Re: [Savannah-hackers-public] Delays in mail delivery by gnu.org mailing lists

2022-11-14 Thread Dora Scilipoti
Ian Kelling : Actually, mailman broke last night when that problem happened. Sorry I didn't notice. It is fixed now. I'm working on improving our alerting for this. I can now see the msg in the archives and a copy was delivered to my inbox. All OK. Thanks. -- Dora Scilipoti

Re: [Savannah-hackers-public] Delays in mail delivery by gnu.org mailing lists

2022-11-14 Thread Ian Kelling
Ian Kelling writes: > Dora Scilipoti writes: > >> Hello, >> >> I sent the msg below yesterday but I can't it in archives of the >> www-es-general mailing list and I have not received a copy in my inbox >> so far. >> >> == >> From - Mon, 14 Nov 2022 02:06:21 GMT >> Message-ID:

Re: [Savannah-hackers-public] Delays in mail delivery by gnu.org mailing lists

2022-11-14 Thread Ian Kelling
Dora Scilipoti writes: > Hello, > > I sent the msg below yesterday but I can't it in archives of the > www-es-general mailing list and I have not received a copy in my inbox > so far. > > == > From - Mon, 14 Nov 2022 02:06:21 GMT > Message-ID:

Re: [Savannah-hackers-public] Delays in mail delivery by gnu.org mailing lists

2022-11-14 Thread Dora Scilipoti
Hello, I sent the msg below yesterday but I can't it in archives of the www-es-general mailing list and I have not received a copy in my inbox so far. == From - Mon, 14 Nov 2022 02:06:21 GMT X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 0080 Message-ID:

Re: [Savannah-hackers-public] Delays in mail delivery by gnu.org mailing lists

2022-10-24 Thread Eli Zaretskii
> From: Ian Kelling > Cc: psm...@gnu.org, savannah-hackers-public@gnu.org > Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2022 14:06:24 -0400 > > > Eli Zaretskii writes: > > >> Date: Sun, 23 Oct 2022 20:32:37 +0300 > >> From: Eli Zaretskii > >> Cc: psm...@gnu.org, savannah-hackers-public@gnu.org > >> > >> > From: Ian

Re: [Savannah-hackers-public] Delays in mail delivery by gnu.org mailing lists

2022-10-24 Thread Ian Kelling
Eli Zaretskii writes: >> Date: Sun, 23 Oct 2022 20:32:37 +0300 >> From: Eli Zaretskii >> Cc: psm...@gnu.org, savannah-hackers-public@gnu.org >> >> > From: Ian Kelling >> > Cc: Eli Zaretskii , savannah-hackers-public@gnu.org >> > Date: Sun, 23 Oct 2022 13:13:23 -0400 >> > >> > There was an

Re: [Savannah-hackers-public] Delays in mail delivery by gnu.org mailing lists

2022-10-24 Thread Eli Zaretskii
> Date: Sun, 23 Oct 2022 20:32:37 +0300 > From: Eli Zaretskii > Cc: psm...@gnu.org, savannah-hackers-public@gnu.org > > > From: Ian Kelling > > Cc: Eli Zaretskii , savannah-hackers-public@gnu.org > > Date: Sun, 23 Oct 2022 13:13:23 -0400 > > > > There was an error on the mail server I

Re: [Savannah-hackers-public] Delays in mail delivery by gnu.org mailing lists

2022-10-24 Thread Ian Kelling
Paul Smith writes: > On Sat, 2022-10-22 at 09:35 +0300, Eli Zaretskii wrote: >> > Thanks, I will report any significant problems if I see them. >> >> I have now seen a message that was delayed by 2 hours and 50 minutes. >> Would you like me to post it, or any parts of it that might be of >>

Re: [Savannah-hackers-public] Delays in mail delivery by gnu.org mailing lists

2022-10-23 Thread Ian Kelling
Paul Smith writes: > On Sat, 2022-10-22 at 09:35 +0300, Eli Zaretskii wrote: >> > Thanks, I will report any significant problems if I see them. >> >> I have now seen a message that was delayed by 2 hours and 50 minutes. >> Would you like me to post it, or any parts of it that might be of >>

Re: [Savannah-hackers-public] Delays in mail delivery by gnu.org mailing lists

2022-10-23 Thread Paul Smith
On Sun, 2022-10-23 at 13:13 -0400, Ian Kelling wrote: > There was an error on the mail server I overlooked. It is fixed now > and mail is working its way through the queue. Sorry, I've been > working on speeding up overall mail delivery, and some of the changes > have caused unfortunate delays as

