On Sat, 19 Oct 2019 04:44:10 +0300,
Svetlana Tkachenko wrote:
> Yavor Doganov написал(а):
> > | You are not allowed to post comments on this tracker with your
> > | current authentication level.
>
> Have GNUstep project administrators disabled their bug tracker?
Ugh, appare
Some time ago, I reported some bugs to different Savannah projects but
now it looks like I cannot post a followup (add a comment) which seems
rather strange. At the top of these bugs there's a line saying:
| You are not allowed to post comments on this tracker with your
| current authentication
Alex Fernandez wrote:
Improving Emacs on Windows may look like improving Windows, when seen
by a critical eye; but in the end it is more about improving Emacs
itself.
There is little reason to improve Emacs if that improvement is not
going to take us closer where we want to go. The GNU
Bernie Innocenti wrote:
Some time ago, tired of having to remember which VCS was being used by
each of the projects I follow occasionally, I wrote a trivial script
called up which guesses the repository format and calls the
appropriate command.
There's mr (http://kitenet.net/~joey/code/mr,
Bernie Innocenti wrote:
There's mr
I tried it out. It's a very nice meta-vcs, but there's one annoyance:
you need to register repositories before you can update them.
Ah, that's an overwhelming limitation, indeed (I've never used mr,
just thought it's worth mentioning).
How could we make
At Tue, 7 Dec 2010 22:00:44 +0100,
Sylvain Beucler wrote:
I clearly remember that at a point, I saw a communication from a GNU
webmaster stating that it was no longer necessary to provide a way
for 'www' members to access to per-projects webpages
(www.gnu.org/s/*). I don't mind re-enabling
At Sun, 25 Jul 2010 12:51:12 -0500,
Mario Castelan Castro wrote:
It is unfortunate that #savannah is not going to be on the same
I rather think it's unfortunate GNU channels are on Freenode
If you believe so (note that I don't dispute your statement, as I
can't possibly evaluate its meaning),
Sylvain Beucler wrote:
Is it normal that www-th does not have a project admin?
Yes, for orphaned/non-functional translation teams.
Sylvain Beucler wrote:
On Thu, Jul 22, 2010 at 10:09:24PM +, Karl Berry wrote:
I'll be interested to see what other savannah folk think.
[I don't think I count as savannah folk, but anyway.]
Personally, I don't care much, not being an IRC user myself, but...
I got an OK from Mario and
At some point in the past, I'm quite sure that if you attached a file
on a tracker item with a comment, the comment about the attached
file was visible in the generated email message. This is no longer
true, though.
Could you restore the old behavior please? It was useful.
(See
At Fri, 24 Jul 2009 16:54:17 +0200,
Sylvain Beucler wrote:
Btw, I was also pointed to Vertaal:
Do you know about it?
I've heard about it but thought that's an internal SuSE thing.
Apparently not.
Noah Slater wrote:
User-agent: *
Disallow: /
The effect is that no mailing lists are spidered by Google,
This is a deliberate decision by the GNU sysadmins, although I can't
tell right now the reasons behind it (and I don't care, actually --
not being indexed by proprietary search
Nicodemo Alvaro wrote:
https://savannah.gnu.org/maintenance/MailSystem
Thanks, I was sure the reasons were purely technical, although I
didn't remember the details.
Noah Slater wrote:
I'm not sure if this is a joke, but I struggle to take it seriously.
Not a joke.
I avoid using Google,
Noah Slater wrote:
Sylvain, Karl, thoughts?
Sylvain and Karl are not GNU sysadmins, so they have little to do
here, except expressing an opinion.
the GNU project does not have a mission to make their life easier
You have the wrong framing, this is about making it easy for users.
In the
Andrea Pescetti wrote:
As Savannah was down for a few days recently, I had accumulated a small
queue of changes to upload to the gnu.org website CVS repository.
When I committed them, yesterday, I got an error on the Triggering
webpage updates... (or very similar) message that appears at
John Sullivan wrote:
Leo was doing quite a lot of work for GNU and the FSF...
