[scifinoir2] fun at a con 1
first: do something that has been done before -- but not often -- or not well known. host a party. make sure it has a non smoking room. if you can gt a suite it should be easy. the smoking room will MAYBE be the fun room and the non smoking room might have more long winded people. have good food at the con suite. not just crap. also have crap on hand. chips pretzels root beer -- all that crap you know teevee watcher food. but have something else and make the junk food seem a litle lame and heathy stuff seem totally appetizing. say it is BYO. people will probably not want to drink. then HAVE a bottle of somthing -- not beer but something harder like any vodka -- vodka is somewhat romantic. hide it until it gets reallate and the party thins out. NO PORN. people have to use their imaginations. (save it is what i mean. don't embarass the uptight or inexperienced on purpose.) --(short story intro/plotline) I Like Heinlein For President Posthume-- an evil evil man told a bunch of lies about a guy i know the liar used the lies as a weapon because he is hatefilled and a really really crappy guy for the job he does -- he is a boss, cold and a little slow. he told lies, and he is a great liar. ((a great deciever?) when it backfires on him it wuill be really embarassing for him -- he is proud of his position as a local socialist -- and a boss and emploeyr. when people figure out exactly why he slandered my friend -- when they think about exactly the story he told and why he'd lie LIKE THAT..very bad for him. my friend walks away clean as a whistle... just goes to show you. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- What would our lives be like without music, dance, and theater? Donate or volunteer in the arts today at Network for Good! http://us.click.yahoo.com/pkgkPB/SOnJAA/Zx0JAA/LRMolB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[scifinoir2] Re: Hercules on NBC
this makes me happy. although i liked sorbo -- he christafied a sort of gilgameshy role -- but i am not a girl, so...maybe his acting mattered miore and he looke dstrong enough. but NBC seems to be taking a different tack.. i like that they are dealing with the parts ofthe ledgend that gave sorbo nightmares -- (SAVE MARCUS!!!) but there is a great scene in my fave ep of andromeda: starring sam sorbo -- his underrated wife -- where he as dylan hunt is in bed contemplating what if he ghurt of killed his wife. great compsure and he obviously works a pat as far down as he could. i think his good acting made his hercules sort of palatable given that it is an ancient greek myth. the power of his heart...--- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Keith Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Heard about this one? Sounds a little more serious than Sorbo's outing, as it deals with the aftermath of Hercules having killed his own children. I'll guess I'll have to check it out. My wife already commented that at least they finally got a dark-haired Hercules with real muscles. She could never get with Sorbo due to his brownish hair and slim physique. That muscled, curly-haired dude from the '50s Hercules flicks set the standard to her mind. http://www.nbc.com/nbc/Hercules/ He was the slave that defied the gods. The hero who won the people. The man who became a legend. From Emmy Award winning executive producer Robert Halmi Sr. (The Odyssey, Gulliver's Travels, Merlin) comes this epic tale based on the spectacular exploits of Hercules, the super-strong figure fathered by the supreme Greek god Zeus. The three-hour movie event, filmed amid the breathtaking scenery of New Zealand, follows Hercules who, after killing his three sons, is compelled to redeem himself by performing 12 heroic labors - including slaying the multi-headed Hydra and the dreaded Nemean lion. With groundbreaking special effects, Hercules is the definitive re-telling of the most famous myth of all - the story of a half-god, half-man whose extraordinary feats of strength would elevate him to the status of legend on Earth and immortality in the heavens. Paul Telfer stars as the legendary Greek hero, while Sean Astin portrays Linus, Hercules' music instructor and best friend, while Sobieski plays Deianeira, Hercules' lover. Perkins portrays Hercules' mother, Alcmene, and Dalton stars as the strongman's stepfather, Amphitryon. Emmy and DGA Award winner Roger Young (Bitter Harvest, Murder in Mississippi) directs from a screenplay by Charles Edward Pogue (Dragonheart). Hercules is a production of Hallmark Entertainment. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- What would our lives be like without music, dance, and theater? Donate or volunteer in the arts today at Network for Good! http://us.click.yahoo.com/pkgkPB/SOnJAA/Zx0JAA/LRMolB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [scifinoir2] Star Wars crosses to dark side in grand finale
