On 5/5/21 5:21 PM, Konstantin Olchanski wrote:
On Tue, May 04, 2021 at 11:00:00PM +0100, Andrew C Aitchison wrote:
On Tue, 4 May 2021, Konstantin Olchanski wrote:
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(OK, C++20 support in g++ 10.2.1 is "experimental).
And so what?
I can take SL-6 and graft modern versions of all
On 05/05/2021 23:13, Konstantin Olchanski wrote:
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> Things seem to be much quieter and event-less in the BSD and Debian (& co)
> camps.
I greatly fear that the BSDs are gradually losing the battle to keep up
with Linux in terms of newer features and support for certain classes of
hardware. It
On 05/05/2021 23:53, Yasha Karant wrote:
> From the list you reference below, I find
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> Amazon Web Services
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> (AWS) is *NOT* a small (market share, startup, etc) for-profit entity.
> Is AWS looking at an alternative to licensing IBM RH EL that AWS can
> use without any license for fee? AWS has
Dave,
From the list you reference below, I find
Amazon Web Services
(AWS) is *NOT* a small (market share, startup, etc) for-profit entity.
Is AWS looking at an alternative to licensing IBM RH EL that AWS can use
without any license for fee? AWS has ample internal technical staff to
What you describe -- replacing a distro's utilities by those from other
than the distro -- is done in practice for *SOME* things, as most on
this list do. However, under no condition should this be called a
stable distro, let alone an "enterprise hardened stable" distro, without
the amount of
Jack,
As James Pulver mentioned, I have seen a much larger slice of the
community get behind Rocky than Alma. They took longer to get their
first release candidate out (which is available now, although I don't
think I have seen that mentioned on this list) because they're putting a
lot of effort
On Tue, May 04, 2021 at 11:00:00PM +0100, Andrew C Aitchison wrote:
> On Tue, 4 May 2021, Konstantin Olchanski wrote:
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> >- first slide of "distribution landscape" is nonsense,
> >with everybody stuck with el7 for another 3 years and
> >bye, bye, c++14, c++17, c++20.
>
> Is Red Hat Developer
On Mon, May 03, 2021 at 05:54:35PM -0400, Jack Aboutboul wrote:
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> I am a long time Fedora person and now the community manager of AlmaLinux.
>
Hi, Jack - good to hear from AlmaLinux. I wish you and your project best luck
and speedy progress.
I do not think of Alma Linux, Rocky Linux, etc as
On Tue, May 04, 2021 at 10:57:11AM +, Jose Marques wrote:
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> My view is that Stream is exactly what RHEL say it is, a development
> distribution to which 3rd parties can contribute to RHEL development and from
> which 3rd parties can base their own distributions. It's not for end users,
>
The person doing test installs here of RHEL 8.3 wasn't any happier.
It feels like a lot of the Linux developers are all trying to beat Windows and
MacOS at their own games. Barf.
From: owner-scientific-linux-us...@listserv.fnal.gov
on behalf of Larry Linder
Thank you for your explicit and detailed observations. I have
observations for Ubuntu LTS -- but with much fewer issues when going
from SL 7 to Ubuntu 20.04 LTS and nothing like using a carryover from a
Convex machine. Ubuntu 20.04 LTS respected the non-systems partitions
(such as
Another linux installation and test.
AlmaLinux 8.3
1. The first thing we noticed is that the displays were backward. 2 is
on the left 1 is on the right. It maters because when you use VMware
and multiple OS - just another pain.
2. When you do an install it all on the right hand monitor and
First off, IBM, the big company, has nothing to do with any of Red Hat
development. We (Red Hat) are a completely separate company whose profits
go to IBM. We have a completely separate legal staff, health care,
management, engineers, policies, everything. So, quit saying that we (Red
Hat) get
On Tue, 4 May 2021, Yasha Karant wrote:
I fully concur -- a clear statement of a concern about the source and any
authentication/pay-walls limiting access to that source. I assume that the
official rebuilders other than SL have paid the necessary fees to download
the real, actual, production
You stated:
all sorts of tests that we can't do in
public, and make tweaks and changes that we can't do in public. This is
mainly due to hardware NDA's, and security stuff.
End excerpt.
1. Are these NDA enabled tweaks, changes, and tests that are in the
production releases of IBM RH EL
On Tue, May 4, 2021 at 10:01 AM Yasha Karant wrote:
> If I correctly have read the RH EL9 CentOS announcement below, EL 9
> will be in production before the end of this year, leapfrogging EL 8 as
> it were.
>
I just want to clean up one point, because it seems you mis-understood the
If I understand your (Leon) interpretation of the IBM RH EULA, those who
*START* from the actual, official, IBM RH source used for IBM RH EL, not
that which is released currently as CentOS, violates that EULA. Before
CentOS became part of RH, later IBM RH, ("became part" is a WTO legal
On 5/4/21 3:38 PM, James M. Pulver wrote:
Maybe the AlmaLinux reddit (might also be one for Rocky?
Both Alma and Rocky have fairly active reddits.
On 05.05.21 01:11, Mark Rousell wrote:
On 04/05/2021 23:41, Leon Fauster wrote:
The source are at
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