Not speaking about Leo personnaly...
...but that's a problem with nearly all volunteers for the big pile of
unexciting tasks. They start with a truckload of enthusiasm, but
after N months they eventually run out of
Sylvain Beucler wrote:
The www-el project doesn't have any admin.
Yes, Athanasios left www-el, www and the mailing lists.
Do you think this is normal?
Absolutely not, but what can I do?
He doesn't respond to my messages -- I wanted him to confirm that this
was intended, as we need to find
I'd like to share my comments regarding this topic; please note that
what I say is entirely based on (now substantially blurred) memories
from earlier discussions/documents/etc. It is simply my humble
uneducated opinion on how I interpret this complex matter -- no more,
no less.
I beleive the
Sylvain Beucler wrote:
I do think that a vast majority of people don't compile their software
and get it packaged.
I agree.
Which means the availability of a package in a distro is critical.
Critical for what? For its popularity and easy availability only, I
guess.
In addition, given the
Nicodemo Alvaro wrote:
What I was not understanding is would the GiVMi project maintainer
have to get the approval of those projects to use Openssl.
The problem only exists for dynamic linking with GPL libraries. LGPL
is OK. (And of course you can't copy-paste any LGPL/GPL code without
the
Sylvain Beucler wrote:
One thing you didn't mention is using GnuTLS.
Deliberately -- it's well known, and hated among major developers
(why?) [1]. Migration to GnuTLS is not always trivial, and the
openssl compatibility layer (in gnutls-extra, I think) does not work
in all cases and is under
Sylvain Beucler wrote:
On the other hand, I see a growing number of Debian packages linked
against GnuTLS.
Of course -- many people understand the problem, and choose to go the
safe route. That's one of the reasons why the GnuTLS project was
started in the first place, if you recall.
OTOH,
Nicodemo Alvaro wrote:
If you take a look at this license notice you would find that it is
incompatible with the GPL.
Yes, that's a well known issue, see
http://www.gnome.org/~markmc/openssl-and-the-gpl.html.
The project GiVME has a dependency on openssl.
It should have a special exception
Is there a tasklist what remains to be done for full official support of
Bzr at Savanah? I searched the wiki but couldn't find anything
(probably my fault, though).
Sylvain Beucler wrote:
http://savannah.gnu.org/maintenance/PhpIssues
The main issue was not the PHP license itself, it was the fact PEAR
was using it for some of their own independant PHP libraries.
So, the incompatibility with the GPL is just one of the problems
(which alone is enough for
Sylvain Beucler wrote:
Is there any interest to install it at Savannah?
For the time being -- no, at least as far as web-translators are
concerned. RMS promised a separate server for our stuff (mostly
because the FSF admins are always lagging, and this would require many
tweaks/interventions,
Karl Berry wrote:
I think COPYING should always be in the source repository and that
it is a bug that automake inserts it
IMVHO, as far as I have followed Automake lists and the GNU Build
System lists in general, this feature is meant to be just a
convenience for GNU maintainers. It is not
Noah Slater wrote:
On Thu, Dec 11, 2008 at 07:27:47PM +0100, Sylvain Beucler wrote:
We recommend using 'COPYING' [...]
Is it okay if COPYING is added by GNU Automake at packaging time but
is absent from the actual source. I do not like keeping generated
files in my repository and this is
Karl Berry wrote:
Would non-compiling scripts, such as shell scripts, be
described as source files.
Definitely, as Noah said. In short, the author should put a license
notice in anything they create, i.e., that is not a derived file.
While this is right, many people do not add
On Fri, Nov 28, 2008 at 02:33:16PM -0500, Nicodemo Alvaro wrote:
If it's a case of being picky I won't annoy the people who do not add
the licenses to those files. Thanks for the help.
IMHO it is desirable to mention that these files must have notices, but
having that as a requirement for
use for Emacs the single email per commit script used by default
(containing summary+message+diff), and send it to the emacs-diffs
mailing list.
