Re: [scifinoir2] FW: NEWS: Teacher disciplined for pregnancy
Title: Message I didn't think you were attacking Adventists, so no worries on that score. We usually agree on these issues. The only thing that sets this one apart for me is probably what I do know about the way the religion is, that is to say, they have consistently been very inflexible with regard to doctrine. In fact, since the 1800s, very little has changed with regard to what the religion allows. I also know that they are not a part of this idiotic religious revival sweeping the nation (allegedly sweeping, since I haven't met too many people who agree, and I live in Bush country). They have always been strong proponents of the separation of church and state. They firmly believe that religion has no place in politics or government. By the way, if you have acomplaint with any church, including mine, feel free to attack away (not that that is what you did in your prior posts, I'm just saying). Don't hold your tongue on my, or anyone eles's for that matter, account. You have a right, and if people don't like what you have to say, then they can challenge it or delete the post! - Original Message - From: Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, May 14, 2005 11:09 AM Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] FW: NEWS: Teacher disciplined for pregnancy Leslee: I think you did not read my post thoroughly.In it, I acknowledged that: 1. My moral litmus test was likely different. 2. I agreed legally 3. That the people knew what they were getting into 4. MOST IMPORTANT - that the story was likely unrelated to what was really bothering me. That stories like this one are becoming an every day occurrence and THAT scares me. Call me crazy, but I do not want to live in the dark ages. 5. What I left out is that insome cases ( not necessarily including but not necessarily excluding excluding the Adventist church) you later find out that some of the most judgmental of the people condemning those who made the mistake/sinned ( how dare they), have been guilty of that same sin, but were better at deception and did not get caught.The frequency of that hypocritical/non-Christian phenomenon is disturbing. To me it sends the message that you are only a sinner worthy of the scarlet letter if you get caught doing the sin, not if you simply commit the sin. Note: I'm not pointing fingers specifically at The Adventist church. My experience and exposure to that religion is too limited for me to do so. Tracey -Original Message-From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Leslee FreemanSent: Saturday, May 14, 2005 1:43 PMTo: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.comSubject: Re: [scifinoir2] FW: NEWS: Teacher disciplined for pregnancy Oh, guys, come on. The teacher had a moral clause. She didn't uphold it. She got fired for it. If she was in disagreement with this, then she was morally wrong for taking the job under false pretenses. I guess I am less disturbed by it because I am familiar with just how fundamental the Adventist church is, and always has been. This is not a new reactionary thing for them, they have been pretty consistent. - Original Message - From: Keith Johnson To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, May 14, 2005 7:18 AM Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] FW: NEWS: Teacher disciplined for pregnancy Tracey, Thanks for saying that, as it summed up me feeling too: Legally "right", morally "wrong" was the school. Private institutions can do what they want, sure, but it's this attitude that allowed Bob Jones University to try to prevent inter-racial couples on their campus. Another thing to watch is how much money and influence goes from public to private institutions were such rules can be applied. It's like the way whites fled the cities when Blacks started moving into their neighborhoods, taking their kids to private schools where they didn't have to worry about little irritants like diversity in education and getting teachers who aren't bigots. We should all be afraid of what this school did, Christian or not, private or not. -Original Message-From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)Sent: Saturday, May 14, 2005 09:18To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.comSubject: RE: [scifinoir2] FW: NEWS: Teacher disciplined for pregnancy Perhaps my moral litmus test isdifferent. I agree legally. These people knew what they were getting into when they were hired. But I have a problem with the policies of these schools in
[scifinoir2] [OT] Timing of Chappelle's Flight Is Bad for Comedy Central
