[scifinoir2] Steampunk creations

2010-04-22 Thread Mr. Worf
Lots of cool steampunk creations. http://steampunkworkshop.com/visit-steamp…http://steampunkworkshop.com/visit-steampunked-home http://www.realcooltoys.com/reauin.html http://www.instructables.com/id/Steampunk…http://www.instructables.com/id/Steampunk-Shutter-Shades/

Re: [scifinoir2] A steampunk desk

2010-04-22 Thread Martin Baxter
I call it magnificent. [?][?] On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 5:23 PM, Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com wrote: He calls it a steampunk command center: http://www.gizmag.com/steampunk-organ-command-desk/14861/?utm_source=Gizmag+Subscribersutm_campaign=0d26c14555-UA-2235360-4utm_medium=email more

Re: [scifinoir2] Facebook Sci-Fi Groups

2010-04-22 Thread Martin Baxter
Angela, I'm technically in a couple, but I haven't been in either for... I don't know *how* long. I have issues with that site. On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 10:21 PM, angelababycat asrobin...@mindspring.comwrote: I decided to enter the 21st century and finally set up a facebook page. Well, that's

Re: [scifinoir2] Re: ISO good book recommendations

2010-04-22 Thread Martin Baxter
Angela, the way you phrased that made a neuron in my brain flip states. There's something in that vein, but I can't remember it. I'm thinking on it, and I'll put it into the database, along with a few others. On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 4:05 PM, angelababycat asrobin...@mindspring.comwrote:

Re: [scifinoir2] Leonard Nimoy set to retire

2010-04-22 Thread Martin Baxter
It's supposed to be after, Mr Worf. His last scene in Fringe, and then he does a David Caruso. On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 4:48 PM, Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com wrote: Is this before or after he finishes his role on Fringe? On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 1:32 PM, Keith Johnson

[scifinoir2] Re: Leonard Nimoy set to retire

2010-04-22 Thread Kelwyn
I am always surprised when actors, writers or artists retire. Retire from what? In any of these professions, you always have the option not to work. In fact, for me, the most attractive thing about being a writer is not having to write. I recently saw The Back-Up Plan featuring 83

[scifinoir2] Re: Way OT: Polanski Rumoured to Have Appealed to Obama

2010-04-22 Thread Kelwyn
So...now Obama is more moral than the Popes who pardoned priests for doing much worse. ~rave? --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@... wrote: I have to disagree with you in every way. There's favors, and there's career suicide. No amount of Hollywood connections

Re: [scifinoir2] Facebook Sci-Fi Groups

2010-04-22 Thread Daryle Lockhart
I'm in 12 groups across social media and this is the best sci-fi discussion group I've ever been a part of. We could create social media presences for this group. That would grow the membership, and I'm not entirely sure that's a good thing. I like the energy Tracey started with, and

[scifinoir2] Re: OT: Do Past Mistakes Condemn a Star Forever?

2010-04-22 Thread Kelwyn
People tend to forget, ignore or overlook that more young, underage girls are ground up by the fashion industry than by the porn industry. In fact, while the porn industry has largely cleaned up it's act (regarding underage girls) the fashion industry continues to devour (and expose to drugs

Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Leonard Nimoy set to retire

2010-04-22 Thread Daryle Lockhart
Well, Nimoy is one of the few who needs to announce his retirement. Otherwise, as he himself implies, nobody will ever let Zachary fill the role. That being said, I believe him as much as I did Michael Jordan or Jay Z. Leonard Nimoy will die during the production of some Star

[scifinoir2] Re: ISO good book recommendations

2010-04-22 Thread B Smith
Dan Simmons' Hyperion Cantos might be a good fit. The futuretech is there in huge doses, there are a group of heroes who are on the journey for various reasons and there are huge battles. Plus the Shrike is an awesome big bad. --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Martin Baxter martinbaxt...@...

Re: [scifinoir2] Facebook Sci-Fi Groups

2010-04-22 Thread Martin Baxter
Frankly, Daryle, the social aspect worries me a bit, looking at all of the other social networks out there. Here, I feel safe in talking. Not so much in the rest. On Thu, Apr 22, 2010 at 8:36 AM, Daryle Lockhart dar...@darylelockhart.comwrote: I'm in 12 groups across social media and this is

[scifinoir2] Re: Way OT: Polanski Rumoured to Have Appealed to Obama

2010-04-22 Thread B Smith
Morality or lack there of has nothing to do with it. Pardoning Polanski has no upside for Obama. He may be beholden to some big money donors but they won't trump his pragmatism. In today's political climate this would be a huge win for the other side and he has enough on his plate to worry

Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Way OT: Polanski Rumoured to Have Appealed to Obama