Done. There was one problem -- the commits in lisp/mh-e were sent to
emacs-commit with diffs (and nothing to emacs-diffs). I've always
wondered
[ Sylvain, this is about a request to change the commit notifications
setup for the emacs project. ]
At Thu, 20 Nov 2008 23:05:26 -0500,
Stefan Monnier wrote:
The log_accum.pl script used by Savannah by default sends all of the
changes (summary + commit message + diffs) in one email even
Karl Berry wrote:
That is, a generic url that automatically redirects to a nearby
mirror -- e.g., http://ftpmirror.gnu.org
That's awesome. I knew such a thing is in the works, but didn't know
it's actually running. Do you plan to advertise this service
actively? That way the mirror
Karl Berry wrote:
It's basically just a few lines that interface between the mirmon
data and GeoIP, as I recall.
Hmm, this is wrong, I believe. The geographically closest mirror is
not necessarily the fastest one. In fact with my disgusting
monopolist provider it never is. Connecting to
Karl Berry wrote:
I did put a note about it onto gnu.org/prep/ftp.html when I added
the anchors a couple days ago :).
The thing is, nearly nobody uses that list (now).
What other important places come to mind?
I vaguelly remember a discussion involving you, me and the sysadmins
to run
Karl Berry wrote:
The geographically closest mirror is not necessarily the fastest
one.
Sure, but it's the only information available. It is much better than
just choosing one completely at random.
I thought that some smart query is being made to determine which
mirror is best?
Karl Berry wrote:
No, we certainly don't want to redirect the ftp.gnu.org name itself.
OK, I haven't thought about that aspect. Entirely reasonable and
understandable.
to actually redirect to the _fastest_ nearest mirror.
What's done now is the best that can be done, as far as I
Karl Berry wrote:
I don't claim it's a panacea
I see, thanks for all the explanations. I understand the reasoning
much better now.
Sylvain Beucler wrote:
Hmmm,
but nothing happened at
http://_www-test_.gnu.org/fun/jokes/gnuemacs.html
'www-test' is disabled, now that we have proper on-commit replication.
Yavor, are you talking about 'www-test' or 'www' (or both)?
I was talking about 'www'. I don't care about
Joakim Olsson wrote:
but nothing happened at http://www-test.gnu.org/fun/jokes/gnuemacs.html
Since yesterday at around 15:00-17:00 UTC (based on non-scientific
observation) commits in the www project do not appear online at
nadesico.
This happened many times before, and was sysadmin's concern
:(
Please don't laugh too loud...
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From: Yavor Doganov [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2008 17:14:55 +0300
Subject: [PATCH] Prevent creation of mailing lists with names reserved by
Mailman.
---
frontend/php/mail/admin
Sylvain Beucler wrote:
you need to detect suffixes, so checking the complete name won't
work.
That's what I thought I'm doing -- according to my (uneducated)
reading, $list_name['new'] is esaxtly the suffix in
[EMAIL PROTECTED] Of course I may be wrong, but I can't see
what's the right
This is a classic chicken-and-egg problem, which I wanted to discuss
when I saw task #8191. Now the ticket came to webmasters.
Romel Sandoval writes:
I'm trying to create a GNU User Group on Savannah [1], but after some
waiting, I read something on Savannah user's mailling list [2] that
says
Sylvain, I see you made an announcement about the replication, and I
assume you made the necessary changes on the Savannah side.
May I inform the translators that this task has been completed, and
they can start committing to their web repositories?
Since Monday I don't get CVS commits notifications from the various
projects I'm following. Commits do happen, it's just that they're not
mailed to the appropriate lists.
I saw a fairly recent change in diffmon or savane-cleanup touching
log_accum.pl, perhaps that's the culprit?
Karl Berry wrote:
Is there a way to sort the pending projects so that ones that want
to be GNU are listed first/separately?
Not ideal, but...
* In Display Criteria choose Advanced query form.
* In the Original Submission cell type official GNU.
