Re: [SC-L] On exploits, hubris, and software security

2006-11-03 Thread Gary McGraw
Friday, November 03, 2006 12:50 PM To: Gary McGraw Cc: SC-L@securecoding.org Subject: Re: [SC-L] On exploits, hubris, and software security Gary McGraw wrote: > The main thing I wonder is, what do you think? When you have a hot > demonstration of an exploit, how do you responsibly releas

Re: [SC-L] On exploits, hubris, and software security

2006-11-03 Thread Blue Boar
Gary McGraw wrote: > The main thing I wonder is, what do you think? When you have a hot > demonstration of an exploit, how do you responsibly release it? What > role do such demonstrations play in moving software security forward? To pick one extreme, I believe there are times when intentionally

Re: [SC-L] On exploits, hubris, and software security

2006-11-03 Thread Blue Boar
Gary McGraw wrote: > Later, we could disclose the problems responsibly, keeping a short leash > on Microsoft, Netscape, and Sun without ever resorting to FULL > disclosure. Our goal was to get the problems fixed with no nonsense. > The companies also allowed the press to be responsibly involved.

Re: [SC-L] On exploits, hubris, and software security

2006-11-03 Thread SC-L Subscriber Dave Aronson
Gary McGraw [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > The main thing I wonder is, what do you think? When you have a hot > demonstration of an exploit, how do you responsibly release it? This isn't so much about that, in the usual sense. This was, as you say, a well-known vulnerability, one screamingl

[SC-L] On exploits, hubris, and software security

2006-11-03 Thread Gary McGraw
Hi all, We all know that there is nothing more powerful for causing software security change than a flashy exploit demonstration. Once again, this has come to the fore in the actions of an IU student who took a well known boarding pass vulnerability and wrote a script to make it real. Just after