2010-04-22 Thread Martin Baxter
rave, IMO, Hitler is more moral than the Popes who've let that evil go on virtually unchecked. And Obama would be no better, were he to pardon Polanski for his actions. One thing to remember -- Polanski was convicted of his crimes, and ran to avoid being jailed for them. On Thu, Apr 22, 2010 at

[scifinoir2] Re: J'Lo's Back-up Plan

2010-04-22 Thread Kelwyn
I agree that Out of Sight was J-Lo's best work but I was referring to movies where she is the top-line star. Also, I love, love, LOVE Rosie Perez and believe her career was constrained only by Hollywood's lack of imagination (see White Men Can't Jump where Reid Shelton played her both to type

[scifinoir2] Re: ISO good book recommendations

2010-04-22 Thread Kelwyn
Since this is a listserv for People of Color, can y'all please recommend some sci-fi by authors of color? I did my bit The One Hundred Thousand Kingdoms, y'all. How bout some Steven Barnes? Heck, how bout some Cory Doctorow (who ain't black like me). ~rave! --- In

[scifinoir2] Re: J'Lo's Back-up Plan

2010-04-22 Thread Kelwyn
Uh, make that RON Shelton ~rave! --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Kelwyn ravena...@... wrote: I agree that Out of Sight was J-Lo's best work but I was referring to movies where she is the top-line star. Also, I love, love, LOVE Rosie Perez and believe her career was constrained only by

[scifinoir2] India's copyright bill gets it right

2010-04-22 Thread Kelwyn
http://www.boingboing.net/2010/04/22/indias-copyright-bil.html India's new copyright bill sounds like a pretty good piece of work: it declares private, personal copying to be fair dealing (like US fair use) and limits the prohibition on breaking DRM so that it's only illegal to do so if you're

[scifinoir2] Re: Way OT: Polanski Rumoured to Have Appealed to Obama

2010-04-22 Thread Kelwyn
Someone smarter than me once said, once you insert Hitler into the conversation, the argument is over. Which is cool with me. ~rave! --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Martin Baxter martinbaxt...@... wrote: rave, IMO, Hitler is more moral than the Popes who've let that evil go on

[scifinoir2] The Pokemonification of the US C-Note

2010-04-22 Thread Kelwyn
http://www.boingboing.net/2010/04/22/pokemonification-of.html Check out the description of the security features on the new US $100 bill: it really sounds like the deluxe bonus card in a pack of bubblegum cards: Benjamin Franklin is still on the C-note. But he has been joined by a disappearing

[scifinoir2] Re: Way OT: Polanski Rumoured to Have Appealed to Obama

2010-04-22 Thread Kelwyn
Let me say this about that. Doug Wilder, the first (and, thus far, ONLY) black governor of Virginia, was a one-term, lame duck governor when he pardoned a convicted Allen Iverson. And Iverson was guilty of hitting a white woman in the head with a chair during a bowling alley race riot which,

[scifinoir2] South Park airs censored episode after threat

2010-04-22 Thread Kelwyn
http://tv.yahoo.com/south-park/show/492/news/tv-news.en.reuters.com/tv-news.en.reuters.com-20100422-us_southpark_muslims Did anybody see this last night? It was bold and hilarious. As I am watching it, I am thinking I can't believe I am watching this! ~rave!

[scifinoir2] Re: ISO good book recommendations

2010-04-22 Thread B Smith
Barnes is always a favorite. My favorite sare the Lion's Blood series, Iron Shadows, Street Lethal and The Legacy of Heorot and Beowulf's Children with Niven and Pournelle. His last couple were good but not my favorites. Barnes' wife Tananarive Due is awesome as well. Her work is more

Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Way OT: Polanski Rumoured to Have Appealed to Obama

2010-04-22 Thread Keith Johnson
I agree with all you said, but I think morality does come into play. it's not always a dirty word, attempts by the ultra-right to usurp it notwithstanding. I think Obama would find it personally morally reprehensible to pardon or try to aid a guy who drugged and abused a thirteen year old girl.

Re: [scifinoir2] Re: OT: Do Past Mistakes Condemn a Star Forever?

2010-04-22 Thread Keith Johnson
Good point on the fashion industry.I'm often bothered on that front. And yes, we acknowledge there are parts of the world where none of this is seen as unseemly, but for me it's disgusting. - Original Message - From: Kelwyn ravena...@yahoo.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent:

[scifinoir2] Re: ISO good book recommendations

2010-04-22 Thread Kelwyn
Thanks large for the Acacia memory elbow! I was having a severe brain cramp trying to remember that one! ~rave! --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, B Smith daikaij...@... wrote: Barnes is always a favorite. My favorite sare the Lion's Blood series, Iron Shadows, Street Lethal and The Legacy

[scifinoir2] Re: OT: Do Past Mistakes Condemn a Star Forever?

