Re: [SC-L] BSIMM: Confessions of a Software SecurityAlchemist(informIT)

2009-03-21 Thread Florian Weimer
* Steven M. Christey: > Two areas that don't seem to immediately lend themselves to design/spec > level solutions are (1) transitive trust and (2) interaction errors > between multiple components that are all working correctly. I'd love to > hear from people who've had to solve these problems in

Re: [SC-L] BSIMM: Confessions of a Software SecurityAlchemist(informIT)

2009-03-21 Thread ljknews
At 11:41 PM -0400 3/20/09, Gary McGraw wrote: > once long ago I spilt a bottle of wine with dan geer > we argued for hours about whether a buffer overflow was > a bug or a flaw. if you find one in a code pile (say, > caused by a local variable on the stack and a gets call) , > it is a bug. Or i

Re: [SC-L] Announcing LAMN: Legion Against Meaningless certificatioNs

2009-03-21 Thread Joe Teff
I notice certs like CISSP when hiring. It says the person has a basic understanding of all IS security areas. Nothing more. If someone can't pass the CISSP then I have to wonder why. -Original Message- From: Paco Hope To: "SC-L@securecoding.org" Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2009 11:36:45 -0

Re: [SC-L] BSIMM: Confessions of a Software Security Alchemist(informIT)

2009-03-21 Thread Gary McGraw
hi all, my preference is to lead with an Architectural Risk Analysis (and has been since 1997). gem http://www.cigital.com/~gem On 3/20/09 3:07 PM, "Jim Manico" wrote: This is why I'm not fond if leading with a tool. I prefer to lead with architectural/design analysis and targeted manual r

Re: [SC-L] BSIMM: Confessions of a Software SecurityAlchemist(informIT)

2009-03-21 Thread Gary McGraw
hi pub, once long ago I spilt a bottle of wine with dan geer in Palo Alto to lament his dead disk drive. we decided the conference sucked anyway and proceeded to the Cowper. we argued for hours about whether a buffer overflow was a bug or a flaw. if you find one in a code pile (say, caused b

Re: [SC-L] BSIMM: Confessions of a Software SecurityAlchemist(informIT)

2009-03-21 Thread Gunnar Peterson
> > Two areas that don't seem to immediately lend themselves to design/ > spec > level solutions are (1) transitive trust and (2) interaction errors > between multiple components that are all working correctly. I'd > love to > hear from people who've had to solve these problems in the real worl