Re: [SC-L] virtual server - security

2004-03-31 Thread Fernando Schapachnik
Working for an ISP in a previous life we used FreeBSD jails. There are kind-of-similar solutions for linux also (there's actually people in the list who sell them even). Good luck. En un mensaje anterior, Serban Gh. Ghita escribió: Hello I am banging my head on the table every day, because i

Re: [SC-L] Andy Tanenbaum on Linux's origins and security

2004-05-30 Thread Fernando Schapachnik
En un mensaje anterior, Kenneth R. van Wyk escribió: Andy Tanenbaum, the author of the MINIX operating system, recently posted an opinion piece on the origins of Linux. It's a fascinating albeit somewhat lengthy read -- see http://www.cs.vu.nl/~ast/brown/ for the full text. People

Re: [SC-L] Education and security -- another perspective (was ACM Queue - Content)

2004-07-05 Thread Fernando Schapachnik
En un mensaje anterior, der Mouse escribió: In general, I don't think this is an issue that is unique to _secure_ programming (coding, design, etc.). I think over the past 40 years or so, as a discipline, we've failed rather miserably at teaching programming, period. Right. But on the

Re: [SC-L] Education and security -- another perspective (was ACM Queue - Content)

2004-07-06 Thread Fernando Schapachnik
En un mensaje anterior, der Mouse escribió: I think over the past 40 years or so, as a discipline, we've failed rather miserably at teaching programming, period. Right. But on the other hand, that's not surprising - [because we've mostly not even _tried_ to teach programming, as opposed

Re: [SC-L] Education and security -- another perspective (was ACM Queue - Content)

2004-07-08 Thread Fernando Schapachnik
En un mensaje anterior, ljknews escribió: At 1:56 PM -0700 7/7/04, Dana Epp wrote: I don't pick C for C's sake. I choose C because ON AVERAGE, most students will be exposed to C more than the languages you suggest. Especially in the majority on industries hiring students out of university.

Re: [SC-L] Education and security -- another perspective (was ACM Queue - Content)

2004-07-12 Thread Fernando Schapachnik
En un mensaje anterior, Blue Boar escribió: Fernando Schapachnik wrote: I smell a discusion going nowhere. What is the point of teaching a languague? Teach them to program in a paradigm (better, in all of them, and give them the tools to make educated choices about which is better for each