[Samba] About NAS versus Samba

2013-07-28 Thread Olivier BILHAUT
Hi ! QNAP TurboNas (our model number is TS-EC1279U-RP) do successfully the trick. Joined as a member to our S4 AD, we use it as a cifs server in a mixed environnement. The server is ssh opened, and the configuration files (ex : smb.conf) could be modified by hand or by an automated script.

Re: [Samba] About NAS versus Samba

2013-07-14 Thread Andrew Bartlett
On Fri, 2013-07-12 at 11:55 -0300, Fernando Lozano wrote: Hi Andrew, I work on a NAS product myself, and at this vendor and my previous vendor Samba 4.0 as an AD DC was all I ever needed to use to test the AD integration features of the NAS. Thanks, Andrew Bartlett Please tell me

Re: [Samba] About NAS versus Samba

2013-07-13 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 9:44 PM, Fernando Lozano ferna...@lozano.eti.br wrote: Hi there, Has anyone tried to configure a NAS server to authenticate users using a Samba PDC, or even a Samba4 DC (AD-compatible) or an IPA server? Given choices, I used NFS. Samba is great for cross compatibility,

Re: [Samba] About NAS versus Samba

2013-07-12 Thread Daniel Müller
...@lists.samba.org] Im Auftrag von Gaiseric Vandal Gesendet: Donnerstag, 11. Juli 2013 18:44 An: samba@lists.samba.org Betreff: Re: [Samba] About NAS versus Samba On 07/11/13 12:29, Fernando Lozano wrote: Hi, what about the samba running on your NAS. I did a lot of NAS hacking pointing a running

Re: [Samba] About NAS versus Samba

2013-07-12 Thread Jim Potter
I use a Netgear readynas1500 as a fileserver for my Samba3/ldap domain which I' ve just upgraded to AD and it works fine in both cases (lots of users, though with relatively few active connections). It runs a bog standard Samba3 + winbind member server (NT or ADS) as far as I can tell. Having

Re: [Samba] About NAS versus Samba

2013-07-12 Thread L . P . H . van Belle
...@lists.samba.org] Namens Jim Potter Verzonden: vrijdag 12 juli 2013 8:44 Aan: samba@lists.samba.org Onderwerp: Re: [Samba] About NAS versus Samba I use a Netgear readynas1500 as a fileserver for my Samba3/ldap domain which I' ve just upgraded to AD and it works fine in both cases (lots of users

Re: [Samba] About NAS versus Samba

2013-07-12 Thread Gaiseric Vandal
With Samba 3.x (I think it was samba 3.4.x when we started deploying Windows 7) I found that offline folders on Windows 7 broke offline authentication. On 07/12/13 02:43, Jim Potter wrote: I use a Netgear readynas1500 as a fileserver for my Samba3/ldap domain which I' ve just upgraded to AD

Re: [Samba] About NAS versus Samba

2013-07-12 Thread Fernando Lozano
Hi, Its simple, this is a BAD thing tot do. But if you really want a nas. As a technician I can agree, but I ceased trying to explain to management. Hey, we must help hardware vendor personal have a living ;-) and they help us put more expertise areas in our own resume. ;-))) Get a

Re: [Samba] About NAS versus Samba

2013-07-12 Thread Fernando Lozano
Hi Andrew, I work on a NAS product myself, and at this vendor and my previous vendor Samba 4.0 as an AD DC was all I ever needed to use to test the AD integration features of the NAS. Thanks, Andrew Bartlett Please tell me which product this is, so I can contact the local reseller. :-) You

Re: [Samba] About NAS versus Samba

2013-07-11 Thread Daniel Müller
--- -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: samba-boun...@lists.samba.org [mailto:samba-boun...@lists.samba.org] Im Auftrag von ferna...@lozano.eti.br Gesendet: Donnerstag, 11. Juli 2013 06:04 An: Chris Weiss Cc: samba; us...@lists.fedoraproject.org Betreff: Re: [Samba] About NAS versus