http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-chappelle14may14,0,2559386.story?coll=la-home-business Timing of Comic's Flight Is Bad for Comedy Central Executives had hoped 'the hottest thing' on their network would help launch new programs. His absence leaves them scrambling. By Scott Collins and Matea Gold, Times Staff Writers Late last month, comic Dave Chappelle called his bosses at the Viacom Inc.-owned cable network Comedy Central with some distressing news. He had suddenly decided to quit Chappelle's Show, the enormously popular sketch series that has made him a $50-million star and a household name among young fans of his outrageous spoofs and impersonations. The reasons were murky, and network President Doug Herzog stayed on the line for a long time, working hard to turn his star around. Days later, Chappelle relented and said he'd stay after all, according to two sources familiar with the situation. But then matters unraveled entirely. Chappelle, who failed to report to work April 29, fled to South Africa and mysteriously cut off contact at least temporarily with some of his family members and closest advisors, according to sources inside Comedy Central and close to Chappelle. The following week, the network announced that the third-season premiere of its No. 2 show (after South Park) would be postponed indefinitely. It's crushing on a lot of levels, Herzog said in a phone interview Friday. There's no question about it, he was the hottest thing on the network . It's tough to lose your big power hitter like that. Clearly, Chappelle's disappearing act comes at a bad time for Comedy Central, which has been piling up record ratings and counting on fresh Chappelle episodes to help launch a full slate of new programs this summer. Now, executives can't say when - or even if - Chappelle's Show will return. The 31-year-old Chappelle, like many performers, has been known to reschedule tapings at the last minute and engage in other unpredictable behavior, Herzog said. But his abrupt and unexplained departure left virtually everyone close to the comic baffled. He's never just dropped off the face of the planet like this, Herzog said. Chappelle's publicist, Matt Labov, declined to comment but confirmed certain details for this article. As recently as three years ago, Chappelle was a hardworking if somewhat obscure performer with multiple failed network sitcoms under his belt. But since Chappelle's Show began in 2002, his spirited goofs on such entertainers as actor Samuel L. Jackson and late funk singer Rick James have turned into a major profit machine for Viacom and Comedy Central. The first season of Chappelle has become the bestselling TV series DVD of all time, with nearly 3 million copies sold, according to Viacom-owned distributor Paramount Home Entertainment. The second-season DVD will be released May 24, intended to coincide with the third-season premiere. The sudden postponement of the program forced Herzog and his team to scramble, rescheduling series premieres from comics D.L. Hughley and Carlos Mencia. The network originally hoped that Chappelle's vast popularity could encourage viewers to sample those programs. The network also had sold millions of dollars in advertising tied to the show, although executives say much, if not all, of that will be moved to other programs. But far beyond any question of economic fallout is the mystery of Chappelle himself: how a gifted young performer who had struggled for years to find success suddenly went AWOL just as he seemed poised for his greatest triumph. A landmark deal now in peril guaranteed Chappelle at least $35 million and as much as $50 million if copies of his DVD continued to sell well. The eldest of three children, Chappelle grew up in Washington, D.C., and Ohio, where his late father taught music at Antioch College. He first tried his hand at stand-up comedy at age 14, hitting open-mike nights at Washington comedy clubs, accompanied by his mother, a Unitarian minister. Encouraged by the reaction, he took his act to New York, where his first appearance onstage at the Apollo Theater was greeted with boos. Undaunted, Chappelle moved to New York at age 17 and began to hit the local comedy clubs. Within a few years, television and film deals followed. He co-starred in Buddies, a 1996 midseason ABC sitcom that was quickly canceled. Disney was impressed enough, however, to sign him for a $1-million development contract. David McFadzean, executive producer of Buddies, recalled in an interview this week that Chappelle exhibited no personal problems during the arduous, months-long development and production process. The show was troubled, but not because of David, McFadzean said. He was alarmingly regular for a TV actor. The producers were especially impressed with Chappelle's unusual comic gifts. He had the ability to say controversial things, McFadzean said, but he said them in such a way that he was charming and likable. There was no