Tell me did some folk think that a wand was waved? This is a decent to EVIL it has to dark. Give me a break! RS=D --- Keith Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ...some expressing surprise at the darkness of the portrayal of Anakin Skywalker's transformation into Darth Vader. Anyone who would give up a little liberty for more security deserves neither. Ben Franklin...My Fav links: http://www.geocities.com/jagrslc/tv.show.swop.list.htm [My complete TV Show collection for exchange]... http://www.geocities.com/jagrslc [My FF]... http://tv.groups.yahoo.com/group/tv-divx/ [Swop Mart for TV Shows]... http://www.geocities.com/slustufflikethat/First.Ladies.pdf [My labour of Love] Yahoo! Mail Stay connected, organized, and protected. Take the tour: http://tour.mail.yahoo.com/mailtour.html Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- What would our lives be like without music, dance, and theater? Donate or volunteer in the arts today at Network for Good! http://us.click.yahoo.com/pkgkPB/SOnJAA/Zx0JAA/LRMolB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [scifinoir2] SciFiNoir Needs Your Favorite Quotes
So here is by batch. RS=D An eye for an eye will make us all blind. Mohandas Gandhi Memory never recaptures reality. Memory reconstructs. All reconstructions change the original, becoming external frames of reference that inevitably fall short. Mentat Handbook From Frank Herbert's Dune Series For GOD so loved the world he didnt send a committee. Unknown Life is short, art long, opportunity fleeting, experience treacherous, judgment difficult. Hippocrates (460-370 BC) Greek physician Be sincere; be brief; be seated. Franklin Delano Roosevelt - Politician Anyone who would give up a little liberty for more security deserves neither. Ben Franklin All that is gold, does not glitter, All those who wonder, are not lost Magician Gandalf of Middle Earth From the Lord of the Rings by JRR Tolkin Resistance is futile The Borg Collective. From Star Trek you are dust and to dust you shall return. Genesis Chpt. 1 Vs 19 Catholic Bible Never fear the event. Horatio, Lord Nelson Warrior (1801) A man in love has no logic. Unknown Exodus! Movement of Jah people. Send us another Brother Moses! Robert Marley - Reggae Singer Until the philosophy, which holds one race superior and another inferior. Is finally and permanently discredited and abandoned There will be WAR. H. I. M. Haile Selassie I, The Conquering Lion of Judah, Emperor of Ethiopia The more corrupt the state, the more numerous the laws Cornelius Tacitus Roman historian Progress is a slow process. Destruction on the other hand Piter Vitres - Mentant From Dune Saga [Fan Fiction] by Rising Sun For every action, there is an equal and opposite reaction. Sir Issac Newton's Third Law of Motion War! What is it good for? Absolutely nothing. Edwin Starr - Singer A beginning is the time for taking the most delicate care that the balances are correct. Manual of Muad'Dib by the Princess Irulan From Frank Herbert's Dune Series Three may keep a secret if two of them are dead. Unknown Due to budgetary constraints the light at the end of the tunnel has been switched off. Unknown The single biggest problem in communication is the illusion that it has taken place George Bernard Shaw The cloning of humans is on most of the lists of things to worry about from Science, along with behaviour control, genetic engineering, transplanted heads, computer poetry and the unrestrained growth of plastic flowers. Lewis Thomas (1913 - 1993) Govern a family as you would cook a small fish - very gently. Chinese Proverb To put the world in order, we must first put the nation in order; to put the nation in order, we must put the family in order; to put the family in order, we must cultivate our personal life; and to cultivate our personal life, we must first set our heart. Confucius Believe nothing. No matter where you read it, Or who said it, Even if I have said it, Unless it agrees with your own reason And your own common sense. Buddha Better to reign in Hell, than serve in Heavn. Milton It is always disagreeable when a person we consider our inferior likes or loathes the same things we do, thereby becoming our equal. Maxim Gorky - Russian Dramatist Good artists copy, great artists steal. Pablo Picasso As scarce as truth is, the supply has always been in excess of the demand. Josh Billings/Humorist Anytime things appear to be going better, you have overlooked something. Murphys Law Rome did not create a great empire by having meetings, they did it by killing all those who opposed them. Ancient Roman saying If it jams ... force it! If it breaks, it needed replacing. Lowery's Law I never told my own religion nor scrutinized that of another. I never attempted to make a convert, nor wished to change another's creed. I am satisfied that yours must be an excellent religion to have produced a life of such exemplary virtue and correctness. For it is in our lives, and not from our words that our religion must be judged. Thomas Jefferson - Politician The probability of failure is directly proportional to the number and importance of the people watching. Zumwalt's Law God created Arakkis to train the faithful. One cannot go against the word of God. Paul Maud'Dib Coronation Day Taken from Frank Herbert's Dune Series Anyone who would give up a little liberty for more security deserves neither. Ben Franklin...My Fav links: http://www.geocities.com/jagrslc/tv.show.swop.list.htm [My complete TV Show collection for exchange]... http://www.geocities.com/jagrslc [My FF]... http://tv.groups.yahoo.com/group/tv-divx/ [Swop Mart for TV Shows]... http://www.geocities.com/slustufflikethat/First.Ladies.pdf [My labour of Love] __ Do you Yahoo!? Make Yahoo! your home page http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- In low income neighborhoods, 84% do not own computers. At
[scifinoir2] NYTimes.com: Staying What Course?