Re: [Samba] About NAS versus Samba

2013-07-11 Thread Chris Weiss
On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 11:00 PM, Jeremy Allison j...@samba.org wrote: but not all NASs do. there are several commercial SMB/CIFS implementation out there. Sure, but non available to buy as a software-only product to my knowledge. They all come with hardware attached :-). right, *I* can't

Re: [Samba] About NAS versus Samba

2013-07-11 Thread Chris Weiss
On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 11:03 PM, ferna...@lozano.eti.br wrote: Hi Cris, Hi there, Has anyone tried to configure a NAS server to authenticate users using a Samba PDC, or even a Samba4 DC (AD-compatible) or an IPA server? not in a while, but I have done a samba 3 DC This was not my

Re: [Samba] About NAS versus Samba

2013-07-11 Thread Bob Bob
Hi Fernando I have a site that runs 2 trusted domain PDC's across a OpenVPN link. At one end there is a (older) Buffalo Terrastation NAS. The NAS quite happily authenticates etc both sets of domain users. It has the option of Workgroup, NT Domain or AD. I use NT Domain. The PDC's run on Debian

Re: [Samba] About NAS versus Samba

2013-07-11 Thread Fernando Lozano
Hi, Hi there, Has anyone tried to configure a NAS server to authenticate users using a Samba PDC, or even a Samba4 DC (AD-compatible) or an IPA server? not in a while, but I have done a samba 3 DC This was not my question. I'm ok running samba 3 DCs. :-) oh but it was! PDC means NT4 style,

Re: [Samba] About NAS versus Samba

2013-07-11 Thread Fernando Lozano
Hi Bob, I have a site that runs 2 trusted domain PDC's across a OpenVPN link. At one end there is a (older) Buffalo Terrastation NAS. The NAS quite happily authenticates etc both sets of domain users. It has the option of Workgroup, NT Domain or AD. I use NT Domain. The PDC's run on Debian

Re: [Samba] About NAS versus Samba

2013-07-11 Thread Jeremy Allison
On Thu, Jul 11, 2013 at 08:01:20AM -0500, Chris Weiss wrote: On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 11:00 PM, Jeremy Allison j...@samba.org wrote: but not all NASs do. there are several commercial SMB/CIFS implementation out there. Sure, but non available to buy as a software-only product to my

Re: [Samba] About NAS versus Samba

2013-07-11 Thread Fernando Lozano
Hi, No, they all write their own these days. None available to license as far as I'm aware. Most times the proprietary NAS software is simply a web interface over a standard Linux/FreeBSD OS using Samba. If you know Samba and Linux, the web interface may be a hurdle, not allowing access to

Re: [Samba] About NAS versus Samba

2013-07-11 Thread Gaiseric Vandal
On 07/11/13 11:50, Jeremy Allison wrote: On Thu, Jul 11, 2013 at 08:01:20AM -0500, Chris Weiss wrote: On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 11:00 PM, Jeremy Allison j...@samba.org wrote: but not all NASs do. there are several commercial SMB/CIFS implementation out there. Sure, but non available to buy

Re: [Samba] About NAS versus Samba

2013-07-11 Thread Hoover, Tony
...@lists.fedoraproject.org; samba@lists.samba.org Subject: [Samba] About NAS versus Samba Hi there, Has anyone tried to configure a NAS server to authenticate users using a Samba PDC, or even a Samba4 DC (AD-compatible) or an IPA server? I'm evaluating replacing some Linux file server for a NAS

Re: [Samba] About NAS versus Samba

2013-07-11 Thread Fernando Lozano
Hi, what about the samba running on your NAS. I did a lot of NAS hacking pointing a running samba/winbind config of the vendor to my nt-style samba/ldap domain . But if you do so be aware you are loosing your support :-). So if you can change the samba on your NAS you are up and running. I