Re: [Savannah-hackers-public] Delays in mail delivery by gnu.org mailing lists

2022-10-23 Thread Eli Zaretskii
> From: Ian Kelling > Cc: Eli Zaretskii , savannah-hackers-public@gnu.org > Date: Sun, 23 Oct 2022 13:13:23 -0400 > > There was an error on the mail server I overlooked. It is fixed now and > mail is working its way through the queue. Sorry, I've been working on > speeding up overall mail

Re: [Savannah-hackers-public] Delays in mail delivery by gnu.org mailing lists

2022-10-23 Thread Paul Smith
On Sat, 2022-10-22 at 09:35 +0300, Eli Zaretskii wrote: > > Thanks, I will report any significant problems if I see them. > > I have now seen a message that was delayed by 2 hours and 50 minutes. > Would you like me to post it, or any parts of it that might be of > interest? I've sent a number

Re: [Savannah-hackers-public] Delays in mail delivery by gnu.org mailing lists

2022-10-22 Thread Eli Zaretskii
> Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2022 11:56:53 +0300 > From: Eli Zaretskii > Cc: savannah-hackers-public@gnu.org > > > From: Ian Kelling > > Cc: Eli Zaretskii , savannah-hackers-public@gnu.org > > Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2022 04:06:30 -0400 > > > > I've made a bunch of configuration changes. Mainly to scale out

Re: [Savannah-hackers-public] Delays in mail delivery by gnu.org mailing lists

2022-10-21 Thread Eli Zaretskii
> From: Ian Kelling > Cc: savannah-hackers-public@gnu.org > Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2022 13:32:34 -0400 > > There was some log file permissions error that was causing a lot of mail > to not get delivered. I don't know why, but I fixed it and the backlog > is being processed. I'm not sure if that is

Re: [Savannah-hackers-public] Delays in mail delivery by gnu.org mailing lists

2022-10-20 Thread Ian Kelling
There was some log file permissions error that was causing a lot of mail to not get delivered. I don't know why, but I fixed it and the backlog is being processed. I'm not sure if that is related to the delay in your example message. I'm continuing to investigate.

Re: [Savannah-hackers-public] Delays in mail delivery by gnu.org mailing lists

2022-10-20 Thread Eli Zaretskii
> Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2022 11:56:53 +0300 > From: Eli Zaretskii > Cc: savannah-hackers-public@gnu.org > > Thanks, I will report any significant problems if I see them. Here's an example of a message that seems to have sat for about 1.5 hour in the queue (from 07:28 to 08:56), and then for another

Re: [Savannah-hackers-public] Delays in mail delivery by gnu.org mailing lists

2022-10-20 Thread Eli Zaretskii
> From: Ian Kelling > Cc: Eli Zaretskii , savannah-hackers-public@gnu.org > Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2022 04:06:30 -0400 > > I've made a bunch of configuration changes. Mainly to scale out exim and > mailman into more processes which removes potential bottlenecks, plus > giving the machine more virtual

Re: [Savannah-hackers-public] Delays in mail delivery by gnu.org mailing lists

2022-10-20 Thread Ian Kelling
Ian Kelling writes: > Ian Kelling writes: > >> The monitoring I had setup was >> looking at the time it took to send to the archive. It seems that was >> not a good measure, this email went to the archive quickly, but 1.5 >> hours to go to recipients. > > I adjusted the monitoring to look at

Re: [Savannah-hackers-public] Delays in mail delivery by gnu.org mailing lists

2022-10-14 Thread Eli Zaretskii
> From: Ian Kelling > Cc: Eli Zaretskii , savannah-hackers-public@gnu.org, > mail...@gnu.org > Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2022 22:25:51 -0400 > > > Ian Kelling writes: > > > The monitoring I had setup was > > looking at the time it took to send to the archive. It seems that was > > not a good

Re: [Savannah-hackers-public] Delays in mail delivery by gnu.org mailing lists

2022-10-13 Thread Ian Kelling
Ian Kelling writes: > The monitoring I had setup was > looking at the time it took to send to the archive. It seems that was > not a good measure, this email went to the archive quickly, but 1.5 > hours to go to recipients. I adjusted the monitoring to look at when mailman delivered the

