[Savannah-register-public] [task #15348] Submission of Free Molecular Dynamics

[Arham Amouei]

Follow-up Comment #19, task #15348 (project administration):

Mature people accept their failures and see the reality as it is, not as one
wishes it to be. The GNU project, though very helpful, was only partially
successful. Now there is no OS that can be called GNU.

Thanks for the review.

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[Savannah-register-public] [task #15348] Submission of Free Molecular Dynamics

[Ineiev]

Update of task #15348 (project administration):

  Status: In Progress => Cancelled  
 Open/Closed:Open => Closed 

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Follow-up Comment #18:

> Respect doesn't justify using misnomers and seeing the reality in a
distorted way. I also have respect for the developers of LibreOffice, X11,
Firefox, etc. But should I include these in the name of the whole system? As
you know, a distribution like Ubuntu or CentOS includes software from
different origins.
> 
> Informed people use the name "Linux distribution" for these Desktop systems
not because Linux makes up the biggest part of the system, but because it is
the heart of the system, the most vital single module. If you are worried that
people may think that the whole system is originated from Mr Torvalds, I will
explain the meaning of the term "Linux distribution" in the documentation,
which is not written yet.

All these points are addressed in the GNU/Linux FAQ
.

> You are right that the phrase "Operating Systems with Linux kernel" includes
Android which is not the target of this package. Adding the modifier "Desktop"
at the beginning may solve it but makes the phrase a little too long!

This also reminds me the argument where the OP said, "a two-legged animal
without feathers and with broad flat nails."

I believe the further discussion is pointless.  We've clearly established that
you don't agree with Savannah hosting requirements.

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[Savannah-register-public] [task #15348] Submission of Free Molecular Dynamics

[Arham Amouei]

Follow-up Comment #17, task #15348 (project administration):

Thanks for the reply.

Okay. So the only remaining point is the system name.

>  "GNU+Linux" will do; if your respect is so great, you could call it just
"GNU". 

Respect doesn't justify using misnomers and seeing the reality in a distorted
way. I also have respect for the developers of LibreOffice, X11, Firefox, etc.
But should I include these in the name of the whole system? As you know, a
distribution like Ubuntu or CentOS includes software from different origins.

Informed people use the name "Linux distribution" for these Desktop systems
not because Linux makes up the biggest part of the system, but because it is
the heart of the system, the most vital single module. If you are worried that
people may think that the whole system is originated from Mr Torvalds, I will
explain the meaning of the term "Linux distribution" in the documentation,
which is not written yet.

You are right that the phrase "Operating Systems with Linux kernel" includes
Android which is not the target of this package. Adding the modifier "Desktop"
at the beginning may solve it but makes the phrase a little too long!

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[Savannah-register-public] [task #15348] Submission of Free Molecular Dynamics

[Ineiev]

Follow-up Comment #16, task #15348 (project administration):

> Actually I'm paying great attention to the notices, thanks to what I've
learned from people like you. But README and the example files do not
constitute the main part of this project. It's very unlikely that one day we
face a dispute over who their exact copyright holders are

Lightning strikes are also very unlikely; however, in certain cases lightning
rods are mandatory, even though they don't always protect from lightning.

> (even if that happens the records in the git repository will settle that).

The records in the git repository typically don't contain the names of
copyright holders.  They record committers and authors (if the committer cares
to write them down), no copyright holders.  Also, the records of the
repository won't help at the point where the repository isn't available.

> I won't insist on using the phrase "The authors of FMD" in the notices of
those files, but it would look awkward if, for example, the names of 10 people
are listed in a short readme file because each of them added one paragraph or
so.

If people made a small addition, copyright notices needn't mention them
 ("In that
case, you should always include a copyright notice in the name of main
copyright holder of the file."); moreover, contributions of 5-6 lines are not
copyrightable at all.

> Two final remarks:
> 1. Despite my really great respect and debt to people who have worked on
GNU, I don't like the term GNU/Linux.

"GNU+Linux" will do; if your respect is so great, you could call it just
"GNU".

> I'm going to use phrases like "Operating Systems with Linux kernel"

Does your package really depend on Linux more than on GNU?  I guess, the users
would have less issues with running it on top of GNU/kFreeBSD or maybe even
GNU/Hurd than on top of Android, wouldn't they?

> 2. We may have more than one host for this project (2 hosts are enough). I
hope this isn't against your rules. The git repositories on all hosts will
always be up-to-date.

Yes, using additional external facilities is up to you.

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