[scifinoir2] Re: Survivors

2010-03-25 Thread B Smith
The thing that bothers me is that there shouldn't be that much scarcity with a metro area of a 2 million or so people to scavenge. Idiots take over one store or mall? Move further out and scavenge somewhere else. There are thousands of empty homes raid their cabinets and pantries. Where are

Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Survivors

2010-03-25 Thread Mr. Worf
I was thinking that too. Most of the population died in three days so all of animals are still there unless they were infected as well. There was a scene where the boy saw a dead sheep in the water where they were living, but nothing came from it. Also in another episode they came across a small

Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Survivors

2010-03-25 Thread Martin Baxter
B, I'd be afraid to handle the cattle, for fear that the disease that killed everyone might be loitering in them. On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 4:17 PM, B Smith daikaij...@yahoo.com wrote: The thing that bothers me is that there shouldn't be that much scarcity with a metro area of a 2 million or

Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Survivors

2010-03-25 Thread Martin Baxter
But you're spot-on, re scavenging. There should be tons of canned goods lying about. On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 5:20 PM, Martin Baxter martinbaxt...@gmail.comwrote: B, I'd be afraid to handle the cattle, for fear that the disease that killed everyone might be loitering in them. On Thu, Mar 25,

Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Survivors

2010-03-25 Thread Mr. Worf
Not to mention other food distribution centers that they could have taken advantage of. There are bakeries, meat plants, frozen food factories, cheese factories etc all they need is a phone book and a map. Their water problems would be over if they just dropped by the avion factory or Sharper

[scifinoir2] Re: Survivors

2010-03-25 Thread B Smith
And scavenge generators and fuel, solar panels and camping type appliances that can run on dc power in order to preserve their fresh food for as long as possible. The water thing is stupid. Carbon is readily available and they can boil the filtered water or set up a small still to further

Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Survivors?

2010-02-19 Thread Mr. Worf
@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Mr. Worf Sent: Wednesday, February 17, 2010 1:21 AM To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Survivors? I can also shoot a gun, and fish too. :) On Wed, Feb 17, 2010 at 1:13 AM, Tracey de Morsella tdli

[scifinoir2] Re: Survivors?

2010-02-19 Thread B Smith
: [scifinoir2] Re: Survivors? I can also shoot a gun, and fish too. :) On Wed, Feb 17, 2010 at 1:13 AM, Tracey de Morsella tdlists@ wrote: I want you on my team!!! :-) -Original Message- From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com

Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Survivors?

2010-02-19 Thread Keith Johnson
- Original Message - From: B Smith daikaij...@yahoo.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, February 19, 2010 12:11:39 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: Survivors? Actually modern dairy cows are fed mixed rations as well. A lot of modern

[scifinoir2] Re: Survivors?

2010-02-19 Thread B Smith
: Friday, February 19, 2010 12:11:39 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: Survivors? Actually modern dairy cows are fed mixed rations as well. A lot of modern dairies have very little grazing compared to the way it was done in the past. Dairy cows are so

Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Survivors?

2010-02-19 Thread George Arterberry
...@yahoogro ups.com Sent: Friday, February 19, 2010 12:11:39 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: Survivors? Actually modern dairy cows are fed mixed rations as well. A lot of modern dairies have very little grazing compared to the way it was done in the past

[scifinoir2] Re: Survivors?

2010-02-19 Thread B Smith
of the cities or flee to the country-side? From: B Smith daikaij...@... To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Fri, February 19, 2010 1:19:19 PM Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: Survivors?   I think there would be a lot of that but with 3 million or so survivors

RE: [scifinoir2] Re: Survivors?

2010-02-19 Thread Martin Baxter
As much as I'd hate to, I'd go to the countryside. (City kid, born and bred.) I suddenly have a thought. What happens to those who need daily meds? I'm in that number and, without a pharmacy to dispense... guess I'd have to stage a few break-ins before departing.

RE: [scifinoir2] Re: Survivors?