Title: E-Mail This This page was sent to you by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ugly truths that need to be confronted! OPINION | May 16, 2005 Op-Ed Columnist: Staying What Course? By PAUL KRUGMAN The American military isnt just bogged down in Iraq; its deteriorating under the strain. 1. Class in America: Shadowy Lines That Still Divide 2. Op-Ed Columnist: Liberal Bible-Thumping 3. Op-Ed Columnist: Just How Gay Is the Right? 4. Editorial Observer: The Fine Art of Getting It Down on Paper, Fast 5. Whos Preying on Your Grandparents? Go to Complete List Copyright 2005 The New York Times Company | Privacy Policy Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[scifinoir2] Quote for quote generator
Hi Tracey: This is one of my favorite quotes but couldn't find the book in my bookcases last night. Found it this morning. I especially like this quote because one can see the trouble brewing. Any fool can tell you that a spell used on a mermaid is not gonna work for the daughter of an Elf king. -C "And at last he found in his book a form of service for the wedding of a mermaid that had forsaken the sea, though the good book spoke not of Elfland. And this he said would suffice, for that the mermaids dwelt equally with the elf-folk beyond thought of salvation." Lord Dunsany "The King of Elfland's Daughter." Carole McDonnell"If I've told you about earthly things and you do not believe, how will it be when I tell you about heavenly things?" Let the weak say I'm strong.Let the redeemed of the Lord say so. Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[scifinoir2] Re: SciFiNoir Needs Your Favorite Quotes
Nah, wasn't really suggesting that. Was just kinda thinking aloud. Thinking awrite. Writing aloud. Well you know what I mean. -C --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Tracey de Morsella \(formerly Tracey L. Minor\) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hate to be a pain, but If I have to do the research to include the quote, I will probably not have the time and won't be able to use it. Sounds lazy, but I am trying to give the site a community feel with user contributions and I will stand a better chance of getting it done if I get users to contribute. I've been putting this off for years. If you find the quotes or remember them, I would love to use them. In the meantime, I love the Forbidden Planet quote and can definitely use it. Tracey -Original Message- From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Carole McDonnell Sent: Sunday, May 15, 2005 9:35 PM To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: SciFiNoir Needs Your Favorite Quotes At the end of War of the Worlsds--The Martians had been destroyed by the smallest creatures that God in his wisdom had chosen to place upon the earth. Forgot the specific quote but there was that feel... The final words in Forbidden Planet--We are afterall, not God. There must be something in 2001, space oddysey Will look around. -C Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- In low income neighborhoods, 84% do not own computers. At Network for Good, help bridge the Digital Divide! http://us.click.yahoo.com/S.QlOD/3MnJAA/Zx0JAA/LRMolB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [scifinoir2] Re: SciFiNoir Needs Your Favorite Quotes
Thinking awrite. Writing aloud. I like that. I have never heard of that term, but it is cool. OK great. Let me know if you remember them Tracey. -Original Message- From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Carole McDonnell Sent: Monday, May 16, 2005 9:37 AM To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: SciFiNoir Needs Your Favorite Quotes Nah, wasn't really suggesting that. Was just kinda thinking aloud. Thinking awrite. Writing aloud. Well you know what I mean. -C --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Tracey de Morsella \(formerly Tracey L. Minor\) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hate to be a pain, but If I have to do the research to include the quote, I will probably not have the time and won't be able to use it. Sounds lazy, but I am trying to give the site a community feel with user contributions and I will stand a better chance of getting it done if I get users to contribute. I've been putting this off for years. If you find the quotes or remember them, I would love to use them. In the meantime, I love the Forbidden Planet quote and can definitely use it. Tracey -Original Message- From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Carole McDonnell Sent: Sunday, May 15, 2005 9:35 PM To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: SciFiNoir Needs Your Favorite Quotes At the end of War of the Worlsds--The Martians had been destroyed by the smallest creatures that God in his wisdom had chosen to place upon the earth. Forgot the specific quote but there was that feel... The final words in Forbidden Planet--We are afterall, not God. There must be something in 2001, space oddysey Will look around. -C Yahoo! Groups Links -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.11.10 - Release Date: 5/13/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.11.10 - Release Date: 5/13/2005 Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- In low income neighborhoods, 84% do not own computers. At Network for Good, help bridge the Digital Divide! http://us.click.yahoo.com/S.QlOD/3MnJAA/Zx0JAA/LRMolB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[scifinoir2] Enterprise's final episode
