Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Glen Turman original Han Solo?

I agree. That is kind of what I was thinking about when I replied. The existence of life on this planet, and how humans evolved, etc. all contributed to you being here right now. Not to mention the random events that may have happened in your life to make you who you are. On Tue, Nov 3, 2009 at 10

Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Glen Turman original Han Solo?

You all assume that there would be an alternate you. The percentages of genetic material traded during conception is a random concept. This supposed theme assumes we as persnalities would be intact. We assume too much I think... c w m - Keith Johnson wrote: I

Re: [scifinoir2] Re: EW review of V

I am convinced they are aliens anyway... (will and halle) c w m - Mr. Worf wrote: I would be down with them from word one, but I don't know about white America. I am sure that if they were "pretty" that many folks would be conflicted. I think their initial look

Re: [scifinoir2] Re: EW review of V

I would be down with them from word one, but I don't know about white America. I am sure that if they were "pretty" that many folks would be conflicted. I think their initial looks would make a huge difference. On Tue, Nov 3, 2009 at 9:45 PM, Kelwyn wrote: > What if they were of African-American

[scifinoir2] Re: EW review of V

In Arthur C. Clarke's take on "benign" aliens, "Childhood's End," the aliens grant humans a golden age of great peace and prosperity ever known, albeit at the expense of some creativity and freedom - but don't show themselves for 50 years. When the Overlords appear in person, they resemble the

[scifinoir2] Re: EW review of V

The Ewok Conundrum. --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, "Mr. Worf" wrote: > > Or even worse is that they would all look like cute little teddy bears. > > The Teddy Supreme Commander - "We will eat your children, drink your blood, > and destroy your world!" > > Soldier - "I'm scared but when he s

[scifinoir2] Re: EW review of V

What if they were of African-American descent but looked like Will Smith and Halle Berry? --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, "Mr. Worf" wrote: > > My question is would you be accepting of them if they were a different race > other than white? What if they looked Asian or Middle Eastern? Or heave

[scifinoir2] o/t Fury over California's Proposed TV Rules

http://www.businessweek.com/the_thread/techbeat/archives/2009/11/fury_over_calif.html Its about a law that boycotts flatscreen tvs that use a lot of electricity.

Re: [scifinoir2] EW review of V

Or even worse is that they would all look like cute little teddy bears. The Teddy Supreme Commander - "We will eat your children, drink your blood, and destroy your world!" Soldier - "I'm scared but when he says its just so cute" On Tue, Nov 3, 2009 at 8:53 PM, Omari Confer wrote: > >

Re: [scifinoir2] Re: The original V

I am waiting until tomorrow to start in on it. On Tue, Nov 3, 2009 at 8:28 PM, Omari Confer wrote: > > > I am not sure if i should watch the original before seeing the new one. > > > On Tue, Nov 3, 2009 at 6:16 PM, Mr. Worf wrote: > >> >> >> The original mini-series was well done. Watching

Re: [scifinoir2] Feds Charge Cable Modem Modder With ‘Aiding Computer Intrusion’

Viva la revolution! On Tue, Nov 3, 2009 at 12:35 PM, Martin Baxter wrote: > > > Sounds as though the revolution is gaining steam. > > > "If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in > bloody hell hired the director?" -- Charles L Grant > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQ

Re: [scifinoir2] EW review of V

That is an interesting question. I think African looking aliens would cause a stir. Half of the world would think black folks are aliens and the other half will realize that we might be related to aliens. but in all seriousness If I wanted to enslave the human race I would make sure I was a h

Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Glen Turman original Han Solo?