[scifinoir2] Re: Genes behind transsexualism possibly found: World Science
[EMAIL PROTECTED] Fascinating stuff! * Genes behind transsexualism possibly found: Some men are convinced they are women trapped in male bodies. Researchers say genes may be to blame. http://www.world-science.net/exclusives/050511_transfrm.htm * Gay men's brains react differently to a male odor, scientists say: The finding was part of an investigation of whether humans respond to pheromones, or sexually arousing scent. http://www.world-science.net/othernews/050509_pheromfrm.htm * New moonlet found lurking between Saturn's rings: The find suggests there may be more moons in other gaps in the rings, researchers say. http://www.world-science.net/othernews/050511_saturnfrm.htm * Super-flares may have torched young Solar System: Scientists have produced an animation showing how they believe the Sun might zapped our infant planetary system with X-ray blasts. http://www.world-science.net/othernews/050511_torchfrm.htm * Science in images: The Sombrero galaxy http://www.world-science.net This is the World Science email newsletter. To cancel your subscription, please reply to this email address with unsubscribe in the subject line. To change the address to which you would like the newsletter sent, please write to this email address and request the change. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Has someone you know been affected by illness or disease? Network for Good is THE place to support health awareness efforts! http://us.click.yahoo.com/rkgkPB/UOnJAA/Zx0JAA/LRMolB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [scifinoir2] Enterprise episode Terra Prime
Somewhere, on some rogue website, I recall spotting a blurb spoiler about "Enterprise" and the final eps that suggested that Weller would be playing Colonel Green. I was all ready for that, figuring how great Green's xenophobic actions would play out against Starfleet's attempts to establish the Federation. One more letdown in a long string of letdowns...Keith Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, I wish I could say I liked the second episode better, but nope. I can't quite put my finger on it, but it just didn't move me. It seemed at once rushed, unengaging, and dull. Somehow Peter Weller's villainous xenophobe failed to resonate, coming off more as an irritant bigot than a threat to galactic peace. Certainly he didn't paint the portrait of a man who'dhoped to be mentioned in the same breath as the infamous Colonel Green. The whole plot device with him taking over the Mars Virtiron Array as a terroristic threat wasn't very exciting either. The sub-standard plot and action made me realize that the focus was shifted to the wrong thing. Here we had an upcoming major peace conference, Terra Prime's threatening to destroy Starfleet Command, yet there was very little coverage of things on Earth, on the reactions of the delegates, media coverage of the impending disaster. Rather than time spent on the posturing Weller and his bald, black racist flunkies, or on sub-standard FX, I'd like to have seen more focus on Earth itself. It would have been nice to see the delegates as they wrestled with the significance of the still-healthy racist element on Earth. I still have issues with the Black racist sidekicks used as an ironic commentary. The one thing that did resonate was the storyline around Elizabeth, Trip and T'Pol's baby. To see him crying at the end, T'Pol's look and anguish, and their holding hands--well, that was powerful. The comment that the delegates wanted to attend her ceremony was a nice touch too. Overall I'd just rate it as an average show that again reminded me of a season one episode. "Excuse me while I whip this out."Cleavon Little , "Blazing Saddles" Do you Yahoo!? Read only the mail you want - Yahoo! Mail SpamGuard. Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
RE: [scifinoir2] Samuel L. Jackson's greatest deaths