Re: [Samba] About NAS versus Samba

2013-07-11 Thread Fernando Lozano
Hi Tony, RE: [Samba] About NAS versus Samba I've had experience with a Western Digital MyBook Live DUO, and it does NOT support any type of network authentication. Users must be created and deleted on that device. Thanks. May good for home use, but not for my employee. Anyway a vendor

Re: [Samba] About NAS versus Samba

2013-07-11 Thread Gaiseric Vandal
On 07/11/13 12:29, Fernando Lozano wrote: Hi, what about the samba running on your NAS. I did a lot of NAS hacking pointing a running samba/winbind config of the vendor to my nt-style samba/ldap domain . But if you do so be aware you are loosing your support :-). So if you can change the

Re: [Samba] About NAS versus Samba

2013-07-11 Thread Fernando Lozano
Hi Gaiseric, It seems common that vendors (esp the sales guys) assume you are running Windows 200x and AD.I think the logic is that none of our customers use linux so we won't support it. It becomes self-fulfilling when anyone wanting something besides the basic Windows AD support

Re: [Samba] About NAS versus Samba

2013-07-11 Thread Scott Lovenberg
On Thu, Jul 11, 2013 at 12:55 PM, Fernando Lozano ferna...@lozano.eti.br wrote: But you know, everyone buys NASes today, it's getting harder to explaing a common PC would be better. Here a server box with a RAID controller and a hot-swappable disk bays is way more expensive than an iomega NAS

Re: [Samba] About NAS versus Samba

2013-07-11 Thread Luca Olivetti
Al 11/07/13 18:43, En/na Fernando Lozano ha escrit: Hi Tony, RE: [Samba] About NAS versus Samba I've had experience with a Western Digital MyBook Live DUO, and it does NOT support any type of network authentication. Users must be created and deleted on that device. Thanks. May good

Re: [Samba] About NAS versus Samba

2013-07-11 Thread Gaiseric Vandal
If you use raid you should either use a true hardware raid (e.g from LSI or Adaptec) or true software raid. The firmware raid (aka fake raid) included on some motherboards is just asking for trouble.For the price of the true hardware raid card you might as well stick with software raid.

Re: [Samba] About NAS versus Samba

2013-07-11 Thread Andrew Bartlett
On Thu, 2013-07-11 at 01:03 -0300, ferna...@lozano.eti.br wrote: But... will any NAS you know work with a Samba DC, or else, using an IPA server? Or will they only work with Microsoft Windows Server AD? One of the many reasons to upgrade to a Samba 4.0 AD DC is that if a NAS doesn't work

[Samba] About NAS versus Samba

2013-07-10 Thread Fernando Lozano
Hi there, Has anyone tried to configure a NAS server to authenticate users using a Samba PDC, or even a Samba4 DC (AD-compatible) or an IPA server? I'm evaluating replacing some Linux file server for a NAS product, but all them make me nervous when the vendor talks about Active Directory support

Re: [Samba] About NAS versus Samba

2013-07-10 Thread Chris Weiss
On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 8:44 PM, Fernando Lozano ferna...@lozano.eti.br wrote: Hi there, Has anyone tried to configure a NAS server to authenticate users using a Samba PDC, or even a Samba4 DC (AD-compatible) or an IPA server? not in a while, but I have done a samba 3 DC I'm evaluating

Re: [Samba] About NAS versus Samba

2013-07-10 Thread Jeremy Allison
On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 10:17:56PM -0500, Chris Weiss wrote: a cheaper nas will probably use samba, Or a very expensive one :-). Samba is used mainly in the low end NAS (due to cost), or extremely high end NAS (due to flexibility for the vendor to make it do *anything* :-) but not all NASs

Re: [Samba] About NAS versus Samba

2013-07-10 Thread fernando
Hi Cris, Hi there, Has anyone tried to configure a NAS server to authenticate users using a Samba PDC, or even a Samba4 DC (AD-compatible) or an IPA server? not in a while, but I have done a samba 3 DC This was not my question. I'm ok running samba 3 DCs. :-) Have you ever configured a