I think the idea is that if you venture too far from the basic pattern--the species, etc.--it's no longer "you". After all, the idea is parallel universes--alternate realities. So, you could, in some universe, be a gay cowboy running dilithium ore on a space barge, but the genetic makeup would

Re: [scifinoir2] Re: The original V

I am not sure if i should watch the original before seeing the new one. On Tue, Nov 3, 2009 at 6:16 PM, Mr. Worf wrote: > > > The original mini-series was well done. Watching it again from the > beginning was a nice refresher. The tv series had a much lower budget and a > much smaller cast w

[scifinoir2] Re: Harvard Offering Course on HBO Hit 'The Wire'

Too true. Luckily Wendell Pierce gets to work on Simon's next series Treme. Dominic West, Lance Reddick and Idris Elba has landed on their feet as well. Unfortunately most of the other folks seem to be relegated to guest spots on various shows. --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, "Mr. Worf" w

[scifinoir2] Lust:Caution - cinema we can believe in

http://blackplush.blogspot.com/2009/11/lustcaution-cinema-we-can-believe-in.html Has anybody seen Ang Lee's "Lust:Caution"? There is a scene near the end of the movie (which is 157 minutes long and as deadly as paint drying until folks start taking their clothes off about three quarters of the

Re: [scifinoir2] EW review of V

My question is would you be accepting of them if they were a different race other than white? What if they looked Asian or Middle Eastern? Or heaven help us, of African decent? Would they be as trusting? On Tue, Nov 3, 2009 at 7:02 PM, Kelwyn wrote: > The first paragraph of Entertainment Weekly'

Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Glen Turman original Han Solo?

Exactly! There could be so many other alternate versions. Would they still be "you??" What if he went to an alternate universe and he was his anti-matter self? Or instead of humans evolving from something similar to apes, we were evolved from caterpillars or wolves? On Tue, Nov 3, 2009 at 6:59 PM,

RE: [scifinoir2] Keith, I believe that you asked what Pat Boone was up to...

Oh, yeah. "If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director?" -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: keithbjohn...@comcast.net Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2009 03:07:01 + Subject: Re: [sc

RE: [scifinoir2] Teen Titans: Blackest Night

No, rave. That's a funny angle on her, making he rloook darker-skinned than she is. Dove is one pale little thang. "If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director?" -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifin

RE: [scifinoir2] Growing number watching TV on-line only

I admit to being in this number, as a result of my increasingly bad memory making me forget when shows air. "If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director?" -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@ya

RE: [scifinoir2] Glen Turman original Han Solo?

Would've loved to have seen this one come to light. "If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director?" -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: ravena...@yahoo.com Date: Tue, 3 Nov

RE: [scifinoir2] Re: Glen Turman original Han Solo?

Hey Rave: I’m pretty sure Will Smith turned it down, just like Jet Li turned down a part in it. They wanted Smith first. At least that is how I remember Smith and Jada telling it in interviews. From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Mr. Worf

[scifinoir2] Re: Teen Titans: Blackest Night

Testy much? LOL I think we might be looking at two different books. The Blackest Night: Titans cover features a battle damaged Dove(blue and white suit with white hair) but the Teen Titans cover features Raven(black outfit). Which one were you talking about? Are you referring to Storm's movi

[scifinoir2] EW review of V

The first paragraph of Entertainment Weekly's review of "V": A shrewd take on both sci-fi and the media, V is an excellently acted what-if-aliens-landed show, a savvy updating of the 1983 cult miniseries. The premise is irresistible: What if the aliens looked hot and promised friendship and ad

Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Glen Turman original Han Solo?

I don't think every reality's Law was a skilled martial artist, just the one with the good cop and the bad cop. The convict Law (the one who was killed during a transfer) simply kicked in the bars of a cell because he was supper strong. As for your alternate selves being radically different fro

Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Glen Turman original Han Solo?

I had problems with the idea of "the One." Every universe won't have the same guy with the same martial art skills etc. on that planet. There are so many variables that the variables themselves would be infinite as well. For example there could be a planet that has a look alike that is stronger and

Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Glen Turman original Han Solo?

People are funny (and racist) and I do not think that Star Wars would have been as popular with a black Han Solo. I don't think that there would have been such large numbers of women swooning over him like the did with Harrison Ford. There are a lot of movies that would have been completely diffe

Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Syfy Buys Remake of Being Human

You are right. Maybe Hollywood is copying them in some weird way? Porn has been doing parodies of just about everything for years. Everything from the Cosby show (This ain't the Cosby show) to the Brady Bunch (This aint the Brady bunch) to the Octomom to Sarah Palin (Nailin Palin) to Star Trek. The

Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Glen Turman original Han Solo?