2010-04-22 Thread Kelwyn
I meant to write I CAN state this without condoning it. ~rave! --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@... wrote: Good point on the fashion industry.I'm often bothered on that front. And yes, we acknowledge there are parts of the world where none of this is seen as

Re: [scifinoir2] Re: J'Lo's Back-up Plan

2010-04-22 Thread Keith Johnson
For headlining films, Lopez has done mostly forgettable but serviceable romantic comedies, as you said. In that, she's in the same arena as Kate Hudson, Katherine Heigel, and sometimes Sandra Bullock. Perez was too real for Hollywood. I like that she's very proud of her African heritage. She

[scifinoir2] Re: Way OT: Polanski Rumoured to Have Appealed to Obama

2010-04-22 Thread Kelwyn
but, for real doh, how you gone argue that something is worse than Hitler? ~rave? --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@... wrote: I had someone hurl that charge at me once. It's called Godwin's Law, the belief that any serious argument has a near one-hundred percent

[scifinoir2] Re: Way OT: Polanski Rumoured to Have Appealed to Obama

2010-04-22 Thread B Smith
I agree with you. Obama, the man with two young daughters, definitely would be disgusted by Polanski's actions as anyone should. Obama the polictician engages in some pretty cold calculus an d nothing about pardon or clemency works. --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Keith Johnson

Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Way OT: Polanski Rumoured to Have Appealed to Obama

2010-04-22 Thread Martin Baxter
rave, I think we met the same person. [?] Hitler came out of me in anger, never a good place to be when posting. Having once been a staunch Catholic, I'm outraged by the level of cover-up sexual abuse among the clergy has been accorded. I was never a victim, but one of the men I've long

Re: [scifinoir2] Re: OT: Do Past Mistakes Condemn a Star Forever?

2010-04-22 Thread Martin Baxter
Truth all the way, rave. And I have to admit that I knew nothing of those rumors about Nicholson, Beatty and Jagger. Though I am inclined to believe them, for some instinctive reason. On Thu, Apr 22, 2010 at 8:44 AM, Kelwyn ravena...@yahoo.com wrote: People tend to forget, ignore or overlook

Re: [scifinoir2] South Park airs censored episode after threat

2010-04-22 Thread Martin Baxter
://tv.yahoo.com/south-park/show/492/news/tv-news.en.reuters.com/tv-news.en.reuters.com-20100422-us_southpark_muslims Did anybody see this last night? It was bold and hilarious. As I am watching it, I am thinking I can't believe I am watching this! ~rave! -- If all the world's a stage

Re: [scifinoir2] The Pokemonification of the US C-Note

2010-04-22 Thread Martin Baxter
Jeez. Sounds like it'll cost *more* than $100 to *make* a $100. On Thu, Apr 22, 2010 at 10:34 AM, Kelwyn ravena...@yahoo.com wrote: http://www.boingboing.net/2010/04/22/pokemonification-of.html Check out the description of the security features on the new US $100 bill: it really sounds

[scifinoir2] PSA

2010-04-22 Thread Augustus Augustus
Just wanted 2 let everyone knowif you had not  checked it out already...BOOMERANG started back showing Justice League: Unlimited this past Monday.  Missed them, so 4 me, it is must see TV! Fate.

Re: [scifinoir2] The Pokemonification of the US C-Note

2010-04-22 Thread Mr. Worf
It looks kind of tacky. The 3d strip is something that they use for kid toys and stickers, but the color shifting picture in a picture is cool. Check it out at newmoney.gov On Thu, Apr 22, 2010 at 9:13 AM, Martin Baxter martinbaxt...@gmail.comwrote: Jeez. Sounds like it'll cost *more* than

Re: [scifinoir2] PSA

2010-04-22 Thread Keith Johnson
Been watching, but they started showing it sporadically two or three weeks ago. For some reason they are stuck in the last season. They've shown the Deadman ep twice in the last month. I'm hoping they make it permanent and rewind all the way back to the beginning, when it was just Justice

Re: [scifinoir2] PSA

2010-04-22 Thread Augustus Augustus
Keith, totally agree.  i even sent them an email asking them are they going 2 start from the very first ep...the martian one where they first start with the original 7? Fate. --- On Thu, 4/22/10, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.net wrote: From: Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.net

Re: [scifinoir2] South Park airs censored episode after threat

2010-04-22 Thread Mr. Worf
not offended by it. So I don't think allowing religious extremists to dictate what you can and cannot say is a good thing. On Thu, Apr 22, 2010 at 8:10 AM, Kelwyn ravena...@yahoo.com wrote: http://tv.yahoo.com/south-park/show/492/news/tv-news.en.reuters.com/tv-news.en.reuters.com-20100422

Re: [scifinoir2] Re: OT: Do Past Mistakes Condemn a Star Forever?