* Use logical OR between 'Summary' and
Ward Vandewege via RT wrote:
www/software/chinese
Can you remove it from there too?
What a mess... There is /software/chinese and /chinese in www.
They'll be removed when the Chinese folks move the content to the
www-zh-cn Web repository.
I sincerely apologize for having sat on this
Ward Vandewege via RT wrote:
There are still some other projects checked out under non-gnu:
www-bg/ www-bn/ www-eo/ www-fi/ www-ja/ www-nl/ wwwauth/ wwwbg/
wwwhurd/
I'm assuming that www-bg, www-bn, www-eo, www-fi, www-ja, www-nl and
wwwbg can be deleted; can you confirm that?
At Mon, 23 Jun 2008 23:39:34 +0300,
Явор Доганов wrote:
Meanwhile, the ticket that Tim filed has been moved to our queue, so
I'll let you know about the outcome in a few days.
The group was added to the list so everything is in order.
Sylvain Beucler wrote:
Do you think we should remove the Savannah account and resources
meanwhile? I guess it depends on how likely DFEY-NW is to be listed.
No, only iff it gets rejected; it seems unnecessary burden for you and
I'm sure Tim will be wise enough not to spread the word about the
Tim Dobson wrote:
If you get listed as a Free Software user group, we can approve
the project.
We are now listed as a FSUG [1].
We are now listed as a FSUG because I edited the file. would be the
sentence that correctly represents what happened.
Well, it doesn't work this way. Having
Please add:
URL: http://mirrors.zerg.biz/nongnu/
Location: Germany
Admin: Mihai Leonte voidextreme m4_@ googlemail m4_. com
This is an old request regarding translation teams renaming which
involves joint GNU sysadmins + Savannah hackers action (sorry!).
I'm feeling uneasy to reopen it, but AFAICT it is not yet resolved.
I believe you have all the details in the RT log; it basically boils
down to renaming all
Now that Subversion is officially supported, should
https://savannah.gnu.org/maintenance/WhenSvN be deleted/renamed or
edited somehow? It creates the impression that there are many things
still to be done. Is it so?
Also, the GNUstep project moved the repository to Gna! some years ago;
would it
Basically all files in the root of the www project's web repostory,
added after 2005-02-22 are with permissions 444. Very unfortunate.
Today I added a /po subdirectory with a bunch of files and all of them
were added as read-only too.
The only reasonable explanation is that www was made
Sylvain Beucler wrote:
I had a look at po/ and it doesn't look different than the rest of
the CVS files at Savannah :/
Too bad, it basically rules out my theory.
Files are created 444 _on the server_ but that's the way CVS set
permissions for all repositories.
This is where the oddity
FWIW, I fully agree with what John said, plus:
Jonathan Gonzalez V. wrote:
Savannah, as many other sites, it's a forge, with a big different, we
only host free software. All the software that you can find here it
was reviewed and verified that doesn't have any license problem which
include
On Thu, Feb 28, 2008 at 03:03:42PM +, Noah Slater wrote:
Why is there a distinction between GNU and non-GNU on Savannah?
Sylvain or Karl can explain much better, but here's my take:
1) Mapping of the web repositories. GNU projects are mapped to
gnu.org/software/package while non-GNU to
[ Full quote because of trans-coord-discuss readers. ]
At Fri, 22 Feb 2008 20:58:37 +0100,
Sylvain Beucler wrote:
On Mon, Feb 18, 2008 at 09:51:09PM +0800, William Cai wrote:
Sorry, I did not catch up with this thread. Shall I move the stuff from
www/software/chinese to
On Fri, Feb 22, 2008 at 04:42:06PM -0600, Karl Berry wrote:
Yavor, I confess I don't understand the reasoning for dropping the
www-.
Only for the projects' homepages, e.g.
/server/standards/translations/ca.
The projects will be www-LANG, of course.