2010-02-19 Thread Martin Baxter
- From: B Smith daikaij...@... To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, February 19, 2010 12:11:39 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: Survivors? Actually modern dairy cows are fed mixed rations as well. A lot of modern dairies have very

RE: [scifinoir2] Re: Survivors?

2010-02-19 Thread Martin Baxter
=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: hellomahog...@gmail.com Date: Fri, 19 Feb 2010 01:33:20 -0800 Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Survivors? I think that the things would eventually go back to how they were before man interfered. Over

Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Survivors?

2010-02-19 Thread Mr. Worf
hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik -- To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: hellomahog...@gmail.com Date: Fri, 19 Feb 2010 01:33:20 -0800 Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Survivors? I think that the things would

RE: [scifinoir2] Re: Survivors?

2010-02-19 Thread Martin Baxter
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: hellomahog...@gmail.com Date: Fri, 19 Feb 2010 13:08:11 -0800 Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Survivors? I saw on the news that there were bears living in abandoned homes in Detroit! It happens very quickly. Did

Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Survivors?

2010-02-19 Thread Mr. Worf
17, 2010 1:21 AM To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Survivors? I can also shoot a gun, and fish too. :) On Wed, Feb 17, 2010 at 1:13 AM, Tracey de Morsella tdlists@ wrote: I want you on my team

RE: [scifinoir2] Re: Survivors?

2010-02-19 Thread Martin Baxter
: hellomahog...@gmail.com Date: Fri, 19 Feb 2010 13:12:29 -0800 Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Survivors? We have a lot of organic farmers in California so that's what I was thinking of when I wrote that post. There is an organic dairy farm only about

Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Survivors?

2010-02-19 Thread Mr. Worf
2010 13:12:29 -0800 Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Survivors? We have a lot of organic farmers in California so that's what I was thinking of when I wrote that post. There is an organic dairy farm only about 10 minutes from here. They have a couple hundred head of cattle and land on both

RE: [scifinoir2] Re: Survivors?

2010-02-19 Thread Martin Baxter
merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: hellomahog...@gmail.com Date: Fri, 19 Feb 2010 14:08:58 -0800 Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Survivors

Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Survivors?

2010-02-19 Thread Keith Johnson
@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, February 19, 2010 12:11:39 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: Survivors? Actually modern dairy cows are fed mixed rations as well. A lot of modern dairies have very little grazing compared to the way it was done in the past

[scifinoir2] Re: Survivors?

2010-02-19 Thread B Smith
merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: daikaij...@... Date: Fri, 19 Feb 2010 18:19:19 + Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: Survivors

RE: [scifinoir2] Re: Survivors?

2010-02-17 Thread Tracey de Morsella
I want you on my team!!! :-) -Original Message- From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of B Smith Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2010 2:53 PM To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: Survivors? we have a pretty good cross section

Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Survivors?

2010-02-17 Thread Mr. Worf
: Tuesday, February 16, 2010 2:53 PM To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: Survivors? we have a pretty good cross section of folks that post. I think we might be lacking a few skillsets but with books and hard work we could make a go. I'm pretty well versed in agriculture

RE: [scifinoir2] Re: Survivors?

2010-02-17 Thread Tracey de Morsella
Of B Smith Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2010 2:53 PM To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: Survivors? we have a pretty good cross section of folks that post. I think we might be lacking a few skillsets but with books and hard work we could make a go. I'm pretty well versed

[scifinoir2] Re: Survivors?

2010-02-17 Thread B Smith
Some of the plants would continue to operate for a while but if the grids go down it's a moot point. Also the bulk of their plants or coal and natural gas powered. --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Mr. Worf hellomahog...@... wrote: I can understand power plants like a nuclear plant, but

RE: [scifinoir2] Re: Survivors?

2010-02-17 Thread Martin Baxter
@yahoogroups.com From: hellomahog...@gmail.com Date: Tue, 16 Feb 2010 16:23:53 -0800 Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Survivors? I can understand power plants like a nuclear plant, but power plants like Hoover dam could run for some time until

Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Survivors?