Did anybody watch this? If so, what were your thoughts, comments, and reaction. Yes, I decided to watch the series ending, primarily so I could talk about it. The storyline was ho-hum at best and the Riker/Troi plot weave was an insult. I can see exactly how Jolene Blalock was insulted by it. I am glad this series is finished and hope to not have to see anything more from BB. George Captain The USS Ronald E. McNair (Boston) Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- In low income neighborhoods, 84% do not own computers. At Network for Good, help bridge the Digital Divide! http://us.click.yahoo.com/S.QlOD/3MnJAA/Zx0JAA/LRMolB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [scifinoir2] Star Wars crosses to dark side in grand finale
--- Keith Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: KW: Interesting article which may have already been posted. I found the following excerpt interesting. We know this will be a monster hit, yet even here they worry about the kiddies being left out? So it'll make eleventy-billion dollars instead of thirteeny-million dollars? No wonder it's hard to make a good movie, with people trying to please all demographics. Give me a break Article...some expressing surprise at the darkness of the portrayal of Anakin Skywalker's transformation into Darth Vader. The odd grisly scene means the film received a PG-13 U.S. rating which may dissuade some parents from taking pre-teens, probably the only obstacle to the film becoming a smash hit. This illustrates for me exactly what is wrong with the entertainment industry. This movie is going to be giganticly popular. It's gonna sell boatloads of tickets, and related merchandise. It will generate what I call stupid money. Yet because that figure will be slightly lower because some people may have to miss it, it will be perceived as some how less than successful. It's like that terrible 90's music phemenomenon Hootie and the Blowfish. Leaving aside any disertation on quality or soul, those guys got stuck in this smash hit boat. They produced by any account a mind blowingly financially successful first record, with many times over a million records sold. Their follow up however was deemed by the entertainment industry as a failure because it sold roughly 1/3 to half of what the debut sold. Yet it was double or triple platinum in sales. How is millions of records sold and millions of dollars made a failure? I don't know. But these gutless industry cowards who seem to think they know everything deem it so and thus it is. Fortunately for Lucas, he's in control of his financial and creative destiny and is extremely bottom line focus as far as I can tell. I am sure he'll be satisfied with his stupid money. Bottom line, the entertainment industry is run by a larger than average group morons, yayhoos and visionless, gutless sycophants who all need to be gutted, piked and left on display as warning to all the other tards lining up to lick their boots. As an aside, I think Hootie Y Los Blowfish still make records. Perhaps we could just force all these ego driven stains of dishonour on the cloth of humanity to listen to that crap 24-7 for the next couple of lifetimes. Bosco __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Helps protect you from nasty viruses. http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- In low income neighborhoods, 84% do not own computers. At Network for Good, help bridge the Digital Divide! http://us.click.yahoo.com/S.QlOD/3MnJAA/Zx0JAA/LRMolB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [scifinoir2] Re: SciFiNoir Needs Your Favorite Quotes [confused]