Right. Well, /server/translations/
At Tue, 12 Feb 2008 22:20:17 +0100,
Sylvain Beucler wrote:
Once everything is done, the old locations at www.nongnu.org and
www.gnu.org/software/ won't be updated anymore, so we need to spot
them and remove them. It's a clean-up job.
Ah, of course. Here's the list of locations to be
At Tue, 12 Feb 2008 22:20:17 +0100,
Sylvain Beucler wrote:
Once everything is done, the old locations at www.nongnu.org and
www.gnu.org/software/ won't be updated anymore, so we need to spot
them and remove them. It's a clean-up job.
Ah, of course. Here's the list of locations to be
At Sat, 29 Dec 2007 10:12:08 +0100,
Sylvain Beucler wrote:
- a list of old webpage locations to remove (the nongnu.org/wwwXX
pages, in particular)
- the list of translation projects to map to
http://www.gnu.org/server/standards/translations/foo)
Sylvain, I'm sorry but I find
At Sat, 29 Dec 2007 10:12:08 +0100,
Sylvain Beucler wrote:
- a list of old webpage locations to remove (the nongnu.org/wwwXX
pages, in particular)
- the list of translation projects to map to
http://www.gnu.org/server/standards/translations/foo)
Sylvain, I'm sorry but I find
On Thu, Jan 31, 2008 at 07:40:29PM +, Noah Slater wrote:
On Thu, Jan 31, 2008 at 09:38:46PM +0200, Yavor Doganov wrote:
Yes, but in CVS.
So, let me see if I get this, if you have a Subversion project you
have to keep the gnu.org web pages under CVS? :/
Yes, likewise for Git or GNU Arch
Sylvain Beucler wrote:
Done.
Many thanks. (I'll add the aliases later tonight).
www-el-general already exists,
See https://savannah.gnu.org/task/?7573 -- perhaps my advice there was
wrong :/ Αθανάσιος, can you confirm that the list works?
(please don't do that again!)
I promise.
Is
Sylvain Beucler wrote:
Done.
Many thanks. (I'll add the aliases later tonight).
www-el-general already exists,
See https://savannah.gnu.org/task/?7573 -- perhaps my advice there was
wrong :/ Αθανάσιος, can you confirm that the list works?
(please don't do that again!)
I promise.
Is
On Wed, Jan 02, 2008 at 08:05:02PM +0100, Sylvain Beucler wrote:
Just to know - who (besides me) is approving / moderation the Savannah
mailing lists?
Not me, but I can volunteer in case there is nobody more suitable than
me (I admit that it is strange to do zero Savannah work as in my case
Sylvain Beucler wrote:
Those aliases could be removed in a couple of months or so.
We can do that with aliases at fencepost (I don't know if you guys
have an account there).
Sure.
Anyway, can I have a list of old names - new names for the lists
(including the one you already found)?
William Cai wrote:
You probably already knew that there are actually two set of Chinese
encodings, i.e. Simplified Chinese and Traditional Chinese. zh-cn
is used for Simplified Chinese only.
I would like to leave www-zh-tw available in case a separate project
is created (there might be many
William Cai wrote:
You probably already knew that there are actually two set of Chinese
encodings, i.e. Simplified Chinese and Traditional Chinese. zh-cn
is used for Simplified Chinese only.
I would like to leave www-zh-tw available in case a separate project
is created (there might be many
Sylvain Beucler wrote:
Since all translation projects start now with www, could it be
possible to change this default (i.e. omit `www-' at the beginning)?
That was a mistake in the group type configuration.
Fixed :)
Thanks.
The convention could be [EMAIL PROTECTED]
OK, give me a week
On Sun, Dec 30, 2007 at 11:12:06PM +0800, William Cai wrote:
One thing to clarify -- Simplified Chinese and Traditional Chinese are
the same language as well.
Oh, sure, no need to clarify (for me at least). The difference is
(correct me if I'm wrong) that you cannot convert from one script
Sylvain Beucler wrote:
I think we can proceed this way:
- Give me a list of projects to rename (old name - new name). Check
whether there're project mailing lists to rename and give me a list
too.
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