Title: Message Jackson doesn't die nearly as much as the great Charleston Heston, who has more melodramatic death scenes than anybody I know of. Remember "Beneath the Planet of the Apes"? Death. "The Omega Man"? Died, and not just died, but if you saw that movie, he died in a fountain, his blood pooled at his feet, arms and legs outstretched, in nothing so much as a Crucifix-like figure. -Original Message-From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kelly WrightSent: Saturday, May 14, 2005 20:27To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.comSubject: [scifinoir2] Samuel L. Jackson's greatest deathsDoesn't it seem like Samuel L. Jackson is always dying in his movies?As we prepare for his final lightsaber battle in ''Star Wars: EpisodeIII,'' we review his best cinematic swan songs.http://www.ew.com/ew/report/0,6115,1060425_1_0_,00.html1) Star Wars: Episode III (2005)THE STIFF Mace Windu, Jedi knightCAUSE OF DEATH We're going to go out on a limb here and guess thatit's death by lightsaber.2) Goodfellas (1990)THE STIFF Stacks Edwards, thief and Mob associateCAUSE OF DEATH: Gunshot3) Jungle Fever (1991)THE STIFF Gator Purify, homeless crackheadCAUSE OF DEATH: Gunshot4) Jurassic Park (1993)THE STIFF Ray Arnold, a technician at the dinosaur preserveCAUSE OF DEATH Velociraptor5) Hard Eight (1996)THE STIFF Jimmy, a Reno casino security guardCAUSE OF DEATH: Gunshot6) 187 (1997)THE STIFF Trevor Garfield, high school science teacherCAUSE OF DEATH: Gunshot7) Jackie Brown (1997)THE STIFF Ordell Robbie, arms dealerCAUSE OF DEATH: Gunshot8) Deep Blue Sea (1999)THE STIFF Russell Franklin, tycoon and adventurerCAUSE OF DEATH: Shark attack9) Basic (2003)THE STIFF Sgt. Nathan West, Army Ranger drill sergeantCAUSE OF DEATH Gunshot, grenade, stabbing depending on whom youbelieve. As viewers learn in one of the plot's twists-upon-twists,there's a reason all these death scenes appear a little far-fetchedand over-the-top.10) Kill Bill Vol. 2 (2004)THE STIFF Rufus, a musicianCAUSE OF DEATH: Gunshot__The Black Prince. The Black Church. A State of Mind.http://www.theworldebon.com Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
RE: [scifinoir2] RE: Scifi on TV
Title: Message
"Two
pretty boys who would've been lost without a geek"? Say on, Martin!
-Original Message-From:
scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Martin PrattSent: Saturday, May 14, 2005 20:52To:
scifinoir2@yahoogroups.comSubject: RE: [scifinoir2] RE: Scifi on
TV
Yep, none other than Rex "You Take My Breath Away" Smith (even after
twenty-plus years, that song's worth a laugh). I won't try to defend Viper. I
just liked it. As for "Stingray", the closest to an ending I remember was an
ep in which his past came back to almost bite him on the can. He almost had to
give up his "favor-for-a-favor" gig, if not for one of his favors being a
Government big-wig who stepped in long enough to let him slip away.
Therewere two more eps before the show ended, if I remember right. Oh,
and "Riptide"! Two pretty boys who would've been LOST without a geek. The way
the world REALLY works.Keith Johnson
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Street Hawk's star was former pop idol and broadway star ("Pirates of
Penzance") Rex Smith, wasn't it? I never got Viper. Seemed kinda low-rent to
me. Stingray was definitely cool. I remember one show when the star was
arrested and printed. His prints were sent off for matching and he kept
telling the arresting officer "You're wasting your time". The officer felt
he had the guy, until the results came back: a fax showing a young Black
man! Never did figure out his story, and how did the show
end?
Gotta tell you, that was another Stephen J. Cannell show, and he had
a long run of good ones, from 21 Jump Street to Riptide to Hunter to (yes,
even) A-Team.
-Original Message-From:
scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Martin PrattSent: Thursday, May 12, 2005
19:47To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.comSubject: RE:
[scifinoir2] RE: Scifi on TV
Anything BUT. Street Hawk didn't do much for me, but Stingray was
even cooler to me than The Equalizer, which I loved. Possibly the idea
that Stingray might have some obscure government connection held some
interest for a budding conspiracy theorist. Viper, I hadevery
epon video, got rid of them only because I began to convert my video
collection to DVD and ran into a little thing called unemployment a few
weeks in.Keith Johnson
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Now what do you have against the story of a man and his car? At
least they got rid of KITT's voice and the cheesy '80s music done by
anyone but the original artists (didn't they? I never watched the Knight
Rider redux series). As for men and their vehicles, did you like Street
Hawk, Stingray, or Viper?
