RE: [scifinoir2] Re: What does Sci-Fi have against Black people?

2005-10-27 Thread Martin Pratt
@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: What does Sci-Fi have against Black people? On one point, I have to say militarily was incorrect...Sisko was a commander, but of an outpost, not a ship, which I am assuming the captain's rank was reserved for ship's commanders...But I do see your point

RE: [scifinoir2] Re: What does Sci-Fi have against Black people?

2005-10-19 Thread Keith Johnson
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: What does Sci-Fi have against Black people? On one point, I have to say militarily was incorrect...Sisko was a commander, but of an outpost, not a ship, which I am assuming the captain's rank was reserved for ship's commanders...But I do

RE: [scifinoir2] Re: What does Sci-Fi have against Black people?

2005-10-18 Thread Astromancer
does Sci-Fi have against Black people? On one point, I have to say militarily was incorrect...Sisko was a commander, but of an outpost, not a ship, which I am assuming the captain's rank was reserved for ship's commanders...But I do see your point... [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Your point is dead

RE: [scifinoir2] Re: What does Sci-Fi have against Black people?

2005-10-18 Thread Astromancer
Sci-Fi have against Black people? On one point, I have to say militarily was incorrect...Sisko was a commander, but of an outpost, not a ship, which I am assuming the captain's rank was reserved for ship's commanders...But I do see your point... [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Your point is dead

Re: [scifinoir2] Re: What does Sci-Fi have against Black people?

2005-10-13 Thread KeithBJohnson
. -Original Message- From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2005 15:24 To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: What does Sci-Fi have against Black people? i posted about this during

Re: [scifinoir2] Re: What does Sci-Fi have against Black people?

2005-10-13 Thread KeithBJohnson
Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2005 15:24 To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: What does Sci-Fi have against Black people? i posted about this during Season one of Galactica and did a count of Blacks. I counted about three or four, incuding the comm

Re: [scifinoir2] Re: What does Sci-Fi have against Black people?

2005-10-13 Thread KeithBJohnson
Good point, it often goes with the casting director. Though, I'm sure that *if* Moore wanted to bring more men of color on, he could. I get the impression he's very much involved in casting. I think it's like you said, the age-old problem: they just don't get it. DJ Vibe wrote I doubt he gets

RE: [scifinoir2] Re: What does Sci-Fi have against Black people?

2005-10-11 Thread KeithBJohnson
@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: What does Sci-Fi have against Black people? On one point, I have to say militarily was incorrect...Sisko was a commander, but of an outpost, not a ship, which I am assuming the captain's rank was reserved for ship's commanders...But I do see your point... [EMAIL

Re: [scifinoir2] Re: What does Sci-Fi have against Black people?

2005-10-11 Thread KeithBJohnson
Capoeria is the fighting style Wesley Snipes uses a great deal in the Blade movies. Not purely, of course, but it's an influence. -- Original message -- --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Kelly Wright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A notable exception was Eddie Gordo from

Re: [scifinoir2] Re: What does Sci-Fi have against Black people?

2005-10-10 Thread GWashin891
In a message dated 10/9/05 4:17:28 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I think it is as simple as this: 'We' didn't write it...'We' have very little to do with it...'We' are not part of his world... And there for If I am not part of his world then I do not have to watch it. And tell others

RE: [scifinoir2] Re: What does Sci-Fi have against Black people?

2005-10-10 Thread Keith Johnson
yeah, Enterprise was a huge one. I posted a review of every single episode here, and I can think of maybe one show--two at best--where Mayweather had a significant role. I often stated only half-jokingly that he had less screen time than Archer's dog Porthos! Hoshi--the Asian Comm officer--fared

Re: [scifinoir2] Re: What does Sci-Fi have against Black people?

2005-10-10 Thread KeithBJohnson
Your point is dead-on, which is what I meant. Star Trek was the beacon, starting slowly (a Black woman, no Black men in major roles), then grew with Geordi (whose disability definitely raised eyebrows among Blacks) and Worf, and reaching fruition in Sisko. The series matured in its treatment of

Re: [scifinoir2] Re: What does Sci-Fi have against Black people?

2005-10-10 Thread Astromancer
On one point, I have to say militarily was incorrect...Sisko was a commander, but of an outpost, not a ship, which I am assuming the captain's rank was reserved for ship's commanders...But I do see your point... [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Your point is dead-on, which is what I meant. Star Trek

Re: [scifinoir2] Re: What does Sci-Fi have against Black people?

