RE: [scifinoir2] Caprica/BSG -- Where the Brothers At?

2010-02-08 Thread Tracey de Morsella
I like said, he reads like one of those racists who see themselves as enlightened and as you said, who will point to Latinos and Asians as to why our perspective is “crazy,” and use it as an excuse to not listen or open their minds. It is not intentional; it is unconscious. The only way he

Re: [scifinoir2] Caprica/BSG -- Where the Brothers At?

2010-02-08 Thread Mr. Worf
One thing that always bothers me is that even in fictional circumstances no one bothers to take chances. For example Jack n' the box recently made a commercial where Jack the owner of the chain was talking to the president. The president was white even though Obama has been in office for a year.

Re: [scifinoir2] Caprica/BSG -- Where the Brothers At?

2010-02-08 Thread Mr. Worf
I think the with the writers strike happening around that time frame they decided to progress things a bit. But you are correct, they could have showed their relationship more. Maybe they were afraid of showing an interracial couple? Interracial couples, and other types of relationships are

Re: [scifinoir2] Caprica/BSG -- Where the Brothers At?

2010-02-08 Thread Keith Johnson
Intriguing. Which bias test would he take? I took one of those years ago where you had to quickly choose between two sets of choices that basically boiled down a preference for lighter or darker skin. Think i came out in the middle, but I recall not liking the test. - Original Message

RE: [scifinoir2] Caprica/BSG -- Where the Brothers At?

2010-02-08 Thread Tracey de Morsella
During the writers’ strike, they had no difficulty developing other storylines and romances of people who were not Black, and they had no trouble showing Tory in a relationship or the character on Caprica in a relationship, so I’m now inclined after years of thinking this guy did not have Black

[scifinoir2] Re: Caprica/BSG -- Where the Brothers At?

2010-02-08 Thread Kelwyn
I remember having this conversation with a black, female native New Yorker just before the turn of the millennium. We got into a heated argument regarding whether Friends or Mad About You was a more accurate depictions of NY City. I championed MAY because the Buchmans, as portrayed by Paul

[scifinoir2] Re: Caprica/BSG -- Where the Brothers At?

2010-02-08 Thread Kelwyn
Dr. Ross Geller from Friends? ~(no)rave! --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@... wrote: Yeah, I hear you, but I'm focused on brothers today. Besides, with no black *men* around, who do the Sisters hook up with? - Original Message - From: Mr. Worf

Re: [scifinoir2] Caprica/BSG -- Where the Brothers At?

2010-02-08 Thread Mr. Worf
The storylines were shot before they got to that point in time is what I'm getting at. Very little anywhere in Hollywood was shot during the strike. It could have more to do with the casting director and not the actual directors or writers. This is an issue that has come up before and has not

Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Caprica/BSG -- Where the Brothers At?

2010-02-08 Thread Mr. Worf
I never watched the show because even in the coffee shop on the previews there were never any black people. Black people don't buy coffee? The worst example of this was the movie Ghost. Totally segregated. All of the black people lived in Harlem, and the white people were everywhere else

Re: [scifinoir2] Caprica/BSG -- Where the Brothers At?

2010-02-08 Thread Adrianne Brennan
I feel the same way towards all of those end of the world enthusiasts: yes, the world is being destroyed--*THEIR* world! :) ~ Where love and magic meet ~ http://www.adriannebrennan.com Experience the magic of the Dark Moon series: http://www.adriannebrennan.com/books.html#darkmoon Dare to take

RE: [scifinoir2] Caprica/BSG -- Where the Brothers At?

2010-02-08 Thread Tracey de Morsella
Then perhaps it was coincidental that the difficulties they had with Black characters throughout the entire series seemed similar to what was done during the strike, I do not know, but from my view they were doing more of the same. I do not doublt what you said occurred during the strike, but

Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Caprica/BSG -- Where the Brothers At?

2010-02-08 Thread Keith Johnson
i never watched Friends, but remember being on a plane somewhere and it was shown. When I saw the nerdy Ross and the goofy Joey fighting over Aisha Tyler, I thought, Talk about white male fantasies! That show never reflected any reality of mine or any aspects of the NYC I've visited several

Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Caprica/BSG -- Where the Brothers At?

2010-02-08 Thread Keith Johnson
yeah, what a fantasy that was... - Original Message - From: Kelwyn ravena...@yahoo.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, February 8, 2010 10:07:03 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: Caprica/BSG -- Where the Brothers At? Dr. Ross Geller from

[scifinoir2] Re: Who Dat Who Said Saints Win!?