-Original Message-From:
scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Martin PrattSent: Wednesday, May 11, 2005
15:02To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.comSubject: RE:
[scifinoir2] RE: Scifi on TV
That it was. I came to like "Vanishing Son" more than any of the
sci-fi shows. "TekWar" had me for all of a month, and let's not
discuss "Knight Rider" in ANY incarnation. "The story of a car and his
man."Keith Johnson
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I watched Time Trax maybe twice, but never got into it, and I
think it was gone before I got around to trying.Was it part of
theso-called "Action Pack" that came out a few years ago?
Remember that? It was a block of shows that would air
together, including "Vanishing Son" (the martial arts themed show
starring Russell Wong), "Knight Rider: 2000", "Hercules", "TekWar",
"Xena", and maybe a few others. It was shows that I think were from
Universal. At any rate, the Action Pack music would play and they'd
show scenes from all the above shows. Usually it'd air on Saturdays
and Sundays, and there'd be 2 -3 hours of series in the group. Even
after the other shows were all cancelled, Hercules and Xena would
still often be introduced as part of the Action Pack. I
used to love that gimmick even if all the shows weren't that great.
It was just the ability to watch a block of scifi on Saturday
afternoons that I loved...
-Original
Message-From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Martin
PrattSent: Sunday, May 08, 2005 11:09To:
scifinoir2@yahoogroups.comSubject: Re: [scifinoir2] RE:
Scifi on TV
"Hard Time on Planet Earth". How CAN anyone
RE: [scifinoir2] Samuel L. Jackson's greatest deaths
YeahCharlton's great 'DeMille-esque' death scenes...serious ham sanwichesKeith Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jackson doesn't die nearly as much as the great Charleston Heston, who has more melodramatic death scenes than anybody I know of. Remember "Beneath the Planet of the Apes"? Death. "The Omega Man"? Died, and not just died, but if you saw that movie, he died in a fountain, his blood pooled at his feet, arms and legs outstretched, in nothing so much as a Crucifix-like figure. -Original Message-From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kelly WrightSent: Saturday, May 14, 2005 20:27To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.comSubject: [scifinoir2] Samuel L. Jackson's greatest deathsDoesn't it seem like Samuel L. Jackson is always dying in his movies?As we prepare for his final lightsaber battle in ''Star Wars: EpisodeIII,'' we review his best cinematic swan songs.http://www.ew.com/ew/report/0,6115,1060425_1_0_,00.html1) Star Wars: Episode III (2005)THE STIFF Mace Windu, Jedi knightCAUSE OF DEATH We're going to go out on a limb here and guess thatit's death by lightsaber.2) Goodfellas (1990)THE STIFF Stacks Edwards, thief and Mob associateCAUSE OF DEATH: Gunshot3) Jungle Fever (1991)THE STIFF Gator Purify, homeless crackheadCAUSE OF DEATH: Gunshot4) Jurassic Park (1993)THE STIFF Ray Arnold, a technician at the dinosaur preserveCAUSE OF DEATH Velociraptor5) Hard Eight (1996)THE STIFF Jimmy, a Reno casino security guardCAUSE OF DEATH: Gunshot6) 187 (1997)THE STIFF Trevor Garfield, high school science teacherCAUSE OF DEATH: Gunshot7) Jackie Brown (1997)THE STIFF Ordell Robbie, arms dealerCAUSE OF DEATH: Gunshot8) Deep Blue Sea (1999)THE STIFF Russell Franklin, tycoon and adventurerCAUSE OF DEATH: Shark attack9) Basic (2003)THE STIFF Sgt. Nathan West, Army Ranger drill sergeantCAUSE OF DEATH Gunshot, grenade, stabbing depending on whom youbelieve. As viewers learn in one of the plot's twists-upon-twists,there's a reason all these death scenes appear a little far-fetchedand over-the-top.10) Kill Bill Vol. 2 (2004)THE STIFF Rufus, a musicianCAUSE OF DEATH: Gunshot__The Black Prince. The Black Church. A State of Mind.http://www.theworldebon.com Yahoo! Mail Mobile Take Yahoo! Mail with you! Check email on your mobile phone. Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