2005-10-10 Thread Astromancer
That sounds like an opportunity to change things...doesn't it? [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 10/9/05 4:17:28 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I think it is as simple as this: 'We' didn't write it...'We' have very little to do with it...'We' are not part of his world... And

Re: [scifinoir2] Re: What does Sci-Fi have against Black people?

2005-10-10 Thread GWashin891
In a message dated 10/10/05 7:53:29 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: That sounds like an opportunity to change things...doesn't it? Yeup. The million dollar question is how? :) [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Sponsor

RE: [scifinoir2] Re: What does Sci-Fi have against Black people?

2005-10-10 Thread Keith Johnson
10, 2005 19:20 To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: What does Sci-Fi have against Black people? On one point, I have to say militarily was incorrect...Sisko was a commander, but of an outpost, not a ship, which I am assuming the captain's rank was reserved for ship's

Re: [scifinoir2] Re: What does Sci-Fi have against Black people?

2005-10-10 Thread Astromancer
I'll give you an answer when I'm done setting it up... [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 10/10/05 7:53:29 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: That sounds like an opportunity to change things...doesn't it? Yeup. The million dollar question is how? :) [Non-text portions of this

RE: [scifinoir2] Re: What does Sci-Fi have against Black people?

2005-10-09 Thread Keith Johnson
, August 04, 2005 15:24 To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: What does Sci-Fi have against Black people? i posted about this during Season one of Galactica and did a count of Blacks. I counted about three or four, incuding the comm officer and some nameless pilots (I assume

Re: [scifinoir2] Re: What does Sci-Fi have against Black people?

2005-10-09 Thread GWashin891
In a message dated 10/9/05 11:12:42 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: And to repost yet again, I'm still wondering. On the season-ending show where the Battlestar Pegasus is found, Admiral Caine travels to Galactica. As her Raptor doors open, we see that she's accompanied by an impressive group

RE: [scifinoir2] Re: What does Sci-Fi have against Black people?

2005-10-09 Thread Keith Johnson
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, October 09, 2005 13:58 To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: What does Sci-Fi have against Black people? Again. The way Moore treats black males in the Neo BSG series is the reason why I find it hard

RE: [scifinoir2] Re: What does Sci-Fi have against Black people?

2005-10-09 Thread Astromancer
when that was the norm on TV. -Original Message- From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2005 15:24 To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: What does Sci-Fi have against Black people? i

RE: [scifinoir2] Re: What does Sci-Fi have against Black people?

2005-08-06 Thread Keith Johnson
Didn't know of Gordo. There is a new Black character in Soul Calibur 2. Not sure what his powers are... -Original Message- From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kelly Wright Sent: Saturday, August 06, 2005 09:33 To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Subject:

RE: [scifinoir2] Re: What does Sci-Fi have against Black people?

2005-08-05 Thread Keith Johnson
Like many of y'all have said--better than me, I might add--it ultimately boils down to us controlling our own. Between whites that are prejudiced, whites that aren't prejudiced but let market factors shaped by *other* whites influence their decisions, and whites that simply don't get it, we're

Re: [scifinoir2] Re: What does Sci-Fi have against Black people?

2005-08-05 Thread Astromancer
Tiny as this audience is, it has the nerve to be extremely fractured and segmented. - You choice of words seem pretty harsh. How about us being more diversitfied in our tastes? That is simply one more challenge...It means you can keep serving up vanilla if you know that they crave a little

RE: [scifinoir2] Re: What does Sci-Fi have against Black people?

2005-08-05 Thread Keith Johnson
Oh yeah, I'm aware of it. I follow the videogame industry quite closely. I've even posted some articles on it here, such as the new phenomenon where actors, musicians, and atheletes now count starring in games as being as important as getting good endorsement deals. The issue of race is a huge one

Re: [scifinoir2] Re: What does Sci-Fi have against Black people?

2005-08-04 Thread KeithBJohnson
i posted about this during Season one of Galactica and did a count of Blacks. I counted about three or four, incuding the comm officer and some nameless pilots (I assume) used in the background. I then found a lot of Blacks existed afterall: on the prison barge! When Apollo was sent over there