2010-02-17 Thread Mr. Worf
They have 16 nuclear plants in the UK. Unless they shut them down the reality is that anyone that is left would find out what multiple meltdowns would look like. On Wed, Feb 17, 2010 at 10:03 AM, B Smith daikaij...@yahoo.com wrote: Some of the plants would continue to operate for a while but if

RE: [scifinoir2] Re: Survivors?

2010-02-17 Thread Tracey de Morsella
That's why seeds was on my list after books -Original Message- From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of B Smith Sent: Wednesday, February 17, 2010 2:43 PM To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: Survivors? We'd have to make sure

[scifinoir2] Re: Survivors?

2010-02-16 Thread B Smith
Give it an episode or two and everything you guys mentioned will start to be answered. This was an intro episode and they spent more time introducing characters than getting to the nuts and bolts of survival. The survivors we have met so far are by an large urbanites who are pretty clueless

[scifinoir2] Re: Survivors?

2010-02-16 Thread B Smith
I haven't seen the original either. I've seen the first three episodes and the crew starts to wise up pretty quickly. I think Martin hit the nail on the head that seeing 99% of humanity die would throw most folks into a deep depression. The doctor seems shell shocked but I imagine she's been

[scifinoir2] Re: Survivors?

2010-02-16 Thread B Smith
No because American roads would be vast parking lots filled with stalled cars and rotting corpses. ;) --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Tracey de Morsella tdli...@... wrote: Would you be driving aimlessly From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf

RE: [scifinoir2] Re: Survivors?

2010-02-16 Thread Tracey de Morsella
LOL! You got that right -Original Message- From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of B Smith Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2010 1:59 PM To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: Survivors? No because American roads would be vast

RE: [scifinoir2] Re: Survivors?

2010-02-16 Thread Martin Baxter
B, I missed The Colony almost completely (working). As for contributing to an apocalypse sitch, I wouldn't have much to toss in the hat. I've always had the gift of being able to manage. That's probably where I'd show up.

RE: [scifinoir2] Re: Survivors?

2010-02-16 Thread Tracey de Morsella
my inclination to raid books and libraries as I mentioned before -Original Message- From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of B Smith Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2010 1:45 PM To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: Survivors? I

RE: [scifinoir2] Re: Survivors?

2010-02-16 Thread Martin Baxter
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: daikaij...@yahoo.com Date: Tue, 16 Feb 2010 21:58:46 + Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: Survivors? No because American roads would be vast parking lots filled

[scifinoir2] Re: Survivors?

2010-02-16 Thread B Smith
...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of B Smith Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2010 1:45 PM To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: Survivors? I haven't seen the original either. I've seen the first three episodes and the crew starts to wise up pretty quickly. I think Martin hit

RE: [scifinoir2] Re: Survivors?

2010-02-16 Thread Tracey de Morsella
: [scifinoir2] Re: Survivors? I liked The Colony but they were too competent. Their group had engineers, a couple of scientists, a mechanic, a doctor, a nurse and two handymen. The only deadweight they had was a personal trainer/martial arts instructor who happened to be a hard worker. It's still

[scifinoir2] Re: Survivors?

2010-02-16 Thread B Smith
: Tuesday, February 16, 2010 2:23 PM To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: Survivors? I liked The Colony but they were too competent. Their group had engineers, a couple of scientists, a mechanic, a doctor, a nurse and two handymen. The only deadweight they had was a personal

Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Survivors?

2010-02-16 Thread Mr. Worf
I can understand power plants like a nuclear plant, but power plants like Hoover dam could run for some time until there are failures of the turbines. On Tue, Feb 16, 2010 at 11:58 AM, B Smith daikaij...@yahoo.com wrote: Give it an episode or two and everything you guys mentioned will start to

Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Survivors?

2010-02-16 Thread Mr. Worf
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: Survivors? Give it an episode or two and everything you guys mentioned will start to be answered. This was an intro episode and they spent more time introducing characters than getting to the nuts and bolts of survival. The survivors we have

Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Survivors?

2010-02-16 Thread Mr. Worf
- From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of B Smith Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2010 2:23 PM To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: Survivors? I liked The Colony but they were too competent. Their group had engineers