Scifinoir_lit and ScifInoir TV 7 Film ( the old group were partially moderated) Both were targets of porno, sexual enhancement, and dating spam) new members are moderated until I 1: find out they are not spammers and two have time to change their status. The temporary group SciFinoir is not moderated. I forget and spammers have not found it yet. i probably have not switched your moderation status yet on Lit Tracey -Original Message- From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Rising Sun Sent: Monday, May 16, 2005 10:11 AM To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: SciFiNoir Needs Your Favorite Quotes [confused] I'm confused. The request was made at [SciFiNoir Lit] SciFiNoir Needs Your Favorite Quotes. But answers are showing up at [scifinoir2] Re: SciFiNoir Needs Your Favorite Quotes. I've sent to both. Only at [scifinoir2] have any appeared. What do I do? RS=D Anyone who would give up a little liberty for more security deserves neither. Ben Franklin...My Fav links: http://www.geocities.com/jagrslc/tv.show.swop.list.htm [My complete TV Show collection for exchange]... http://www.geocities.com/jagrslc [My FF]... http://tv.groups.yahoo.com/group/tv-divx/ [Swop Mart for TV Shows]... http://www.geocities.com/slustufflikethat/First.Ladies.pdf [My labour of Love] Discover Yahoo! Have fun online with music videos, cool games, IM and more. Check it out! http://discover.yahoo.com/online.html Yahoo! Groups Links -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.11.10 - Release Date: 5/13/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.11.10 - Release Date: 5/13/2005 Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- What would our lives be like without music, dance, and theater? Donate or volunteer in the arts today at Network for Good! http://us.click.yahoo.com/pkgkPB/SOnJAA/Zx0JAA/LRMolB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [scifinoir2] Star Wars crosses to dark side in grand finale
I agree, it's just wild. I've noticed for the last year or so whenever I read yahoo or other sites' stats on weekend box office, they always put in blurbs about how the overall box office is doing. They'll say, "'Monster-in-Law' did well above even studio expectations, yet the overall box office is down 20 percen from this period last year". Soa monster film is somehow diminished by the overall box office being done, and a monster box office could be diminished if, as this article hints, losing money from a certain segment of society reduces its three-day weekend totals or something. Most of the time I come away feeling as if all they worry about--even the journalists--is overall dollars and topping the last record somebody set. Critical and audience praise is secondary. Tracey, got a great quote for you from Bosco: "the entertainment industry is run by a larger thanaverage group morons, yayhoos and visionless, gutless sycophants whoall need to be gutted, piked and left on display as warning to allthe other tards lining up to lick their boots." Bosco wrote: This illustrates for me exactly what is wrong with the entertainmentindustry. This movie is going to be giganticly popular. It's gonnasell boatloads of tickets, and related merchandise. It will generatewhat I call "stupid money." Yet because that figure will be slightlylower because some people may have to miss it, it will be perceivedas some how less than successful.It's like that terrible 90's music phemenomenon "Hootie and theBlowfish." Leaving aside any disertation on quality or soul, thoseguys got stuck in this "smash hit" boat. They produced by any accounta mind blowingly financially successful first record, with many timesover a million records sold. Their follow up however was deemed bythe entertainment industry as a failure because it sold roughly 1/3to half of what the debut sold. Yet it was double or triple platinumin sales. How is millions of records sold and millions of dollarsmade a failure? I don't know. But these gutless industry cowards whoseem to think they know everything deem it so and thus it is.Fortunately for Lucas, he's in control of his financial and creativedestiny and is extremely bottom line focus as far as I can tell. I amsure he'll be satisfied with his "stupid money." Bottom line, the entertainment industry is run by a larger thanaverage group morons, yayhoos and visionless, gutless sycophants whoall need to be gutted, piked and left on display as warning to allthe other tards lining up to lick their boots. As an aside, I thinkHootie Y Los Blowfish still make records. Perhaps we could just forceall these ego driven stains of dishonour on the cloth of humanity tolisten to that crap 24-7 for the next couple of lifetimes.Bosco-- Original message -- --- Keith Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:KW: "Interesting article which may have already been posted. I foundthe following excerpt interesting. We know this will be a monsterhit, yet even here they worry about the kiddies being left out? Soit'll make eleventy-billion dollars instead of thirteeny-milliondollars? No wonder it's hard to make a good movie, with people tryingto please all demographics. Give me a break"Article"...some expressing surprise at the darkness of the portrayalof Anakin Skywalker's transformation into Darth Vader. The odd grislyscene means the film received a PG-13 U.S. rating which may dissuadesome parents from taking pre-teens, probably the only obstacle to thefilm becoming a smash hit." Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
RE: [scifinoir2] Hercules on NBC--Weak!
