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From: Crispin Cowan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 09 July 2004 04:27
To: Peter Amey
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Subject: Re: [SC-L] Education and security -- another perspective (was
ACM Queue - Content)
Peter Amey wrote:
What is wrong with this
Peter Amey wrote:
What is wrong with this picture ?
I see both of you willing to mandate the teaching of C and yet not
mandate the teaching of any of Ada, Pascal, PL/I etc.
Makes sense to me. what is the point of teaching dead languages like
Ada, Pascal, and PL/I? Teach C, Assembler, and
Peter Amey wrote:
Firstly a tactical one: Ada is by no means a dead language. There is a great tendency in our industry to
regard whatever is in first place at any particular point in life's race to be the winner and
everything else to be dead.
Ada was pushed hard enough by the DoD for a decade
Hello,
I'm currently trying to make an article on Secure Coding for the french
section on Wikipédia. So if you speak french you can go to :
http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Programmation_s%C3%A9curis%C3%A9e
And if you don't speak french, you can also help me by sending your
ideas here. I will try
Crispin Cowan wrote:
In programming language terms, Ada is grossly primitive. Its object
orientation mechanisms are crude at best. A *great* deal of progress in
language technology has been made since Ada was developed. For just
about any kind of concept or safety feature, students and
I think the discussion regarding the thread
Re: [SC-L] Education and security -- another perspective
(was ACMQueue - Content)
is in part becoming a debate of language X vs language Y. Instead,
I'd like to take this thread off into another direction (if Ken
thinks it's appropriate to
At 8:49 AM -0500 7/9/04, Wall, Kevin wrote:
If a GENERAL PURPOSE programming language were designed by
scratch by someone who was both a security expert and
programming language expert, what would this language (and
it's environment) look like?
More specifically,
+ What set
David Crocker wrote...
There is a tendency to regard every programming problem as an
O-O problem. Sometime last year I read a thread on some
programming newsgroup in which contributors argued about the
correct way to write a truly O-O Hello world program. All
the solutions provided were
At 2:26 PM +0100 7/9/04, David Crocker wrote:
And much as I dislike Ada, I have to admit that if you don't
intend to use dynamic binding and don't need the low-level features of C,...
Which are those low-level features not available with Ada ?
The C compilers I have used claim to be
Hello,
I'm not a secure coding expert, so my point of view is more from a
developper view.
+ What functionality should the accompanying libraries support
(e.g., encryption, access control, etc.)?
In my opinion, it's the most important things for a languages, something
to easily
ljknews wrote:
Such typing should include specification by the programmer of the range
of values allowed in variables: -32767 to +32767, 0 to 100, 1 to 100,
Characters a-z only, characters A-Z only, -10.863 to +4.368, etc.
The language should also support exact specification of arithmetic
I think there are two other questions that should be asked before trying to
answer this:
1. Is it appropriate to look for a single general purpose programming
language? Consider the following application areas:
a) Application packages
b) Operating systems, device drivers, network protocol stacks
David Crocker wrote:
1. Is it appropriate to look for a single general purpose programming
language? Consider the following application areas:
a) Application packages
b) Operating systems, device drivers, network protocol stacks etc.
c) Real-time embedded software
The features you need for these
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