Was Seraph the messenger dude who fought Neo "so he could really know him"? Not the biggest lost. "The One" is one of my fav scifi movies of recent years. It's not the greatest, by any means, but it's fun, has some good action, and enough intelligently written scifi to make it engaging. I have

Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Teen Titans: Blackest Night

The two blackest night covers i saw had a dead blonde titan kissing Beast Boy and one with her hands up controlling rock..sounds like terra to me On Tue, Nov 3, 2009 at 4:52 PM, B Smith wrote: > > > It's Dove. Her former partner Hawk/Monarch/Extant becoming one of the Black > Lanterns is par

Re: [scifinoir2] Feds Charge Cable Modem Modder With ‘Aiding Computer Intrusion’

What fascinates me is that one can modify a modem to gain higher speed. Makes you think about how long it takes upgrades to officially trickle down to users, eh? - Original Message - From: "Mr. Worf" To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, November 3, 2009 2:58:34 PM GMT -05:0

RE: [scifinoir2] Michigan Man stuffs mouth with 16 cockroaches in record bid

(soothing images, pal... Isabella...) "If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director?" -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: astromancer2...@yahoo.com Date: Mon, 2 Nov 2009 20:

[scifinoir2] Re: Teen Titans: Blackest Night

It's Dove. Her former partner Hawk/Monarch/Extant becoming one of the Black Lanterns is part of the storyline. Also Terra was a blonde and Dove has white/silver hair and the costume is very different. The original Terra is also one of the Black Lanterns. Apparently there is a new Terra and sh

Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Glen Turman original Han Solo?

At the time the Wochowski brothers were not well known and this was their first big film. But I think if things were different it would have been incredible. Aliah, Will Smith? Wow. On Tue, Nov 3, 2009 at 6:04 AM, Augustus Augustus wrote: > > > but Rave, i thought the Will turned down Matrix bec

[scifinoir2] Feds Charge Cable Modem Modder With ‘Aiding Comput er Intrusion’

Feds Charge Cable Modem Modder With ‘Aiding Computer Intrusion’ - By Kevin Poulsen [image: Email Author] - November 2, 2009 | - 9:47 pm | - Categories: Cybersecurity,

RE: [scifinoir2] Go See Astro Boy

I'm in the boat with you, pal. Just got paid fifteen hours ago, and I'm already too far under even to consider going to the movies this month. "If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director?" -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?

Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Syfy Buys Remake of Being Human

Thanks Kelwyn. The ol' hedgehog has been busy for years. You'd think he would have retired by now but I think he still does a few movies a year. Nina Hartley was retired a while but got into education and now with a market for older women she has a whole new career. On Tue, Nov 3, 2009 at 12:12 PM

RE: [scifinoir2] Fed s Charge Cable Modem Modder With ‘Aiding Computer Intrusion’

Sounds as though the revolution is gaining steam. "If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director?" -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: hellomahog...@gmail.com Date: Tue, 3 No

Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Glen Turman original Han Solo?

Now the combination of Will Smith and Val Kilmer wouldn't have worked for me. I don't think that Val Kilmer would have worked as Morpheus. However, I still have problems with computer geeks doing mental martial arts and saving the world. :) On Tue, Nov 3, 2009 at 12:41 PM, B Smith wrote: > Suppo

[scifinoir2] Re: Fringe losing audience on Thursdays

This move really didn't make sense but we are talking about Fox. They love to move solid performing shows to other nights and timeslots. --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, "Mr. Worf" wrote: > > The moving shows around is moronic to me. I understand moving a show if it > is not doing good in a pa

Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Fringe losing audience on Thursdays

The moving shows around is moronic to me. I understand moving a show if it is not doing good in a particular time slot, but the concept of putting it against a show that has a similar audience and forcing them to choose is just stupid to me. There have been a ton of good shows that have gone to an

[scifinoir2] The original V

I have been watching the original V rebroadcast on syfy. Watching the show I can see many of the sets that were used on STNG, Space 1999, and other shows that took me down a scifi memory lane. :) I also noticed one of the subplots was used in Independence day. --

[scifinoir2] Re: Syfy Buys Remake of Being Human

I laugh at your last paragraph because it is funny and I laugh at your last paragraph because it is true. This, more than anything, validates my core belief: the Redoubtable Science of Paradox (everything one believes is something else altogether). I salute you on your voluminous knowledge of

[scifinoir2] Re: Glen Turman original Han Solo?