Re: [Savannah-hackers-public] Delays in mail delivery by gnu.org mailing lists

2022-10-11 Thread Ian Kelling
Eli Zaretskii writes: > Here's an example of a message the seems to have been delayed for 1.5 > hours, between 06:46:59 -0400 and 08:13:28 -0400: Thank you for sharing this. Last week was pretty busy and I hadn't had the chance to look at the other email. The monitoring I had setup was looking

Re: [Savannah-hackers-public] Delays in mail delivery by gnu.org mailing lists

2022-10-11 Thread Eli Zaretskii
Here's an example of a message the seems to have been delayed for 1.5 hours, between 06:46:59 -0400 and 08:13:28 -0400: From emacs-devel-bounces+eliz=gnu@gnu.org Tue Oct 11 08:13:30 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: e...@gnu.org Delivery-date: Tue, 11 Oct 2022 08:13:30 -0400 Received:

Re: [Savannah-hackers-public] Delays in mail delivery by gnu.org mailing lists

2022-10-05 Thread Eli Zaretskii
Here's a message I received from emacs-devel that evidently sat in some queue in lists,gnu.org for 20 minutes: From emacs-devel-bounces+eliz=gnu@gnu.org Wed Oct 05 14:18:36 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: e...@gnu.org Delivery-date: Wed, 05 Oct 2022 14:18:36 -0400 Received: from

Re: [Savannah-hackers-public] Delays in mail delivery by gnu.org mailing lists

2022-09-30 Thread Eli Zaretskii
> From: Ian Kelling > Cc: savannah-hackers-public@gnu.org, mail...@gnu.org > Date: Fri, 30 Sep 2022 21:19:50 -0400 > > > Ian Kelling writes: > > > I'm currently working on adding monitoring to detect & quantify these > > delays, then I will work on eliminating them. Thank you for bringing > >

Re: [Savannah-hackers-public] Delays in mail delivery by gnu.org mailing lists

2022-09-30 Thread Ian Kelling
Eli Zaretskii writes: >> From: "Alfred M. Szmidt" >> Cc: mail...@gnu.org, savannah-hackers-public@gnu.org, sysad...@fsf.org >> Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2022 12:34:43 -0400 >> >> Usually, though Savannah hackers are fast, mail related issues is >> handled by the FSF so ... sysad...@gnu.org, CC

Re: [Savannah-hackers-public] Delays in mail delivery by gnu.org mailing lists

2022-09-30 Thread Ian Kelling
Ian Kelling writes: > I'm currently working on adding monitoring to detect & quantify these > delays, then I will work on eliminating them. Thank you for bringing > this up. Update: I wrote and deployed basic monitoring. It alerts me on mailman based delays for public mailing list posts that

Re: [Savannah-hackers-public] Delays in mail delivery by gnu.org mailing lists

2022-09-29 Thread Eli Zaretskii
> From: "Alfred M. Szmidt" > Cc: mail...@gnu.org, savannah-hackers-public@gnu.org, sysad...@fsf.org > Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2022 12:34:43 -0400 > > Usually, though Savannah hackers are fast, mail related issues is > handled by the FSF so ... sysad...@gnu.org, CC forward there. It isn't a problem on

Re: [Savannah-hackers-public] Delays in mail delivery by gnu.org mailing lists

2022-09-29 Thread Ian Kelling
Eli Zaretskii writes: > Lately, mail delivery by gnu.org mailing lists intermittently suffers > from very long delays. For example, currently emacs-devel and > help-gnu-emacs mail is delivered with delays between 45 minutes and > 1.5 hours (based on admittedly small and potentially >

Re: [Savannah-hackers-public] Delays in mail delivery by gnu.org mailing lists

2022-09-29 Thread Alfred M. Szmidt
Lately, mail delivery by gnu.org mailing lists intermittently suffers from very long delays. For example, currently emacs-devel and help-gnu-emacs mail is delivered with delays between 45 minutes and 1.5 hours (based on admittedly small and potentially non-representative sample).

[Savannah-hackers-public] Delays in mail delivery by gnu.org mailing lists

2022-09-28 Thread Eli Zaretskii
Lately, mail delivery by gnu.org mailing lists intermittently suffers from very long delays. For example, currently emacs-devel and help-gnu-emacs mail is delivered with delays between 45 minutes and 1.5 hours (based on admittedly small and potentially non-representative sample). This happens a