2010-02-08 Thread B Smith
Personally, this is the greatest sporting event of my life. I'm a few months older than the franchise and have been a lifelong fan. I've seen them play in the old Tulane Stadium and the 'Dome. Went through the nadir years, never wore a bag and watched them get closer and closer. Finally the

Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Who Dat Who Said Saints Win!?

2010-02-08 Thread Adrianne Brennan
I know precious little about sports--only enough to know that this was a win like the Red Sox winning the World Series. So, kudos!! :D ~ Where love and magic meet ~ http://www.adriannebrennan.com Experience the magic of the Dark Moon series: http://www.adriannebrennan.com/books.html#darkmoon

[scifinoir2] movie review: Tokyo!

2010-02-08 Thread Mr. Worf
Movie Review: Tokyo! This award winning triad of short films is refreshing as they are surreal. Each movie is directed by a different indie director (Joon-ho Bong, Leos Carax, and Michel Gondry) showcasing each of their unique styles and stories set in the city of Tokyo, Japan. The first film

[scifinoir2] Letter From Grandma

2010-02-08 Thread Augustus Augustus
LETTER FROM GRANDMA Grandma is eighty-eight years old and still drives her own car. She writes: Dear Grand-daughter, The other day I went up to our local Christian book store and saw a 'Honk if you love Jesus' bumper sticker. I was feeling particularly sassy that day because I

Re: [scifinoir2] Caprica/BSG -- Where the Brothers At?

2010-02-08 Thread Mr. Worf
One thing that is overlooked with the show was the additional footage that was made for the internet. There were a lot of webisodes that included additional screen time for all of the main characters from their points of view. But brotha's character was seriously under utilized. Although it was

[scifinoir2] blog post: Do we no longer believe in a better tomorrow?

2010-02-08 Thread Mr. Worf
[image: Believing-in-a-better-tomorrow.jpg] [image: Peter Schwartz]http://visionsfortomorrow.net/contributors.php#peter_schwartz By Peter Schwartzhttp://visionsfortomorrow.net/contributors.php#peter_schwartz I wrote the following as part of an oped directed at the media industry. My profound

implicit prejudice in BSG RE: [scifinoir2] Caprica/BSG -- Where the Brothers At?

2010-02-08 Thread Tracey de Morsella
Perhaps we just have to agree to disagree. If all the great character development for African Americans scenes were coincidentally relegated to webisodes and the only reason that a black person’s role was not developed while others were was because of the strike, I find that coincidence odd.

Re: implicit prejudice in BSG RE: [scifinoir2] Caprica/BSG -- Where the Brothers At?

2010-02-08 Thread Mr. Worf
Without talking to them directly or someone asking them point blank we will never really know for sure. Its all intellectual conjecture at this point. I wasn't trying to prove that the producers and directors were fair. Just playing devil's advocate offering some possible alternatives. Considering

[scifinoir2] Re: Caprica/BSG -- Where the Brothers At?

2010-02-08 Thread B Smith
Sounds like TekWar. --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Mr. Worf hellomahog...@... wrote: One thing that always bothers me is that even in fictional circumstances no one bothers to take chances. For example Jack n' the box recently made a commercial where Jack the owner of the chain was

Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Caprica/BSG -- Where the Brothers At?

2010-02-08 Thread Mr. Worf
Yea, I think you're right. I don't remember seeing that show in reruns on the syfy channel. On Mon, Feb 8, 2010 at 11:44 AM, B Smith daikaij...@yahoo.com wrote: Sounds like TekWar. --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Mr. Worf hellomahog...@... wrote: One thing that always bothers me is

RE: implicit prejudice in BSG RE: [scifinoir2] Caprica/BSG -- Where the Brothers At?

2010-02-08 Thread Tracey de Morsella
I guess we just disagree on both whether Moore is prejudice against Black and the definition of implicit prejudice. I believe Moore is prejudice against Blacks. You are actually the first black man I have ever met who has come to Moore’s defense. This was not about Black leads.

RE: [scifinoir2] blog post: Do we no longer believe in a better tomorrow?

2010-02-08 Thread Martin Baxter
I wish I could believe in that better tomorrow, but there are too many small, stuppid hew-mons to make it feasible. They'll create ways to muck it up. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant

RE: [scifinoir2] Letter From Grandma

2010-02-08 Thread Martin Baxter
You go, Grandma!!! _ Hotmail: Trusted email with Microsoft’s powerful SPAM protection. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/201469226/direct/01/

RE: [scifinoir2] movie review: Tokyo!

2010-02-08 Thread Martin Baxter
Sounds worth watching, though. _ Hotmail: Trusted email with powerful SPAM protection. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/201469227/direct/01/

RE: [scifinoir2] Re: Who Dat Who Said Saints Win!?