Supposedly Will was their Neo and Val Kilmer was Morpheus. Both ended up bowing out of the film. I think Jet Li turned down the role of Seraph to do The One. I also read that he was concerned that the amount of time needed to film both sequels would cause other conflicts. --- In scifinoir2@yah

RE: [scifinoir2] DVR , Once TV’s Mortal F oe, Helps Ratings

May the cable companies end in thirst. "If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director?" -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: hellomahog...@gmail.com Date: Mon, 2 Nov 2009 19:4

Re: [scifinoir2] Feds Charge Cable Modem Modder With ‘Aiding Computer Intrusion’

Yea, Webtv used that technology 10 years ago to add speed to their systems. It was a good idea and still is. The problem is that the game is different now. Some areas are worse than others but I am sure that you have heard the problems that people have ran into with throttling down and limiting the

[scifinoir2] Re: The original V

The original mini-series was well done. Watching it again from the beginning was a nice refresher. The tv series had a much lower budget and a much smaller cast which made it feel more like the A-Team vs the aliens. On Tue, Nov 3, 2009 at 2:14 PM, Mr. Worf wrote: > I have been watching the origi

[scifinoir2] CNBC Reporter Doesn't Think Naturalized Americans Are Really Americans

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/11/03/referring-to-marathon-win_n_343772.html Referring To Marathon Winner As "Technically American" Has Become A Disturbing Trend [UPDATE] It really takes a special kind of irredeemable pigheadedness to read about American marathon runner Meb Keflezighi's vic

Re: [scifinoir2] Teen Titans: Blackest Night

I think that might be Terraand not Dove. c w m On Tue, Nov 3, 2009 at 2:54 PM, Martin Baxter wrote: > > > No, rave. That's a funny angle on her, making he rloook darker-skinned than > she is. Dove is one pale little thang. > > > "If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players,

RE: [scifinoir2] Re: Keith, I believe that you asked what Pat Boone was up to...

Keith, I think you once said, "Now I know why he wears white bucks..." This all reads as a really amusing sub-text to the Implosion of the Right. Can't wait to see who plays who in the movie. "If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director?

[scifinoir2] Re: Syfy Buys Remake of Being Human

As I was surfing through the gamut of pay movie channels I subscribe to the other night, I stumbled across the Adult Film News Awards (AVNs). I mention this because nobody does remakes like the adult film industry ("Saving Ryan's Privates," anyone?). I was so distraught when "The Night of Givi

[scifinoir2] Re: Teen Titans: Blackest Night

Yeah, yeah, but to answer my question - white hair, skin tight black suit - Stormesque, no? ~rave? --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Justin Mohareb wrote: > > God, I never noticed that! Characters with skim tight costumes in a > superhero comic! > > Justin > > On 2009-11-03, at 11:20 AM,

Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Teen Titans: Blackest Night

God, I never noticed that! Characters with skim tight costumes in a superhero comic! Justin On 2009-11-03, at 11:20 AM, "Kelwyn" wrote: Do I mean "Dove"? Seriously, doesn't this character with her white hair and skin-tight black suit, look like "Storm"? ~rave? --- In scifinoir2@yahoogr

[scifinoir2] Re: Teen Titans: Blackest Night

VINCENT: ...You know what they call a Quarter Pounder with Cheese in Paris? JULES: What'd they call it? VINCENT: Royale with Cheese. JULES: What do they call a Whopper? VINCENT: I dunno, I didn't go into a Burger King. ~Pulp Fiction Q. Did you know Dove's been around in one form or anothe

[scifinoir2] Re: Teen Titans: Blackest Night

Do I mean "Dove"? Seriously, doesn't this character with her white hair and skin-tight black suit, look like "Storm"? ~rave? --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Justin Mohareb wrote: > > You mean.. Dove? > > Seriously, I have no idea what your question is. > > Justin > > On Tue, Nov 3, 2009

[scifinoir2] Re: Glen Turman original Han Solo?