2010-04-22 Thread Mr. Worf
Mickenzie Philips also mentioned having numerous affairs when she was underage as well. Including Mick. (and her estranged father multiple times) On Thu, Apr 22, 2010 at 5:44 AM, Kelwyn ravena...@yahoo.com wrote: People tend to forget, ignore or overlook that more young, underage girls are

Re: [scifinoir2] India's copyright bill gets it right

2010-04-22 Thread Mr. Worf
That's what we need instead of forcing people to repurchase things that they already own. On Thu, Apr 22, 2010 at 7:23 AM, Kelwyn ravena...@yahoo.com wrote: http://www.boingboing.net/2010/04/22/indias-copyright-bil.html India's new copyright bill sounds like a pretty good piece of work: it

Re: [scifinoir2] Re: J'Lo's Back-up Plan

2010-04-22 Thread Mr. Worf
This is a good example of how bad hollywood is. On Thu, Apr 22, 2010 at 8:27 AM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.netwrote: For headlining films, Lopez has done mostly forgettable but serviceable romantic comedies, as you said. In that, she's in the same arena as Kate Hudson, Katherine

Re: [scifinoir2] India's copyright bill gets it right

2010-04-22 Thread Martin Baxter
I just realized what this means, Mr Worf, and why the West is so set against it. Change. Even though we are one of the most technologically and socially advanced nations on the planet, we DON'T like change by and large. On Thu, Apr 22, 2010 at 3:24 PM, Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com wrote:

Re: [scifinoir2] South Park airs censored episode after threat

2010-04-22 Thread Martin Baxter
, Kelwyn ravena...@yahoo.com wrote: http://tv.yahoo.com/south-park/show/492/news/tv-news.en.reuters.com/tv-news.en.reuters.com-20100422-us_southpark_muslims Did anybody see this last night? It was bold and hilarious. As I am watching it, I am thinking I can't believe I am watching this! ~rave

Re: [scifinoir2] PSA

2010-04-22 Thread Martin Baxter
Thanks for reminding me, Fate, although I did see it in my listings. The reminder was that I needed to call DirecTV to see about upgrading my package so that I could get it. On Thu, Apr 22, 2010 at 1:44 PM, Augustus Augustus jazzynupe_...@yahoo.comwrote: Just wanted 2 let everyone

Re: [scifinoir2] The Pokemonification of the US C-Note

2010-04-22 Thread Martin Baxter
I just realized something. This new money is an insidious GOP plot. They're so afraid of the Evils of Communism that they made PokeMoney. Before long, we'll be hearing the subliminal cry Gotta catch 'em all! POKE BUCKS! On Thu, Apr 22, 2010 at 2:52 PM, Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com wrote:

Re: [scifinoir2] India's copyright bill gets it right

2010-04-22 Thread Mr. Worf
We allow corporations to have free reign with our privacy rights here. (junk mail is still a multi-million dollar business. Not to mention the things going on with facebook.) They buy and sell our information at will and we have to jump through a myriad of hoops to stop it from happening on a

Re: [scifinoir2] South Park airs censored episode after threat

2010-04-22 Thread Mr. Worf
not offended by it. So I don't think allowing religious extremists to dictate what you can and cannot say is a good thing. On Thu, Apr 22, 2010 at 8:10 AM, Kelwyn ravena...@yahoo.com wrote: http://tv.yahoo.com/south-park/show/492/news/tv-news.en.reuters.com/tv-news.en.reuters.com-20100422

[scifinoir2] Keeping Secrets?

2010-04-22 Thread Mr. Worf
The PBS show History Detectives covered a patent for a component for a device that may have been used on the little boy bomb that was used on Nagasaki Japan during WW2. The interesting thing was that a patent for it wasn't granted until 1958. My question is during that time frame, when they were

[scifinoir2] Popular Hitler Downfall videos taken down at YouTube

2010-04-22 Thread Kelwyn
http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/blog/2010/apr/21/downfall-spoof-removal-mistake Was it really a good idea for Constantin Films, the company that made the (excellent) 2004 film Der Untergang (Downfall), to step up its demands for YouTube to remove all the video spoofs using a clip from its

[scifinoir2] Hitler Reacts to Usain Bolt's World Record

2010-04-22 Thread Kelwyn
There are hundreds of Hitler reacts videos! Who knew? Here is Hitler reacting to the news that Usain Bolt has broken the 100m World Record. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9xUS30-RFf0feature=fvw

[scifinoir2] T-Pain gets T-bagged by Sean Hannity...

2010-04-22 Thread Kelwyn
...or, stupid is as stupid does. ~(no)rave! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mtlHcl8WjCA

Re: [scifinoir2] PSA

2010-04-22 Thread Keith Johnson
Right, the premiere ep of Justice League, which i believe was called Secret Origins. I really loved the early eps because there were so many two- and three-part ones. I especially enjoyed the introduction of Aquaman, in his angry, wild-looking phase...the one where some of them went to an