2010-02-08 Thread Martin Baxter
Feel free to do so, B! The enormity of this didn't hit me until I was watching SportsCenter this morning at nine, half-asleep and trying to stir to do some work. At 9:03, I was crying too hard to do so. I've only been to the Big Easy twice in my life, a day spent there at the most, and I know

RE: [scifinoir2] Great Action Flicks on TCM Tonight

2010-02-08 Thread Martin Baxter
Mr Worf, you left off what happened after he waded through that first bunch, when he reached the elevator. ;-) If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To:

RE: [scifinoir2] American Gothic Marathon

2010-02-08 Thread Martin Baxter
There's a lovely thought. Or ITV, if the Beeb doesn't bite. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: keithbjohn...@comcast.net

RE: [scifinoir2] Great Action Flicks on TCM Tonight

2010-02-08 Thread Martin Baxter
LMNAO! _ Hotmail: Trusted email with powerful SPAM protection. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/201469227/direct/01/

Re: [scifinoir2] Great Action Flicks on TCM Tonight

2010-02-08 Thread Mr. Worf
I didn't want to give away the whole movie! I gotta leave some sort of surprise so they have something to look forward to. On Mon, Feb 8, 2010 at 12:44 PM, Martin Baxter truthseeker...@hotmail.comwrote: Mr Worf, you left off what happened after he waded through that first bunch, when he

RE: [scifinoir2] Great Action Flicks on TCM Tonight

2010-02-08 Thread Martin Baxter
D'OH!! Well, didn't really spoil it, so I'm safe, if not slow. Indeed, I may have whetted a few appetites. :-) If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To:

[scifinoir2] Fwd: 7 Inventors You Didn't Know You Wanted To Punch In The Face]

2010-02-08 Thread Mr. Worf
http://www.cracked.com/article/214_7-inventors-you-didnt-know-you-wanted-to-punch-in-face/ -- Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/

RE: [scifinoir2] Re: Who Dat Who Said Saints Win!?

2010-02-08 Thread Martin Baxter
Lost the last piece of that in transit. (Danged e-mail...) WHO DAT! _ Hotmail: Free, trusted and rich email service. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/201469228/direct/01/

[scifinoir2] Physicist proves that teleportation of energy is possible

2010-02-08 Thread Mr. Worf
Physicist proves that teleportation of energy is possible By Andrew Nusca http://www.smartplanet.com/search/?q=Andrew+Nusca | Feb 5, 2010 | *6* Commentshttp://www.smartplanet.com/business/blog/smart-takes/physicist-proves-that-teleportation-of-energy-is-possible/3967/#comments - Share -

Re: [scifinoir2] Fwd: 7 Inventors You Didn't Know You Wanted To Punch In The Face]

2010-02-08 Thread Keith Johnson
funny stuff! - Original Message - From: Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, February 8, 2010 4:03:08 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: [scifinoir2] Fwd: 7 Inventors You Didn't Know You Wanted To Punch In The Face]

[scifinoir2] Palin's Palm Holds the Answers

2010-02-08 Thread Kelwyn
http://buzz.yahoo.com/buzzlog/93375?fp=1 Noted intellectual and Belle of the Tea Party Ball, Sarah Palin uses crib notes on palm to aid speech. Same technique helped her graduate from the fifth college she attended.

[scifinoir2] movie review: A bittersweet life

2010-02-08 Thread Mr. Worf
Movie Review: Dalkomhan Insaeng aka A Bittersweet Life, directed by Kim Jee-Woon Made in South Korea, this is a mob story about a very sharp mob enforcer named Kim. Kim’s boss runs a large hotel downtown. One evening he is asked to take care of a situation in one of the private rooms in the

[scifinoir2] Thanks To Hulu, Indie Film 'Strictly Sexual' Hits Big

2010-02-08 Thread Keith Johnson
Welcome to entrepreneurship on the Web. Notice that packaging is everything, as the film has no nudity and no explicit sexual scenes... * http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=123499181 Thanks To Hulu, Indie Film

[scifinoir2] RE: Hot Air Balloon Over Troubled Waters

2010-02-08 Thread Tracey de Morsella
From: Chris de Morsella [mailto:cdemorse...@yahoo.com] Sent: Monday, February 08, 2010 8:24 PM To: Tracey de Morsella; 'S. Drasnin'; 'Loyd Atwood'; 'Tony Lockard' Subject: RE: Hot Air Balloon Over Troubled Waters LOST BALLOON BLOWING IN THE WIND A woman in a hot air balloon realized she