Re: [SC-L] BSIMM-V Article in Application Development Times

2014-01-22 Thread Stephen de Vries
For anyone interested in this topic and working in appsec and/or dev, there’s a survey by the trusted software alliance which touches on some of these questions here: https://www.surveymonkey.com/s/Developers_and_AppSec > On Jan 7, 2014, at 8:07 PM, Christian Heinrich > wrote: > >> Steph

Re: [SC-L] BSIMM-V Article in Application Development Times

2014-01-08 Thread John Steven
Christian, (Stephen) I’ll confess I’ve only skimmed the discussion but it looks productive. The questions posed are good ones. I’ll try to provide a few clarifications from “inside” the BSIMM study that may be helpful in pushing the discussion along: 1) Survey structure/technique attributes BSI

Re: [SC-L] BSIMM-V Article in Application Development Times

2014-01-08 Thread Christian Heinrich
Stephen, On Sat, Jan 4, 2014 at 8:12 PM, Stephen de Vries wrote: > Leaving the definition of agile aside for the moment, doesn’t the fact that > the BSIMM measures > organisation wide activities but not individual dev teams mean that we could > be drawing inaccurate > conclusions from the data?

Re: [SC-L] BSIMM-V Article in Application Development Times

2014-01-07 Thread Stephen de Vries
Hi Sammy, Antti, On 20 Dec 2013, at 17:29, Sammy Migues wrote: > Also, in nearly all cases, it would be very hard to characterize an entire > firm or even an entire business unit in larger firms as "Agile" or not. Many > larger firms use "Agile" for only a small percentage of projects Leav

Re: [SC-L] BSIMM-V Article in Application Development Times

2013-12-21 Thread Sammy Migues
rough various parts of their waterfall process. Cheers, --Sammy. -Original Message- From: SC-L [mailto:sc-l-boun...@securecoding.org] On Behalf Of Stephen de Vries Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2013 5:21 AM To: Gary McGraw Cc: Secure Code Mailing List Subject: Re: [SC-L] BSIMM-V Article

Re: [SC-L] BSIMM-V Article in Application Development Times

2013-12-20 Thread Antti Vähä-Sipilä
> In the current BSIMM-V dataset is it possible to narrow the data down to only > organisations practising Agile dev? I think it would be interesting to see > which BSIMM activities are popular with agile houses, and which not. One of the reasons not to do this is that publishing data that woul

Re: [SC-L] BSIMM-V Article in Application Development Times

2013-12-17 Thread Stephen de Vries
On 13 Dec 2013, at 22:51, Gary McGraw wrote: > > From time to time we talk about getting to the dev community here. This > article is at least in the right publication! > > Read it and pass it on: > http://adtmag.com/blogs/watersworks/2013/12/bsimm-v-released.aspx Hi Gary, In the current B

[SC-L] BSIMM-V Article in Application Development Times

2013-12-17 Thread Gary McGraw
hi sc-l, >From time to time we talk about getting to the dev community here. This >article is at least in the right publication! Read it and pass it on: http://adtmag.com/blogs/watersworks/2013/12/bsimm-v-released.aspx Salubrious solstice! One week and one day to go. gem __