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Man
this was weak! Mediocre FX, confusing plot, performances that seemed like the
actors were sleepwalking through their roles. The dude who played Hercules had
the musculature but looked way too Caucasian to my tastes (the British accent
didn't help). Is there some law that Greek men can't play Greek characters?
Honestly, I think the last time a Greek dude played a god was back in the OS
Trek episode, "Who Mourns for Adonis?". I heard more British, Kiwi, and American
accents in this thing than I could count. Sean Astin was
wasted as teacher/sidekick Linus, looking rather blank, which worked for
simpleminded Samwise Gamgee, but here makes one wonder if Astin's contemplating
a fading career instead of thinking about his lines. Timoty Dalton must
have grabbed a fat check to play Herc's father, as he had little to do but bring
his trademark piercing eyes and cultured voice to a boring character. Leeli
Sobieski (sp?)got on my nerves playing a wood nymph, with that bronze
Nivea tanning lotion slathered on her and the dopey floating scenes where grunts
were obviously lowering her from a tree on a rope.Shedid a
couple of shots that came periously close to flashing us withher bare
breasts, which I guess was supposed to be daring or titillating, but seemed
contrived.
I'd go
on, but the movie doesn't warrant further criticism.Well, maybe a little
more. The only things that made it of minor note were that the writers
brought in some realism about the characters' motivations and behaviour. For
example, unlike the recent sanitized Hercules series, this treatment pretty much
stated that Zeus raped Hercules' mother after morphing into a likeness of her
husband. And unlike the series, mother and son didn't have a good relationship,
as she spent her entire life trying to do in her son, even going so far as to
purposefully being behind Hercules' murder of his own kids. Mom got started way
before that though. She was the one who put the snakes in Herc's crib, which
were of course strangled by the mighty infant. There were some
scenes with nubile women running through the woods with satyrs, and one scene
where a lady laid on her back on the grass, about to get busy with one of the
goat-like demigods! That was surprising on network TV at 8 pm.Then there
was the Oracle of Delphi who was revealed to be an hermaphrodite (Hercules and
others called him "man-woman").He/she gets blinded in a vicious scene for
accidentally violating a secretceremony devoted to Hera. The lady who
blinded him? Herc's mother. And there was a homosexual thing played
up between Hercules' brother and his cousin, who at the end of the movie were
shown in bed together. But given the overall clumsiness of the rest of the
movie, these attempts at "realism" and a mature theme merely served to highlight
the weakness of the rest of the effort, and thus appeared (perhaps unfairly) as
heavy-handed and falseattempts to be daring.
Frankly, it wasn't as well done or intelligent as the better Hercules and
Xena story arcs. When those shows cut lose with the humour, they were
funny as heck. When they dug deep for drama and played it straight, they could
be downright impressive. Tonight's efffort was nowhere near as
good.
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Keith JohnsonSent: Sunday, May 15, 2005 17:26To:
scifinoir2@yahoogroups.comSubject: [scifinoir2] "Hercules" on
NBC
Heard about this one?
Soundsa little more serious than Sorbo's outing, as it deals with the
aftermath of Hercules having killed his own children.I'll guess I'll have to check it out. My wife
already commented that "at least they finally got a dark-haired Hercules with
real muscles". She could never get with Sorbo due to his brownish hair and
slim physique. That muscled, curly-haired dude from the '50s Hercules flicks
set the standard to her mind.
http://www.nbc.com/nbc/Hercules/
He was the slave that defied the gods. The hero who won
the people. The man who became a legend. From Emmy Award winning executive
producer Robert Halmi Sr. ("The Odyssey," "Gulliver's Travels," "Merlin")
comes this epic tale based on the spectacular exploits of Hercules, the
super-strong figure fathered by the supreme Greek god Zeus.
The three-hour movie event, filmed amid the breathtaking
scenery of New Zealand, follows Hercules who, after killing his three sons, is
compelled to redeem himself by performing 12 heroic labors - including slaying
the multi-headed Hydra and the dreaded Nemean lion.
With groundbreaking special effects, "Hercules" is the
definitive re-telling of the most famous myth of all - the story of a
half-god, half-man whose extraordinary feats of strength would elevate him to
the status of legend on Earth and immortality in the heavens.
Paul Telfer stars as the legendary Greek hero, while Sean
Astin