But, Fate, the serendipity is in Mr. Smith turning down the opportunity to play Mr. Anderson. ~rave! --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Augustus Augustus wrote: > > but Rave, i thought the Will turned down Matrix because he was about 2 do > Wild Wild West?  at least that is what he said when

Re: [scifinoir2] Michigan Man stuffs mouth with 16 cockroaches in record bid

Uggh! the thougth appalls... - Original Message - From: "C.W. Badie" To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, November 2, 2009 11:24:10 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Michigan Man stuffs mouth with 16 cockroaches in record bid   ...And we t

[scifinoir2] Re: Fringe losing audience on Thursdays

It's also going head to head with Supernatural and that's probably hurting both shows. I have all of this season's episodes on dvr but I haven't seen any of them. --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, "Mr. Worf" wrote: > > I think that as the show progresses it has lost a bit of the wonderment. It

[scifinoir2] Re: Teen Titans: Blackest Night

Dove's been around in one form or another since the 60s and the female version has been around since the late 80s. He powers and character are nothing like Storm. Is it the white hair? --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Justin Mohareb wrote: > > You mean.. Dove? > > Seriously, I have no ide

[scifinoir2] Re: Glen Turman original Han Solo?

Barry Sonnenfeld was the director of MIB and Wild, Wild West. Will supposedly didn't "get" The Matrix. Jada pushed him to take it but he felt more comfortable doing WWW with Sonnenfeld and the rest is history. --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Augustus Augustus wrote: > > but Rave, i thought

Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Glen Turman original Han Solo?

but Rave, i thought the Will turned down Matrix because he was about 2 do Wild Wild West?  at least that is what he said when they interviewed him a few years ago.  he said that when the brothers tried 2 pitch him the role, he was kind of up in the air about it, so he chose 2 do WWW because of t

Re: [scifinoir2] Teen Titans: Blackest Night

You mean.. Dove? Seriously, I have no idea what your question is. Justin On Tue, Nov 3, 2009 at 5:08 AM, Kelwyn wrote: > > > I don't read "Teen Titans" (or any other comic, currently) so tell me true > - is the woman on the cover of this issue (link below) some kind of broke > ass Storm? > > ~

[scifinoir2] Re: Glen Turman original Han Solo?

Serendipity is everything (like the makers of "The Matrix" choosing Keanu Reeves over Will Smith) but can you imagine finding out (thirty years after the fact) that you ALMOST had the signature role in the most lucrative movie franchise of all time? ~(no)rave! --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com

Re: [scifinoir2] Glen Turman original Han Solo?

The movie would have been completely different. I think I would have loved it even more! :) I was really missing people of color in the film, and having one as a main character would have really made me smile as a kid. Maybe in one of those alternate universes there are all of the movies with alter

[scifinoir2] This is It grosses $103 million worldwide in first week

http://boxofficemojo.com/news/?id=2622&p=.htm While morbid curiosity was part of the appeal, spurred on a bit by the Halloween release, This Is It was promoted as a celebration of Michael Jackson's music and a look at his final creation. Ads also played a trick by declaring a two-week-only enga

[scifinoir2] Teen Titans: Blackest Night

I don't read "Teen Titans" (or any other comic, currently) so tell me true - is the woman on the cover of this issue (link below) some kind of broke ass Storm? ~rave? http://blackgeekdom.com/blog/2009/10/29/new-comics-10-28-09/

[scifinoir2] Glen Turman original Han Solo?

This reminds me of an old thread I started on this list many eons ago about how weren't any cool white actors under 50 because in the past cool white actors were just stand ins for cool black guys. Disappointingly, Hollywood seems to be regressing back to the bad old days. ~(no)rave! http://

[scifinoir2] Growing number watching TV on-line only

http://eguang.notlong.com Jazz musician Bill Cunliffe loves television -- but he doesn't watch it on a TV set. "I can watch anything I want, any time I want," he said, "on my bottom-of-the-line Mac PowerBook." Cunliffe, 53, is one of a growing number of TV viewers who get all their programs