoft.speccy.cz/other/SAMCASE_6G.JPG http://velesoft.speccy.cz/other/SAMCASE_6H.JPG VELESOFT --- Tato zpráva byla zkontrolována na viry programem Avast Antivirus. http://www.avast.com
Re: Prototype of case for planed new computer SAM COUPE 2
Do you have a rough time estimate when we might see it. Six months, a year, longer? Sent from my iPhone On Apr 22, 2015, at 4:10 PM, VELESOFT veles...@seznam.cz wrote: New computer compatible with sam coupe and ZX128. Contain real CPU Zilog Z80, and CPLD chip instead old ASIC. Real SAA1099 and AY chip,... Don't contain any modern PIC,ARM. Price is unknown, all is in development. VELESOFT - Original Message - From: Thomas Harte tomh.retros...@gmail.com To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2015 11:01 PM Subject: Re: Prototype of case for planed new computer SAM COUPE 2 It reflects poorly on me but Spanish isn't one of my languages. What sort of machine is it? A genuine hardware compatible or just a Pi-or-whatever in a suitable case? How much? When? In what form? Very exciting. On 22 Apr 2015, at 14:59, Andrew Park alp...@ntlworld.com wrote: Interested to see some more information on this, will it be a DIY sam or produced? Andy From: owner-sam-us...@nvg.ntnu.no [mailto:owner-sam-us...@nvg.ntnu.no] On Behalf Of Kurt K Sent: 22 April 2015 17:34 To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Subject: Re: Prototype of case for planed new computer SAM COUPE 2 Where do we find more information? I'd love to get one. I'll have to look closer on Velesoft's website. On Apr 22, 2015, at 10:50 AM, Leszek Chmielewski retr...@gmail.com wrote: How much will it cost? On Wed, Apr 22, 2015 at 5:29 PM, VELESOFT veles...@seznam.cz wrote: It's first version of case for planed new computer SAM COUPE 2: http://velesoft.speccy.cz/other/SAMCASE_6E.JPG http://velesoft.speccy.cz/other/SAMCASE_6A.JPG http://velesoft.speccy.cz/other/SAMCASE_6D.JPG http://velesoft.speccy.cz/other/SAMCASE_6B.JPG http://velesoft.speccy.cz/other/SAMCASE_6C.JPG http://velesoft.speccy.cz/other/SAMCASE_6G.JPG http://velesoft.speccy.cz/other/SAMCASE_6H.JPG VELESOFT --- Tato zpráva byla zkontrolována na viry programem Avast Antiviru --- Tato zpráva byla zkontrolována na viry programem Avast Antivirus
Re: Prototype of case for planed new computer SAM COUPE 2
I have to say, I don't like the carbonfibre look - i'd prefer a white stippled spray paint. Case looks good though - this is the first I've seen/heard of this, is there some kind of SAM clone board in development somewhere? Dave On 22/04/2015 16:29, VELESOFT wrote: It's first version of case for planed new computer SAM COUPE 2: http://velesoft.speccy.cz/other/SAMCASE_6E.JPG http://velesoft.speccy.cz/other/SAMCASE_6A.JPG http://velesoft.speccy.cz/other/SAMCASE_6D.JPG http://velesoft.speccy.cz/other/SAMCASE_6B.JPG http://velesoft.speccy.cz/other/SAMCASE_6C.JPG http://velesoft.speccy.cz/other/SAMCASE_6G.JPG http://velesoft.speccy.cz/other/SAMCASE_6H.JPG VELESOFT --- Tato zpráva byla zkontrolována na viry programem Avast Antivirus. http://www.avast.com
Re: Prototype of case for planed new computer SAM COUPE 2
It reflects poorly on me but Spanish isn't one of my languages. What sort of machine is it? A genuine hardware compatible or just a Pi-or-whatever in a suitable case? How much? When? In what form? Very exciting. On 22 Apr 2015, at 14:59, Andrew Park alp...@ntlworld.com wrote: Interested to see some more information on this, will it be a DIY sam or produced? Andy From: owner-sam-us...@nvg.ntnu.no [mailto:owner-sam-us...@nvg.ntnu.no] On Behalf Of Kurt K Sent: 22 April 2015 17:34 To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Subject: Re: Prototype of case for planed new computer SAM COUPE 2 Where do we find more information? I'd love to get one. I'll have to look closer on Velesoft's website. On Apr 22, 2015, at 10:50 AM, Leszek Chmielewski retr...@gmail.com wrote: How much will it cost? On Wed, Apr 22, 2015 at 5:29 PM, VELESOFT veles...@seznam.cz wrote: It's first version of case for planed new computer SAM COUPE 2: http://velesoft.speccy.cz/other/SAMCASE_6E.JPG http://velesoft.speccy.cz/other/SAMCASE_6A.JPG http://velesoft.speccy.cz/other/SAMCASE_6D.JPG http://velesoft.speccy.cz/other/SAMCASE_6B.JPG http://velesoft.speccy.cz/other/SAMCASE_6C.JPG http://velesoft.speccy.cz/other/SAMCASE_6G.JPG http://velesoft.speccy.cz/other/SAMCASE_6H.JPG VELESOFT --- Tato zpráva byla zkontrolována na viry programem Avast Antivirus
Re: Prototype of case for planed new computer SAM COUPE 2
I have main board incomplete, in development. First testing will be on this board ... http://velesoft.speccy.cz/other/multiinterface_001.JPG http://velesoft.speccy.cz/other/multiinterface_002.JPG http://velesoft.speccy.cz/other/multiinterface_003.JPG I can't know time, theoretically end of this year.. VELESOFT - Original Message - From: Kurt K kur...@visi.com To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2015 11:27 PM Subject: Re: Prototype of case for planed new computer SAM COUPE 2 Do you have a rough time estimate when we might see it. Six months, a year, longer? Sent from my iPhone --- Tato zpráva byla zkontrolována na viry programem Avast Antivirus. http://www.avast.com
