Re: [SC-L] InformIT: budgeting for software security

2008-04-12 Thread Jim Manico
No, there is not a direct connection but Green and InfoSec do have a few 
degrees of connection.


InfoSec - Is a part of - IT - manages - Datacenters - suck up 3% of 
word power - is becoming more expensive -  Green -  Al Gore


  RSA conferences *were *focused on infosec, and on cryptography in 
particular


RSA is a Marketing/Fluff event - As Gary pointed out, there is a 1000-1 
Marketer vs attendee ratio. Case and point: SANS is teaching there now! :D


- Jim


Jim,

In response to Stephen's question, you wrote...

  

What does 'green technology' have to do with infosec?
  
Data centerers worldwide use at least 3% of all global electricity. With 
the growing cost of oil/power - most large corporations are looking for 
ways to reduce power consumption at their data centers. Google is 
building new database centers near cheap power, cheap land, and cheap 
water. Sun has bet the farm on Green issues. IBM and Intel have 
green/sustainability departments as well.


http://www.baselinemag.com/c/a/Infrastructure/Disruptive-Forces-Sun-Microsystems/



Maybe I need someone to connect the dots for me, but IMO, your response
_still_ doesn't adequately answer Stephen's question.

You addressed why 'green technology' is good in general and why businesses
are pursuing it, but not what it has to do w/ information security. Certainly,
if there is a connection here, is is not a direct one.

I don't want to speak for Stephen (but will anyways ;-), but I think it's unfair
to interpret his remark as implying that green technology is bad or some sort
of voodoo. In the context, I think his concern was that in the past, the RSA
conferences were focused on infosec, and on cryptography in particular. 
Apparently,
based on Stephen and gem's comments, it seems to have lost its focus. I think
that's all that was being implied here.

-kevin
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Re: [SC-L] InformIT: budgeting for software security

2008-04-11 Thread ljknews
At 8:14 AM -0500 4/11/08, Wall, Kevin wrote:

 In the context, I think his concern was that in the past, the RSA
 conferences were focused on infosec, and on cryptography in particular. 
 Apparently,
 based on Stephen and gem's comments, it seems to have lost its focus. I think
 that's all that was being implied here.

Some years ago at an RSA Conference I recall seeing Jefferson
Starship.  At least one song had altered lyrics for the GAK
issue of the year, but that was not a whole lot of security
content in a general session.
-- 
Larry Kilgallen
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Re: [SC-L] InformIT: budgeting for software security

2008-04-11 Thread Gary McGraw
Hi all,

Larry has it right.  There was very little technical content at RSA this year.  
All of the vendors on the show floor had pitches that sounded exactly the same. 
 Last year there was much more software security presence.

The good news for our field is that at the (small) executive forum, there was a 
fair amount of discussion of software security.  Justin Peavey from Omgeo put 
together a panel on software security that I helped with.  That was good.

Now attempting to fly home on the united cattle call cart.

Moo

gem

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At 8:14 AM -0500 4/11/08, Wall, Kevin wrote:

 In the context, I think his concern was that in the past, the RSA
 conferences were focused on infosec, and on cryptography in particular. 
 Apparently,
 based on Stephen and gem's comments, it seems to have lost its focus. I think
 that's all that was being implied here.

Some years ago at an RSA Conference I recall seeing Jefferson
Starship.  At least one song had altered lyrics for the GAK
issue of the year, but that was not a whole lot of security
content in a general session.
--
Larry Kilgallen
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